Bible Study Should we keep the Feast Days?

[WalterandDebbie]

It's bring your own. Got it. I never knew we were suppose to have big feast parties.

Every year my Church spends over 100,000 and more to build rides and have all you can eat food for the community and all the churches nearby. We call it Celebration Sunday, and it's not cheap.

We set up tents and give tickets where folks can go get new computers, washer dryers, and even new cars.

I always give my ticket away as it's random to what tent you visit. Orange tent is the new computer, new car tent.

It's all you can eat burgers, brats, ice cream, and anything else you could think of.

it's only once a year though. I am also not hip on the idea of giving all that expensive stuff away as every year arguments and fights break out with the heathens about who is in Line, and I saw that first.

So, how often is this feast? Total estimated cost? and does it have to be on any particular day?

Looking at scriptures, it looks like Thousands of people are suppose to attend this. It's really hard to pull that many people together and get them use to the idea of doing something on a regular bases.



Ya, that is awesome, but your OP is about eating food. I have actually been thinking about a Christian community get together. I think you have a great idea here.

No! The above is not at all of what I'am talking about. But the op, is not about food, it is about: Should we keep the Feast Days? of the Bible Lev. 23, and 1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.

 

[Brother Mike]

No! The above is not at all of what I'am talking about. But the op, is not about food, it is about: Should we keep the Feast Days? of the Bible Lev. 23, and 1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.

Now I am confused. You said should we keep Feast days?

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts. Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
(Lev 23:2-4)

Feast is Translated Festival, large gathering and Convocations is a assembly of a lot of people getting together at a specific time. (Hebrew)

So we need lots of people with food served. I am no rocket scientist, but this looks like a big picnic to me. It's also something I had been thinking about inviting other denominations for a big picnic.

I was kind of hoping you have done this type of thing and would have ideas about cost and how to go about it.

If you done this before, who did you invite and how many showed up for the first one?

 

[Gary]

But let us get back to the 0P, Should we keep the Feast Days?

I don't believe we are required to.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Now I am confused. You said should we keep Feast days?

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts. Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
(Lev 23:2-4)

Feast is Translated Festival, large gathering and Convocations is a assembly of a lot of people getting together at a specific time. (Hebrew)

So we need lots of people with food served. I am no rocket scientist, but this looks like a big picnic to me. It's also something I had been thinking about inviting other denominations for a big picnic.

I was kind of hoping you have done this type of thing and would have ideas about cost and how to go about it.

If you done this before, who did you invite and how many showed up for the first one?

Yes, you have the right scripture, But I believe that your context is about what the world is doing in their time of events, this is not what we have been doing for the past 15 years, I would say.

But as far as the different foods, back in those days in Jesus and The Apostles did not your kind of feast with their appointed times/seasons.

 

[Brother Mike]

Yes, you have the right scripture, But I believe that your context is about what the world is doing in their time of events, this is not what we have been doing for the past 15 years, I would say.

But as far as the different foods, back in those days in Jesus and The Apostles did not your kind of feast with their appointed times/seasons.

I am confused. What type of feast then are you talking about? The one in Lev looked like it was a pretty major event with lots of people.
When I think of Feast, I think of food, and tons of people gathered together, which is how the scripture reads.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I am confused. What type of feast then are you talking about? The one in Lev looked like it was a pretty major event with lots of people.
When I think of Feast, I think of food, and tons of people gathered together, which is how the scripture reads.

But I believe that your context is about what the world is doing in their time of events, this is not what we have been doing for the past 15 years, I would say.

But as far as the different foods, back in those days in Jesus and The Apostles did not your kind of feast with their appointed times/seasons.

The kind of feast that I'am talking about is what I said in times past in this OP: I was talking to Gary in post # 21.

I don't know about how many people were they at that time, but I can find out, about that context in strong's and other readings.

Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 1 Timothy 4:13

 

[Brother Mike]

But I believe that your context is about what the world is doing in their time of events, this is not what we have been doing for the past 15 years, I would say.

But as far as the different foods, back in those days in Jesus and The Apostles did not your kind of feast with their appointed times/seasons.

