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Rev 4:3 contradicts gen 1:1 with proof in images

Truth_is_powerful729292 said:
No one here other than me has explained why John said his vision was a physical vision but ppl still say it wasn't
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If the Lord wanted you to know, He would of clarified that verse in His word.


Deuteronomy 29:29 “The secret things belong to Yahweh our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may do all the words of this law.
 
electedbyhim said:
If the Lord wanted you to know, He would of clarified that verse in His word.


Deuteronomy 29:29 “The secret things belong to Yahweh our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may do all the words of this law.
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He did clarify it but u didn't realize it
 
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U r giving incoherent concepts that don't match original science or scripture once u argue that the vision of John wasnt physical even though John explicitly said it was physical
 
U have to argue that god didn't make John physically see things in the vision the way humans do when seeing objects irl. But it's completely consistent with the biblical god's character to actually make John physically see physical colors that were god. Out of his own desire for John to better understand what was going to happen, giving John a physical vision would be a good way to do that. John would likely have a harder time to understand what a non physical vision he was having would mean rather than the latter. God wants John to understand things without it being max difficulty. A non physical vision is just max difficulty compared to a physical vision.
 
Truth_is_powerful729292 said:
U r giving incoherent concepts that don't match original science or scripture once u argue that the vision of John wasnt physical even though John explicitly said it was physical
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John explicitly said it was physical
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No, John did not say that.

Revelation 4:3 And He who was sitting was like a jasper stone and a sardius in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, like an emerald in appearance.

And he that sat - There is here no description of the Divine Being, so as to point out any similitude, shape, or dimensions. The description rather aims to point out the surrounding glory and effulgence than the person of the almighty King. See a similar description Num_24:10, etc., and the notes there.
 
Truth_is_powerful729292 said:
U have to argue that god didn't make John physically see things in the vision the way humans do when seeing objects irl. But it's completely consistent with the biblical god's character to actually make John physically see physical colors that were god. Out of his own desire for John to better understand what was going to happen, giving John a physical vision would be a good way to do that. John would likely have a harder time to understand what a non physical vision he was having would mean rather than the latter. God wants John to understand things without it being max difficulty. A non physical vision is just max difficulty compared to a physical vision.
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I found out in the vision I had that letters I saw were as real as anything else I have ever seen .
This difficulty you suggest does not exist for God .
 
Reminder from the moderator .
1.3: Use self control and focus on reconcilliation when discussing differences. Address the issue, not the person. Do not make derogatory personal remarks or you will be removed from the thread.
 
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