[_ Old Earth _] Scientists refute evolution, Non-creationist scientists

[Guest]

That link had more to with hidden history than anything else. And since you believe that the earth was created 6000 years ago it isn't relevant.

:smt017 Tell me something,o.k? Do you ever read the material
presented to you?

Apparently he read it and understood it better than you do. Funny that.

:smt024 Well then,if thats true,please read it Syn!!!

 

[keebs]

Seriously blue, you need to read links before you post them. The link you gave says (and this is an exact quote): "the first civilisation dates back no further than 6000 BC". And now, using your belief that God created humans but a mere few days after the earth, that would imply (assuming you've actually read the article and agree with it--and I'm only assuming that because you'd have to be a moron and a hypocrite to post it otherwise) that agree with what B wrote. Why are you judging him?

And notice how your website can't even spell civilization right...wow, reliable resources, once again!

 

[Guest]

Seriously blue, you need to read links before you post them. The link you gave says (and this is an exact quote): "the first civilisation dates back no further than 6000 BC". And now, using your belief that God created humans but a mere few days after the earth, that would imply (assuming you've actually read the article and agree with it--and I'm only assuming that because you'd have to be a moron and a hypocrite to post it otherwise) that agree with what B wrote. Why are you judging him?

And notice how your website can't even spell civilization right...wow, reliable resources, once again!

:smt043 Whatever! You cannot handle the truth from a variety of
sources,and I just proved this about you.
Why would you want to be on a christian forum when you could be
having fun with your own kind? If you are so biased that you cannot
look at any christian material or materials by non-christians who don't
agree with you,then you shouldn't be in any debate at all.
http://www.changinglivesonline.org/evolution.html

 

[keebs]

I don't care whether your sources are Christian or not. I care that they are wrong.

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

That link had more to with hidden history than anything else. And since you believe that the earth was created 6000 years ago it isn't relevant.

:smt017 Tell me something,o.k? Do you ever read the material
presented to you?

Apparently he read it and understood it better than you do. Funny that.

:smt024 Well then,if thats true,please read it Syn!!!

I did, it's bunk.

 

[Guest]

I don't care whether your sources are Christian or not. I care that they are wrong.

:smt018 No Way keebler, you just wish they were wrong and thats
not the same thing.

 

[Guest]

:smt024 Well then,if thats true,please read it Syn!!!

I did, it's bunk.[/quote]

:smt006 Sorry,but your a hardened atheist slash evolutionist who
doesn't want to change. Therefore you cannot be objective,and you
cannot get past your hardened self. Your shell is too thick and hard.
You must want to get past yourself in order to get better,but if you
wish to stay as you are,I pray that God will have mercy on you and
save you anyway.

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

:smt024 Well then,if thats true,please read it Syn!!!

I did, it's bunk.

:smt006 Sorry,but your a hardened atheist slash evolutionist who
doesn't want to change. Therefore you cannot be objective,and you
cannot get past your hardened self. Your shell is too thick and hard.
You must want to get past yourself in order to get better,but if you
wish to stay as you are,I pray that God will have mercy on you and
save you anyway.
[/quote]
Don't make presumptions upon my objectivity. I've read it, it claims there to be a gigantic conspiracy(flag one), amongst the most transparent and self evaluating group in the world who's work depends upon their honesty and intellectual rigor(flag two), that says that they are hiding and covering up evidence that disputes their theories like dogmatic nutcases(flag three).