The kind of feast that I'am talking about is what I said in times past in this OP: I was talking to Gary in post #

I don't know about how many people were they at that time, but I can find out, about that context in strong's and other readings.

Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 1 Timothy 4:13

OK, I assume this is not a type of picnic thing. I thought you were on to a great idea. Scripture tell us not to forsake the coming together of ourselves (Heb 10:25) so having a feast and planned events seemed cool.

Is this more like a SDA type of thing?

 

[WalterandDebbie]

OK, I assume this is not a type of picnic thing. I thought you were on to a great idea. Scripture tell us not to forsake the coming together of ourselves (Heb 10:25) so having a feast and planned events seemed cool.

Is this more like a SDA type of thing?

No, it is not like a SDA type of thing, It is by the keeping of his/Jesus commandments from day 1-7, because the 7 day cycle is from Gen. 2:1-3, John 14:15 http://biblehub.com/john/14-15.htm

 

[Brother Mike]

No, it is not like a SDA type of thing, It is by the keeping of his/Jesus commandments from day 1-7, because the 7 day cycle from John 14:15 http://biblehub.com/john/14-15.htm

Brother, Sister.... Why not say so at the start. I thought it was some get together of believers for a feast so we could fellowship with each other.

All the feast were called "ordinances" of the law. To observe times and days would not apply to us. Thou shalt not steal, does apply to us for convicted under breaking the law, we are guilty of the whole law. That would bring the curse of the law into play which is sickness, poverty and if we don't repent, worse things than that.

If you feel you need to do that, then obey your conscience and do it. Violating your conscience is a bad thing.

What type of preparation does that take to keep?

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Brother, Sister.... Why not say so at the start. I thought it was some get together of believers for a feast so we could fellowship with each other.

All the feast were called "ordinances" of the law. To observe times and days would not apply to us. Thou shalt not steal, does apply to us for convicted under breaking the law, we are guilty of the whole law. That would bring the curse of the law into play which is sickness, poverty and if we don't repent, worse things than that.

If you feel you need to do that, then obey your conscience and do it. Violating your conscience is a bad thing.

What type of preparation does that take to keep?

I don't see any preparation, except for The preparation of the Passover. 1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.

 

[Brother Mike]

I don't see any preparation, except for The preparation of the Passover. 1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.

OK, have at that then. Be blessed.

 

[Obadiah]

I've wondered for a long time now at what point a Christian ceases to be a Christian and has converted to Judaism? It seems when someone says they choose to obey the Jewish law and the celebrations, well if that's what they want to do, that's fine. But when that person says they will "serve the Lord" that way and if another person chooses not to do the same they are not serving the Lord, therefore judging the other Christian as being unwilling to serve God by not obeying the OT law and days... Well, I wonder, is that person really a Christian still, or in reality have the converted to Judaism?

 

[brother Paul]

1 Corinthians 5:7-8
Should we keep the Feast Days? - ? 1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
Our answer is yes! that we should keep the Feast Days and The weekly Sabbaths cycle days also.

Because The Lord knows them that are his people. But the firm foundation of (laid by) God stands, sure and unshaken, bearing this seal (inscription): The Lord knows those who are His, 2 Timothy 2:19.

http://www.remnantofgod.org/yah-feast.htm

So does this mean you guys DO keep the Feast Days (which though no longer binding would still be wonderful)?

 

[brother Paul]

As for me and my house we are going to be a service unto our Lord: If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves

Joshua 24:15

Are you implying that because of some non-Torah-accurate keeping of the 7 feasts, or observing Sabbath (usually in the typical non-Torah modern Sabbaterian way) that this equals "serving the Lord"? I am confused! Are you saying those who do not do this are NOT serving the LORD? please? Just like my last post, clarify for us....misunderstanding leads to too much argument instead of healthy debate or discussion (where brothers and sisters in the Lord agree to disagree in love)

 

[JLB]

Anything that has to do with feasting and great food should be kept.

Especially baby back ribs.

Is it ok to have baby back ribs on a feast day?


