Should Christians take medicine ?

[ronniechoate34]

Should Christians take medicine ?

It depends on what kind of medicine.

 

[follower of Christ]

By the way, you should read some of the history of the church in Korea, where God indeed made the legs of an amputee grow back.

Its always some third world country that can pretty much make up any story it wants and we cant prove anything one way or another, isnt it ;)

I 100% believe that NOTHING is impossible for God and NOTHING is impossible for those who believe in the DONE works of the cross of Jesus Christ.

Uh...dude....the work on the Cross is about SALVATION...not new legs for all ;)

Secondly, what is POSSIBLE for God to do and what God DOES isnt necessarily the same thing.
God CAN just wipe man out entirely again if He wanted to...that doesnt mean He WILL ;)

Its when we have no faith in what the promises say that we get nothing.
Mat 17:20 And he saith unto them, Because of your little faith: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Moved any mountains lately, C ?
Dont you have enough faith to do it ? ;)

Notice that nothing shall be impossible for ..............YOU. Nothing means nothing. God does not need a language lesson to correct Him ! He means NOTHING .

Oddly we never actually SEE much of anything from those who preach this misrepresented view of scripture.
Why is it that NONE of the proponents of this fallacy EVER actually perform anything out of the ordinary, C ?
Any reason you can think of ?

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[follower of Christ]

Should Christians take medicine ?

It depends on what kind of medicine.

Hopefully I wont have to put you on ignore here too...

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[ronniechoate34]

Absolutely. God is redeeming his creation, and whether the insitutions of medecine know it or not, they are part of the process.

I believe that some Christians rejects medecine because they buy into the false dualism between a "bad' fallen material order, and a pure undefiled spiritual realm. They therefore reason that rescue from illness is to be pursued in a strictly "spiritual" mode - prayer, laying on of hands, etc.

Of course, the fundamental premise is mistaken - it may apply in some non-Christian worldviews, but not in Biblical Christianity.

If you were to take the time to read some of the papers published by the people who operate within these institutions of medicine you might change your ideas. This is all about the money for them and of course, the power, and being into sorcery certainly gives them both. Why would I take a medicine like Chantix? People's minds have been severely altered by these medicines. Murders and suicides because of these things I say. Didn't you know this. And not only this I could tell so much more.


Listen. I was addicted to the sorcery of this world and these medicines are included in that. I can't stress to you enough how these medicines are being used to control the population at large. It's the devil's business, please don't call it good. I know medicines save lives and everything, but Jesus will raise you up from the dead so just pray to Him and try to live a clean life, and when it's time you'll be ready. If you find yourself in need of medicine between now and the time you depart then let God direct you to where you need to go and he will carry you through one way or the other.

 

[ronniechoate34]

[quote="follower of Christ":1h4j7j9q]Should Christians take medicine ?

It depends on what kind of medicine.

Hopefully I wont have to put you on ignore here too...

.[/quote:1h4j7j9q]


Why would you even post this? If you are just gonna badger me then please do put me on ignore.

 

[follower of Christ]

Why would you even post this? If you are just gonna badger me then please do put me on ignore.

Thats pretty funny, friend, given the details.

 

[Cornelius]

God said it:............ I believe it.

No....God said a few things that you distorted into promises of new legs for all.
Can you show us one single instance of God giving ANYONE a new leg ?
One documented case at all that we can verify ?

Hey brother, as much as I love you as a brother in the Lord, there is nothing I can do about your unbelief.

blessings
C

 

[follower of Christ]

If you were to take the time to read some of the papers published by the people who operate within these institutions of medicine you might change your ideas. This is all about the money for them and of course, the power, and being into sorcery certainly gives them both. Why would I take a medicine like Chantix? People's minds have been severely altered by these medicines. Murders and suicides because of these things I say. Didn't you know this. And not only this I could tell so much more.

it is irrelevant to the actual issue that companies are in it for money.
Drugs save lives and they make life tolerable for others.
Lets guess, you never taken aspirin, ibuprofen or cough medicine, right ?

Listen. I was addicted to the sorcery of this world and these medicines are included in that.

No friend, they arent.
Some drugs simply have yet to be refined to a point where the benefit exists without the negative effect.
What some of you do is look at the greek word and see that 'pharmaceuticals' is derived from it and play off like medicine is therefore an evil thing.
Sorry but it doesnt work.