 

[Guest]

8-) Syn,the reason some people believe it could be part of a
conspiracy is because it's so easy to know that evolution is a hoax.
Anyone who really wanted to study it can,and when they do they
could not possibly believe this garb unless they were not very bright
to start with or they have an agenda.
Far from being a scientific theory of recent origin,evolution was an
established religious belief at the heart of occultism and mysticism
thousands of years before the Greeks gave it "scientific "status.
And the central core of the ancient mystical theory of evolution is the
lie of the serpent to Eve in the garden,the belief that we are all evolving
ever upward to godhood.
Sounding like Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Masonic authority W.L. Wilmhurst in his book,"The Meaning of Masonry" declares:
This- The evolution of man into superman ---was always the purpose
of the ancient mysteries ( occultisms) ........Man,who has sprung from
the earth and developed through the lower kingdoms of nature,to his
present rational state,has yet to complete his evolution by becoming a
god-like being and unifying his conscience with the Omniscient.
The goal of evolution,as portrayed for thousands of years before Darwin,
has always been to journey through endless reincarnations until union with
the Universal Mind,or All,has once again been achieved.
It's not only a false religion,it's occultic.[/b]

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

That just shows me you have no understanding of evolution and have not looked at the sources I provided to you.
If you think evolution preaches some sort of path to the übermench then you are debating a strawman. This is not what I have been defending, nor anyone else on this board.

Evolution has no goal. It has result, that of survival of the species in question.

 

[Guest]

That just shows me you have no understanding of evolution and have not looked at the sources I provided to you.
If you think evolution preaches some sort of path to the übermench then you are debating a strawman. This is not what I have been defending, nor anyone else on this board.

Evolution has no goal. It has result, that of survival of the species in question.

:roll: And this just shows me how little you have studied your
views.It is not about the survival of any species,it's about running
away from the truth of God's word,and man pretending that he can
solve all of man's problems. Having a form of godliness,yet denying
the power of it.
Evolution plays a key role in the occult. Theodore Roszak pointed out
that mystism is "the parent stock from which the theory of biological
evolution springs." Anthropologist Michael Harner reminds us that
"Millennia before Charles Darwin,people in Shamanic cultures were
convinced that humans and animals were related." Evolution, as the
core belief of Hinduism and witchcraft,is at least as old as the theories
of reincarnation and karma,in which it is a key element.

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

That just shows me you have no understanding of evolution and have not looked at the sources I provided to you.
If you think evolution preaches some sort of path to the übermench then you are debating a strawman. This is not what I have been defending, nor anyone else on this board.

Evolution has no goal. It has result, that of survival of the species in question.

:roll: And this just shows me how little you have studied your
views.It is not about the survival of any species,it's about running
away from the truth of God's word,and man pretending that he can
solve all of man's problems. Having a form of godliness,yet denying
the power of it.

Nice evasion, you still haven't read the material.

Evolution plays a key role in the occult. Theodore Roszak pointed out
that mystism is "the parent stock from which the theory of biological
evolution springs." Anthropologist Michael Harner reminds us that
"Millennia before Charles Darwin,people in Shamanic cultures were
convinced that humans and animals were related." Evolution, as the
core belief of Hinduism and witchcraft,is at least as old as the theories
of reincarnation and karma,in which it is a key element.

WHAT?!
Absurd! By your logical all of particle physics is based on Democritean philosophy. The theory of evolution exists separately from these old belief systems because it is based on objective fact. I want you to read that last sentence a few times just so it gets through your skull. The relationship between Darwinian evolution and these ancient religions you make reference to is entirely artificial. Read the link I gave you, so that at the very least you could make statements based on knowledge.

 

[Guest]

:D You are aware Syn,that Darwin was educated in Theology,right?
What makes you think Darwin didn't know evolution had it's beginning
with the ancient pagans and their religions?

 

[keebs]

Darwin was educated in Christian theology, not general theology. There's a difference. And besides, if you had knowledge of the subjects you post about, you would know already that these "ancient pagans" were only discovered to have a wrong theory of what would now be referred to as evolution only recently

 

[Guest]

Darwin was educated in Christian theology, not general theology. There's a difference. And besides, if you had knowledge of the subjects you post about, you would know already that these "ancient pagans" were only discovered to have a wrong theory of what would now be referred to as evolution only recently

8-) Do you know how many false religions out there claim
christianity or a belief in Jesus Christ? The Jehovah's Witnesses
call themselves christians even though they say Jesus is an angel
and the bible forbids the worship of angels. They also claim they
are not pagans,yet they are pagans because of their angel worship
among other things. If you had any knowledge at all,you wouldn't
doubt God. No matter what some groups now call evolution,it's still
the same,and it hasn't changed. Man trying to be his own God is what
it all boils down to. When man tries to be his own God he is saying he
is God. Man cannot be God. Man is limited.