JLB

 

[JLB]

Not sure quoting OT is going to get this feast rolling.

:amen

In reading Leviticus 23, one would need to consider this statement from the Lord, concerning His intent for whom all these feast's were intended.

All who are native Israelites shall dwell in booths,

42 You shall dwell in booths for seven days. All who are native Israelites shall dwell in booths,
43 that your generations may know that I made the children of Israel dwell in booths when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.' "
44 So Moses declared to the children of Israel the feasts of the Lord. Leviticus 23:42-44


It is also interesting to note that an uncircumcised male could not participate in the feast's.

For no uncircumcised person shall eat it.

And when a stranger dwells with you and wants to keep the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as a native of the land. For no uncircumcised person shall eat it. Exodus 12:48


I would think if we are going to teach that a person should keep the feast's, then we should instruct them to first become circumcised in the flesh of their foreskin, according to the commandment of the Lord, concerning these feast's.


JLB

 

[Brother Mike]

:amen

In reading Leviticus 23, one would need to consider this statement from the Lord, concerning His intent for whom all these feast's were intended.

All who are native Israelites shall dwell in booths,

42 You shall dwell in booths for seven days. All who are native Israelites shall dwell in booths,
43 that your generations may know that I made the children of Israel dwell in booths when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.' "
44 So Moses declared to the children of Israel the feasts of the Lord. Leviticus 23:42-44


It is also interesting to note that an uncircumcised male could not participate in the feast's.

For no uncircumcised person shall eat it.

And when a stranger dwells with you and wants to keep the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as a native of the land. For no uncircumcised person shall eat it. Exodus 12:48


I would think if we are going to teach that a person should keep the feast's, then we should instruct them to first become circumcised in the flesh of their foreskin, according to the commandment of the Lord, concerning these feast's.


JLB

And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.
(Gen 17:14)

And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.
(Exo 12:48)

Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
(1Co 7:19)

I guess Paul must have been wrong then. You don't even get in the door of these feast if your uncircumcised. Not sure if I like the idea of being stuck in a booth either. I thought this would be more like a open Picnic.

However, it is written, if you want to keep part of the law, YOU MUST KEEP THE WHOLE LAW.

For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
(Gal 5:3-4)

In a booth you go!!!!

 

[JLB]

And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.
(Gen 17:14)

And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.
(Exo 12:48)

Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
(1Co 7:19)

I guess Paul must have been wrong then. You don't even get in the door of these feast if your uncircumcised. Not sure if I like the idea of being stuck in a booth either. I thought this would be more like a open Picnic.

However, it is written, if you want to keep part of the law, YOU MUST KEEP THE WHOLE LAW.

For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
(Gal 5:3-4)

In a booth you go!!!!

So, first we need to get everyone circumcised in the flesh of their foreskin, in order to keep the feast.

It seems like we are getting ahead of ourselves, in compelling people to keep feast's that have not been circumcised in the flesh of their foreskin.

JLB

 

[JLB]

I've wondered for a long time now at what point a Christian ceases to be a Christian and has converted to Judaism? It seems when someone says they choose to obey the Jewish law and the celebrations, well if that's what they want to do, that's fine. But when that person says they will "serve the Lord" that way and if another person chooses not to do the same they are not serving the Lord, therefore judging the other Christian as being unwilling to serve God by not obeying the OT law and days... Well, I wonder, is that person really a Christian still, or in reality have the converted to Judaism?

Obadiah, you have hit the nail on the proverbial head.

If a person considers it a sin, which is a violation of God's commandment, to not keep the feast of Passover, or not eat pork, then they are trying to be "right with God", or justified as the New Testament calls it, by the keeping the law of Moses.



Same goes for physical circumcision.


JLB

 

[Brother Mike]

So, first we need to get everyone circumcised in the flesh of their foreskin, in order to keep the feast.

It seems like we are getting ahead of ourselves, in compelling people to keep feast's that have not been circumcised in the flesh of their foreskin.

JLB

I wonder how Walter and Debbie go about asking people tactfully before inviting folks to these feast. I am not comfortable asking another man if his "Thing" has been chopped on.