I can't stress to you enough how these medicines are being used to control the population at large.

What nonsense.
Taking an Ibuprofen for a headache has nothing to do with control.
It has simply to do with a company finding a treatment for a common ailment and figuring out that we could trade goods and services so that they could continue to operate and I could get rid of my headache.

It's the devil's business, please don't call it good.

Ridiculous assertion.

I know medicines save lives and everything, but Jesus will raise you up from the dead so just pray to Him and try to live a clean life, and when it's time you'll be ready.

So we should deny our child his insulin so they can die and Jesus can raise them up ????

If you find yourself in need of medicine between now and the time you depart then let God direct you to where you need to go and he will carry you through one way or the other.

Sorry friend, Jesus shows otherwise.

When Jesus heard that, He said to them, "Those who are healthy have no need of a physician, but those who are ill.
(Matthew 9:12 EMTV)

Jesus answered and said to them, "Those who are healthy have no need of a physician, but those who are ill.
(Luke 5:31 EMTV)

When Jesus heard it, He said to them, "Those who are healthy have no need of a physician, but those who are ill. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
(Mark 2:17 EMTV)

The medical field IS part of Gods plan for healing the sick, Im afraid.

Huh...well waddayaknow...Luke was a physician

Luke the beloved physician greets you, also Demas.
(Colossians 4:14 EMTV)

 

[follower of Christ]

God said it:............ I believe it.

No....God said a few things that you distorted into promises of new legs for all.
Can you show us one single instance of God giving ANYONE a new leg ?
One documented case at all that we can verify ?

Hey brother, as much as I love you as a brother in the Lord, there is nothing I can do about your unbelief.

blessings
C

Please
Ive been dealing with this bogus doctrine for too many years friend.
*IF* people WERE being healed of missing limbs, friend, the WORLD would be paying attention. We BOTH know it.
The reason it isnt is simply because it ISNT happening.

And as I asked...have YOU moved any mountains >?
If not, why not ?
Is your faith lacking ?

See where this leads ?

 

[Cornelius]

Brother , seldom have I met anybody like you. No gifts of the Holy Spirit, no healing , no faith. What is the gospel you preach if not the gospel of Jesus Christ, who took the curse upon Himself so that you can be free? You love mocking faith, but what do you offer that I can follow. I certainly do not want what you have to offer, that is for sure.

You offer what I had BEFORE I met Christ. You offer nothing to me that I want.

 

[follower of Christ]

Brother , seldom have I met anybody like you.

Sure you have. Most simply arent as vocal.

No gifts of the Holy Spirit, no healing , no faith.

My faith is absolute friend. God has left me no choice but to have that absolute faith in Him.
Unlike you, however, I dont need to see signs and wonders as the vile Jews did to have that concrete faith.
I believe simply because He has said 'I AM'.
I dont require the proof you seem to in order to believe.

What is the gospel you preach if not the gospel of Jesus Christ, who took the curse upon Himself so that you can be free?

Free ?
So you have no master then ?

Being free from sin and death has NOTHING to do with growing new legs.
That is a perversion of the intent of the texts.

You love mocking faith,

I hate having to waste my days correcting godless error, thats for sure.
Its a thankless, mindnumbing job but apparently someone has to do it.

You offer what I had BEFORE I met Christ. You offer nothing to me that I want.

Let me ask you once more.
HAVE YOU moved any mountains, C ?
If not then WHY not ?
Where is this 'faith' you claim ?

 

[destiny]

I wonder what will happen when laws are passed where no man can buy, sell, or trade without the mark. Will those who depend on the medical system allow fear and unbelief to bring about the final death blow to their faith, or will they come out of the worlds systems and trust God completely?

It's a different day now and the things that are coming will leave a crystal clear distinction between the people of God and the world. But even then blind eyes won't see.

 

[Cornelius]

Many mountains have moved in my life through faith. God has used faith in His promises to take many things away that hindered my walk with Him.

But if one day, I meet a real mountain that is in my way of following the Lord, I know He will move it too, because that is His Word to me.Up to now I really have had no need to move any, they are all beautiful to me.

You are promoting a faithless gospel with no benefit to anybody.

 

[follower of Christ]

I wonder what will happen when laws are passed where no man can buy, sell, or trade without the mark. Will those who depend on the medical system allow fear and unbelief to bring about the final death blow to their faith, or will they come out of the worlds systems and trust God completely?

