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Science Vs. Christianity

Who Me said:
How do you know that there was a 'big bang'?

If God spoke and it was there is no need for a 'big bang'.

Jesus rose from the dead, yet if you ask your doctor, 'Can the dead come to life without outside medical assistence? He will say that it is not possible.'
Yet Jesus physically rose from the dead.
If God can do that can he not create in 6 days a universe etc.
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Because it's the same exact thing when you put your hands together to clap. It makes a noise afterwards. I'm not saying that's how it happened I'm just saying it's a possibility.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
Because it's the same exact thing when you put your hands together to clap. It makes a noise afterwards. I'm not saying that's how it happened I'm just saying it's a possibility.
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Except God says that he spoke and it was. Scientists are seeking an explanation that does not involve God.
 
You know what I give up. It looks like some people are going to still argue with me no matter what I say. :rolleyes So be it then. It isn't worth arguing about it. Everybody is free to believe whatever they want to believe. However, remember, just because something isn't written about in the Bible doesn't mean it didn't happen. :nonono
 
Who Me said:
Except God says that he spoke and it was. Scientists are seeking an explanation that does not involve God.
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I don't know if this is necessarily true. All science can do it provide an explanation of the world and/or universe around us based on what we have learned thus far or based on projected theories, which are deduced from the knowledge we've gained as a species thus far.

Even the title of this thread is deceiving. Why is it Science vs Christianity? They don't have to be at odds. One is man's explanation using man's understanding and the other is God's explanation using God's understanding. I don't see a conflict. I see a difference due to our limited understanding but that is all.
 
WIP said:
I don't know if this is necessarily true. All science can do it provide an explanation of the world and/or universe around us based on what we have learned thus far or based on projected theories, which are deduced from the knowledge we've gained as a species thus far.

Even the title of this thread is deceiving. Why is it Science vs Christianity? They don't have to be at odds. One is man's explanation using man's understanding and the other is God's explanation using God's understanding. I don't see a conflict. I see a difference due to our limited understanding but that is all.
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I really like your answer but it's more like I'm comparing the two of them than putting them up against each other. From the way you sounded before though, I thought that you were one of those people who thought that science and Christianity cannot coexist?
 
Also here's just something else to think about,. if the Bible had the answer to all of life's questions it would be a LOT thicker. Just saying.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
I really like your answer but it's more like I'm comparing the two of them than putting them up against each other. From the way you sounded before though, I thought that you were one of those people who thought that science and Christianity cannot coexist?
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I don't recall ever making the claim they cannot coexist.

What we have to be careful about is confusing scientific theory with scientific fact. They are not the same. A theory by definition is only an educated guess derived from repeated testing and evaluation and based only on evidence, conditions, and circumstances at the time. In other words, theories are accepted explanations that have not yet been proven to be fact.

The Theory of Evolution is one example. It is called a theory because the scientific community generally accepts it as a viable explanation of a phenomena that has been presented with evidence but as yet has never been proven as fact.

On a similar topic, we also must be careful not to confuse evolution with natural selection. These too are two different things.
 
WIP said:
I don't recall ever making the claim they cannot coexist.

What we have to be careful about is confusing scientific theory with scientific fact. They are not the same. A theory by definition is only an educated guess derived from repeated testing and evaluation and based only on evidence, conditions, and circumstances at the time. In other words, theories are accepted explanations that have not yet been proven to be fact.

The Theory of Evolution is one example. It is called a theory because the scientific community generally accepts it as a viable explanation of a phenomena that has been presented with evidence but as yet has never been proven as fact.

On a similar topic, we also must be careful not to confuse evolution with natural selection. These too are two different things.
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I agree, but I'm not really sure what natural selection is.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
I agree, but I'm not really sure what natural selection is.
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In a nutshell, natural selection is when minor mutations develop and is passed along to offspring. It is called natural selection because the minor mutation perhaps gave the mutant a little advantage over others and so was able to mature and procreate to pass along the mutation.

An example might be the color of fur where the new color offers the animal a little better concealment than others of its kind.

In humans, ever notice that those who historically live near the equator are usually darker skinned, thinner, taller, and leaner than those that live further north? It's an adaptation that makes them better suited for the climate. That's an example of natural selection.
 
There are some that believe natural selection can lead to evolution saying that minor mutations over time result in new species. This is where I draw the line because it is only a theory and not proven fact.
 
WIP said:
In a nutshell, natural selection is when minor mutations develop and is passed along to offspring. It is called natural selection because the minor mutation perhaps gave the mutant a little advantage over others and so was able to mature and procreate to pass along the mutation.

An example might be the color of fur where the new color offers the animal a little better concealment than others of its kind.

In humans, ever notice that those who historically live near the equator are usually darker skinned, thinner, taller, and leaner than those that live further north? It's an adaptation that makes them better suited for the climate. That's an example of natural selection.
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Oh. I think I understand. It's adaptation not evolution. However,.. the color of fur generally is due to being man-made from breeding. Unless of course it is a wild animal.
 
HeIsRisen2018 said:
Oh. I think I understand. It's adaptation not evolution. However,.. the color of fur generally is due to being man-made from breeding. Unless of course it is a wild animal.
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No, what you're describing is man manipulating the process. The color adaptation comes naturally and we manipulate the process and interfere with the progression by selective breeding.

And now, we are delving in deeper with gene splicing. We are playing god.
 
WIP said:
There are some that believe natural selection can lead to evolution saying that minor mutations over time result in new species. This is where I draw the line because it is only a theory and not proven fact.
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Still probable though I think.
 
WIP said:
No, what you're describing is man manipulating the process. The color adaptation comes naturally and we manipulate the process and interfere with the progression by selective breeding.

And now, we are delving in deeper with gene splicing. We are playing god.
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So does that mean you have an issue with breeders? Or am I mistaken?
 
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