 

[keebs]

Do you know how many false religions out there claim
christianity or a belief in Jesus Christ? The Jehovah's Witnesses
call themselves christians even though they say Jesus is an angel
and the bible forbids the worship of angels. They also claim they
are not pagans,yet they are pagans because of their angel worship
among other things. If you had any knowledge at all,you wouldn't
doubt God. No matter what some groups now call evolution,it's still
the same,and it hasn't changed. Man trying to be his own God is what
it all boils down to. When man tries to be his own God he is saying he
is God. Man cannot be God. Man is limited.

Who are you to interpret what is Christian and what isn't? You are not God, and you are not in a position to say that Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian. And you cannot have knowledge without a belief in God? That's kind of funny, because it seems to me that most of the atheists on this message board alone have more knowledge than you do. As for man trying to be his own God, that's not what I believe. I believe man is above God, for man created God.

 

[Tiger]

The Jehovah's Witnesses
call themselves christians even though they say Jesus is an angel
and the bible forbids the worship of angels. They also claim they
are not pagans,yet they are pagans because of their angel worship
among other things.

Oh dear...

Jehovah's Witnesses don't worship an Angel... Ok, they say that Jesus will lead Jehovah's forces in the final battle between good and evil "as an Angel of Death", but they certainly don't worship him as an Angel.

It seems your knowledge of the Jehovah's Witnesses is lacking in this area.

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

Darwin was educated in Christian theology, not general theology. There's a difference. And besides, if you had knowledge of the subjects you post about, you would know already that these "ancient pagans" were only discovered to have a wrong theory of what would now be referred to as evolution only recently

8-) Do you know how many false religions out there claim
christianity or a belief in Jesus Christ? The Jehovah's Witnesses
call themselves christians even though they say Jesus is an angel
and the bible forbids the worship of angels. They also claim they
are not pagans,yet they are pagans because of their angel worship
among other things. If you had any knowledge at all,you wouldn't
doubt God. No matter what some groups now call evolution,it's still
the same,and it hasn't changed. Man trying to be his own God is what
it all boils down to. When man tries to be his own God he is saying he
is God. Man cannot be God. Man is limited.

Maybe you should just put this in your signature to save the work of putting it under every one of your comments.

You don't get to say who is a christian and who isn't because they don't follow your specific belief sect. You have your sect, they have theirs, and you're all a bunch of christians.

 

[Highlander]

Well, now you have run up against the perfect example of Bush's core group of supporters. It's people such as blue that support a man who has failed in every single thing he's ever attempted to do. The only requirement to be a core supporter is massive, overwhelming, devoted ignorance. One must not only be ignorant, but one must embrace ignorance for its own sake. One must feel exalted in ones ignorance and choose to present it to all the world as the one true way. Then tack on religion to bolster one's moral high ground and you have a true Bushie; someone who refutes all logic and knowledge, disdains curiosity and eschews any critical thinking.
:smt075

 

[Guest]

The Jehovah's Witnesses
call themselves christians even though they say Jesus is an angel
and the bible forbids the worship of angels. They also claim they
are not pagans,yet they are pagans because of their angel worship
among other things.

Oh dear...

Jehovah's Witnesses don't worship an Angel... Ok, they say that Jesus will lead Jehovah's forces in the final battle between good and evil "as an Angel of Death", but they certainly don't worship him as an Angel.

It seems your knowledge of the Jehovah's Witnesses is lacking in this area.

:roll: Thats a flat out lie on your part! My sister is one!!!
They say that Jesus is the arch angel Micheal,and they worship him.