Rev 4:3 contradicts gen 1:1 with proof in images

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

If god is his own senses, then he's his own seeing. If he's his seeing, he is the seeing itself. The seeing itself created seeing things (souls). That's a contradiction

god is the seeing itself that created the seeings

 

[Riven]

Internal dialogue has to be heard by the mind for it to exist. Studies show it

I dont "hear" my internal dialogue. You use your ears to hear. You don't hear your thoughts unless you voice them with your mouth. You know your thoughts because they are yours.

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

I dont "hear" my internal dialogue. You use your ears to hear. You don't hear your thoughts unless you voice them with your mouth. You know your thoughts because they are yours.

Hearing doesn't require ears. In fact, the reason for that is that ears aren't the hearing itself, they r just often correlated to hearing.

 

[Riven]

Hearing doesn't require ears. In fact, the reason for that is that ears aren't the hearing itself, they r just often correlated to hearing.

What else is correlated to hearing?

 

[JLB]

I did in that post & in this thread

Please refer me to the post number where you posted the scriptures that pertain to your alleged contradiction.

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

Please refer me to the post number where you posted the scriptures that pertain to your alleged contradiction.

#1 #5

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

What else is correlated to hearing?

All other forms of observation (all the other senses)

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

I dont "hear" my internal dialogue. You use your ears to hear. You don't hear your thoughts unless you voice them with your mouth. You know your thoughts because they are yours.

Hearing isn't your own ears. even if hearing requires ears that doesn't mean it is ears themselves. That's why scientists have long since exposed some animals have been studied as having no ears but can hear

 

[electedbyHim]

Isnt sitting a thing only physical things can do? Let's check physics

So, this verse is not true?

John 1:18a No one has seen God at any time

 

[JLB]

#1 #5

Below is your post number 1.

No scripture here.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1410329135648696/permalink/7661487283866152/?mibextid=Nif5oz

I posted this on Facebook as proof

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

So, this verse is not true?

John 1:18a No one has seen God at any time

Then why does John say he saw god sitting on the throne in his vision?

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

Below is your post number 1.

No scripture here.

You'd have to click on the link. Try post #5

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

Rev 4:3 says god had an appearance that John actually saw.
"He was to resemble a sardine stone"

When u see a resemblance u have to actually be seeing something that has shape, size, and color. the official definition of resemblance determined that. So John didn't just metaphorically observe the personality of god, he must've actually seen a god that was colors too. There's a contingency between physical colors to spiritual personalities that can't be separated in the context of heaven as depicted in the bible.

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

There is no metaphor for physically appearing like something, other than your personality being similar to another thing. Well god definitely looked like something physical in that verse because John actually was physically seeing physical colors of god. The colors he saw he said were god, instead of saying they only represented the personality of god. John never said his vision wasn't a physical vision.

 

[hawkman]

Rev 4:3 says god had an appearance that John actually saw.
"He was to resemble a sardine stone"

When u see a resemblance u have to actually be seeing something that has shape, size, and color. the official definition of resemblance determined that. So John didn't just metaphorically observe the personality of god, he must've actually seen a god that was colors too. There's a contingency between physical colors to spiritual personalities that can't be separated in the context of heaven as depicted in the bible.

Have you ever had a dream and If so what did you "see" ?

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

Have you ever had a dream and If so what did you "see" ?

Physical things are what I saw. U can't see something that isn't physical because something that isn't physical doesn't have size, shape, or color. What makes something physical is that it has those properties. So something non physical wouldn't have those properties since it's the absence of the physical. Non physical isn't the physical, it's just the absence of the physical things like size, color. Heat isn't the cold, it's just the absence of it. I'd suggest looking up physical properties

 

[electedbyHim]

Then why does John say he saw god sitting on the throne in his vision?

You did not answer the question again.

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

You did not answer the question again.

I did. U r resorting to strawmanning everything I say at this point lol

 

[Truth_is_powerful729292]

No one here other than me has explained why John said his vision was a physical vision but ppl still say it wasn't. When John himself admitted it was a physical vision then there's no reason to say it wasn't. U can't physically see something in a physical vision that isn't physical in the vision

 

[electedbyHim]

I did. U r resorting to strawmanning everything I say at this point lol

I see no answer.

Is the Bible lying that no one has seen God at anytime?