It's a different day now and the things that are coming will leave a crystal clear distinction between the people of God and the world. But even then blind eyes won't see.

huh.
And by the same token I wonder what those who rely on the FOOD system to eat will do when they cant buy and sell down at Walmart. ;) (Im a hunter so I wont starve then, but the rest of you are on your own ;) )

 

[follower of Christ]

Many mountains have moved in my life through faith.

OH brother.
So where are these mountains youve uprooted from the ground and cast into the sea, C ?
In any countries we've actually heard of ?

Now, if youre talking metaphorical 'mountains' only, then youre in no position to judge MY walk, now are you chap, seeing that you have NO clue what 'mountains' my faith may or may not have moved ;)

 

[destiny]

I wonder what will happen when laws are passed where no man can buy, sell, or trade without the mark. Will those who depend on the medical system allow fear and unbelief to bring about the final death blow to their faith, or will they come out of the worlds systems and trust God completely?

It's a different day now and the things that are coming will leave a crystal clear distinction between the people of God and the world. But even then blind eyes won't see.

huh.
And by the same token I wonder what those who rely on the FOOD system to eat will do when they cant buy and sell down at Walmart. ;) (Im a hunter so I wont starve then, but the rest of you are on your own ;) )

Do you believe the Lord can provide for His those who Love Him?

 

[ronniechoate34]

it is irrelevant to the actual issue that companies are in it for money.

The love for money is the root of ALL evil.

Drugs save lives and they make life tolerable for others.
Lets guess, you never taken aspirin, ibuprofen or cough medicine, right ?

Drugs also destroy lives and make life miserable for others. Also that's a very poor guess that you have made there.

No friend, they arent.

Yes fellow, they are.

Some drugs simply have yet to be refined to a point where the benefit exists without the negative effect.

FDA= Fast Death Administration. They don't do testing for squat. They get the results they are looking for trust me.

What some of you do is look at the greek word and see that 'pharmaceuticals' is derived from it and play off like medicine is therefore an evil thing.

Actually I took a close look at the whole industry and I didn't even have to lean in for too close of a look before I could smell what a dung heap it actually is. It's touched my life. I know what's going on with it and it's not good.

Sorry but it doesnt work.

Maybe not for you.

What nonsense.
Taking an Ibuprofen for a headache has nothing to do with control.
It has simply to do with a company finding a treatment for a common ailment and figuring out that we could trade goods and services so that they could continue to operate and I could get rid of my headache.

Ibuprofen is only at the tip of the iceberg.

Ridiculous assertion.

Gee now I am ridiculous. That's funny because I don't feel ridiculed.

 

[follower of Christ]

God has used faith in His promises to take many things away that hindered my walk with Him.

ah...so we ARE just talking metaphorical mountains, then ;)
So you cant really make any claims about MY walk and MY faith here, can you ? Seeing that dont know me from Adam and I dont run around boasting like some do about what happens in my private life ;)

Additionally;
'by His stripes you are 'healed'' was meaning we are spiritually "healed".
It hasnt a thing to do with physical healing.
His death was to give us SPIRITUAL life....

But if one day, I meet a real mountain that is in my way of following the Lord, I know He will move it too, because that is His Word to me.Up to now I really have had no need to move any, they are all beautiful to me.

We'll see ;)

You are promoting a faithless gospel with no benefit to anybody.

Wrong friend.
Im promoting absolute faith that doesnt require signs and wonders like some here push.
True faith doesnt NEED to see signs.
TRUE faith simply believes because He exists.

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[ronniechoate34]

So we should deny our child his insulin so they can die and Jesus can raise them up ????

I never said that. Maybe with faith and prayer God will see fit to regulate your child's insulin and you'll not need to inject him with it anymore in time.

Sorry friend, Jesus shows otherwise.

Actually sin is the sickness that Jesus was referring to. I can show you scriptures to support this. Also like illness sin goes into remission.

Huh...well waddayaknow...Luke was a physician

I know that you must think that I am very unlearned and clueless about the Word of God.

 

[follower of Christ]

The love for money is the root of ALL evil.

Huh....imagine that.
So....uh....when a man doesnt rob a woman but only rapes her...somehow YOU claim that money is the 'root' of that evil as well ?

The actual intent is that money is the root of all KINDS of evil....it isnt the cause of EVERY evil, friend.
Learn some context.