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Rev 4:3 contradicts gen 1:1 with proof in images
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Rev 4:3 is still saying that John saw god. Please explain how seeing god means not seeing god.
If there's a physical chair there is a spiritual chair
If u r saying there is a non physical form of "seeing" things, then elaborate
Exactly . A vision from God is only seen by the people that God allows to see it . In the Spirit as John said .
Science says seeing is only a physical sense, so what would the non physical way of seeing be? It comes down 2 what seeing is about in relation to what is to b seen. Seeing is just a form of observation through the mind. Well the only way 2 see without your body would b to see with your own consciousness without being a body. But even most studies show that even if consciousness is non physical u still can't observe anything as non physical consciousness. So what seeing would be is some form of observation that only physical can do. Non physical can't observe or see. It can only create that which does observe and see which is the physical. They're opposites afterall. They have opposite capabilities. One creates that which sees, one is that which sees.
If the non physical is just a symbolic form of physical, then wouldn't there be some things that the non physical can't do that only physical can do?
If the non physical is just a symbolic form of physical, then wouldn't there be some things that the non physical can't do that only physical can do?
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But why does something that isn't seeable when looking at it look like something then? It's a contradiction
The root issue is that the non physical being just a metaphor of physical or imitation is what causes confusion about if the non physical is actually able to be seen by human eyes
U have to understand what imitations r & the limits of them in physics
The non-physical can't be observed. Well then how can it observe things if it can't even b observed. U can't observe something unless u can be observed. That's how physics works
Please post scripture.
If not, then yours is just another opinion, like so much chaff on the summer threshing floor.
You can see images when you read a novel without actually seeing what's being described. We can even accurately predict the future by thinking ahead. We quite literally see it in our minds. We see when we dream.
That's not seeing lol. That's hearing.
The vision transpires in your mind , you are the only one "seeing" it .
One vision I saw I was in a room with 3 other people and they saw nothing but I plainly saw letters on a painting , the letters were in my mind superimposed on the painting .
In the Spirit . A supernatural event from God .
Really? You know, I've heard that there are people who exist that can't actually formulate 3D objects in their minds. Or was it the inability to have an internal dialogue? I can't seem to recall.
Anyways, you're wrong.
That's seeing but that's still seeing physical things. The non physical can't do that because it lacks the components to do it. Once the bible says the non physical created seeing, then it's saying that seeing created seeing. We say seeing things can't create seeing things, so why do we say god can be a seeing things that can create seeing things. A thing can't create its own kind
Internal dialogue has to be heard by the mind for it to exist. Studies show it
If god is his own senses, then he's his own seeing. If he's his seeing, he is the seeing itself. The seeing itself created seeing things (souls). That's a contradiction
There was nothing physical about the letters I saw on the painting . They existed in my mind where God placed them .
Three other people in the room with me thought I was loosing my mind because they saw no letters .