[_ Old Earth _] Scientists refute evolution, Non-creationist scientists

[Guest]

Well, now you have run up against the perfect example of Bush's core group of supporters. It's people such as blue that support a man who has failed in every single thing he's ever attempted to do. The only requirement to be a core supporter is massive, overwhelming, devoted ignorance. One must not only be ignorant, but one must embrace ignorance for its own sake. One must feel exalted in ones ignorance and choose to present it to all the world as the one true way. Then tack on religion to bolster one's moral high ground and you have a true Bushie; someone who refutes all logic and knowledge, disdains curiosity and eschews any critical thinking.
:smt075

:angel: Please tell us Highlander,IS IGNORANCE REALLY BLISSFUL?
You make it appear that way so often. I don't think it is,but you seem
to be having sooooooo much fun with it .Be a flip flopper if it makes your
little world feel more secure,but it still won't stop prophecy from happening
even if you get your flipper as President. I hope ya'll won't try to rig the
election again this time.

 

[Guest]

Who are you to interpret what is Christian and what isn't? You are not God, and you are not in a position to say that Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian. And you cannot have knowledge without a belief in God? That's kind of funny, because it seems to me that most of the atheists on this message board alone have more knowledge than you do. As for man trying to be his own God, that's not what I believe. I believe man is above God, for man created God.

:D Yeah right! If it doesn't line up with scripture,it is false,amen.
I have not seen even one atheist who appears very smart yet and I
know you all bragg about being smart alot,yet I just haven't encountered
your intelligence here.It is the fool who say there is no God the bible tells
us,and it is 100% right,amen & amen.
Bragg all you like,it still won't make it come to pass.
Rebuke a fool and he will hate you,Rebuke a wise man,and he will love
you! Wise people don't mind being corrected. They become wiser still,
and they appreciate the help,but a fool will hate being corrected because
he thinks he's wise in his own eyes. Rescue an angry man,and you'll have
to do it again,and again.
Brag while you still can because once your life is over,that will be the end
of you and what you thought was knowledge.

 

[Guest]

You don't get to say who is a christian and who isn't because they don't follow your specific belief sect. You have your sect, they have theirs, and you're all a bunch of christians.

8-) Wrong yet again,so wag the donkeys tail!!!
The bible tells us what a real christian is,not the world!
I have no sect what so ever. If what you claim is true,you'd
be included in that and you'd be defined as a christian too
because of your occult belief in evolution,amen.
But like so many other sects,cults,and occults,yours is pagan.
It has nothing to do with the truth or true christianity,yours is
part of the counterfeit church set up by your father,the devil.

 

[Tiger]

Jehovah's Witnesses don't worship an Angel... Ok, they say that Jesus will lead Jehovah's forces in the final battle between good and evil "as an Angel of Death", but they certainly don't worship him as an Angel.

It seems your knowledge of the Jehovah's Witnesses is lacking in this area.

:roll: Thats a flat out lie on your part! My sister is one!!!
They say that Jesus is the arch angel Micheal,and they worship him.

Madam... One would do best to check your sources before accusing people of lying. All I said was they do not worship an Angel, you said they did. An Angel is NOT an ArchAngel, so I told the truth. As they don't worship an Angel, it would appear that you are disseminating false information.

The Bible itself calls Jesus an ArchAngel...

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep [in death] through Jesus God will bring with him. 15 For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]; 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.

The problem is, there can only be ONE ArchAngel. Which makes this verse a real kicker...

Jude 9 But when Mi´cha·el the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: “May Jehovah rebuke you.â€Â

How can those verses be talking about the same entity, unless Jesus is also called Micheal. (the Bible is Gods inerrent word, therefore Jesus must be called Micheal)

They worship Jehovah/God above all else, as you do, and worship Jesus after God, as you do.
By your arguement, that would mean that YOU are not a Christian either...

 

[Guest]

How can those verses be talking about the same entity, unless Jesus is also called Micheal. (the Bible is Gods inerrent word, therefore Jesus must be called Micheal)

They worship Jehovah/God above all else, as you do, and worship Jesus after God, as you do.
By your arguement, that would mean that YOU are not a Christian either...

:D Twisting the scriptures will not get you what you wish for.
An arch Angel is still an Angel. Michael the arch Angel is an angel
of high ranking. That verse you twisted says: And with the voice of
The Arch Angel Michael,not that Jesus was the Angel.
Read in the book of Hebrews about what God has to say about calling
any of the Angel's his only begotten son.
An Arch Angel is an Angel pure and simple,and I don't write my own
bible,yet the JW's do. The JW's also claim that they are the only true
church and that they are the only people on earth who are saved.
They also claim that the JW's were around in the ancient bible times
and that There is no lake of fire,or punishment for sins.
God is my judge,not you,and if you knew what you were talking about
you wouldn't call the Jehovah's Witnesses christians.
The bible says you'll know them by their fruit,and the bible warns against
false religion.If you are smart,where did the name Jehovah come from?
You don't know what the JW's are about,so tell me where the name
Jehovah came from. My sister debates with me regularly about her
religion,so you are wrong to say I am lying,and especially when anyone
can find out about their beliefs just by looking it up,or by just talking to
someone who is in their group.

 

[Guest]

Good bible verses to read concerning the Angel's and The Lord
Jesus Christ are: Hebrews 1:3 through 14

Hebrews 2:16,17,18
Hebrews 2:7
Hebrews 7:2,3
Jesus always existed,but the Angels were created.

 

[Tiger]

:D Twisting the scriptures will not get you what you wish for.

Nor will accusing me of twisting the scriptures...

I have quoted the ONLY parts of the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible that mentions ArchAngels in its entirety. I made no changes to it, so kindly retract your accusation.

An arch Angel is still an Angel.

They have a lot of simalarities, but they are not the same. If you wish to use that arguement, then you would have to accept this statement as it uses the same reasoning... A dolphin is a fish...

That verse you twisted says: And with the voice of
The Arch Angel Michael,not that Jesus was the Angel.

Madam, do not use your version of the Bible to try to prove what a different version says. That is a dishonest tactic.

If you wish to comment about what the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible states, then use that Bible for your references.

An Arch Angel is an Angel pure and simple,and I don't write my own bible,yet the JW's do.

As has every sect of Christianity in existence at this moment.

If you are smart,where did the name Jehovah come from?
You don't know what the JW's are about,so tell me where the name
Jehovah came from.

It is the English translation of the written form of the phonetic representation of the letters used in the Talmud to denote the Judiac God.

The bible says you'll know them by their fruit,and the bible warns against false religion.

Yes, it does... It's a shame that there are no Christian sects that follow the EXACT teachings of Jesus.

Doesn't that make them all false?

Of course, you can argue that there is some allowance for leeway on this, but that then means that you have to allow all the other sects to be Christian, including the Jehovah's Witnesses...

My sister debates with me regularly about her religion,

Considering just how little you listen to what people say on here, I'm not filled with confidence at this point...

so you are wrong to say I am lying,

I did not say that you were lying, as you truely believe you are telling the truth. That isn't stopping you from making erroneous statements. (even when you have been shown that they are in error. What would you say to a student that did that?)

and especially when anyone
can find out about their beliefs just by looking it up,

Then look up the information...

or by just talking to someone who is in their group.

You have the talking part perfected... All you need to do now is work on the listening part.

That appears to be where you have a problem.

 

[Guest]

tiger, You sound like a Jehovah Witness.
If you want to turn this into a JW debate,then
go ahead and start a topic on it.