Bible Study Should we keep the Feast Days?

[brother Paul]

Amen, and for tabernacles (a shadow of all dwelling IN CHRIST) under the Law, one must be a native Israelite

 

[JLB]

I wonder how Walter and Debbie go about asking people tactfully before inviting folks to these feast. I am not comfortable asking another man if his "Thing" has been chopped on.

That's just it, if we are directed to refer to Leviticus as our source for keeping the feasts, then we must first become circumcised in the foreskin of our flesh, before properly abiding by the commandments concerning the feast's.

Then if we go on to read 1 Corinthians 5, we discover that Paul is not referring to actual leaven [yeast], but is properly typifing leaven as sin, specifically malice and wickedness.

The wickedness is specifically sexual immorality.

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.1 Corinthians 5:8


In Context -

1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles--that a man has his father's wife!
2 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed.
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person.


...not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person.


Not to keep company is the root issue that Paul is writing to them about which is likening "leaven" [wickedness] being mixed together with the people of God.


Has nothing to do with commanding people to keep the literal feast, but rather to purge themselves of sinfulness and wickedness.


JLB

 

[Brother Mike]

That's just it, if we are directed to refer to Leviticus as our source for keeping the feasts, then we must first become circumcised in the foreskin of our flesh, before properly abiding by the commandments concerning the feast's.

Then if we go on to read 1 Corinthians 5, we discover that Paul is not referring to actual leaven [yeast], but is properly typifing leaven as sin, specifically malice and wickedness.

The wickedness is specifically sexual immorality.

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.1 Corinthians 5:8


In Context -

1 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even named among the Gentiles--that a man has his father's wife!
2 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed.
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person.


...not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person.


Not to keep company is the root issue that Paul is writing to them about which is likening "leaven" [wickedness] being mixed together with the people of God.


Has nothing to do with commanding people to keep the literal feast, but rather to purge themselves of sinfulness and wickedness.


JLB

Right, it's pretty clear Paul is not speaking about chowing down on food. Any baby in Christ would see that, and I was a little puzzled the OP used that scripture, but kept quite.

I am not opposed to eating a bunch of food with folks though. I thought Walter and Debbie might have some pre-made cards to invite folks that we could see and come up with our own Feast according to Lev ruling. Also if they have any flyers they hand out to screen off Guys who don't have their "Cough... cough..." chopped off. I am curious on how that is worded.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I wonder how Walter and Debbie go about asking people tactfully before inviting folks to these feast. I am not comfortable asking another man if his "Thing" has been chopped on.

I did not ask anyone to these feast, and about, So, first we need to get everyone circumcised in the flesh of their foreskin, in order to keep the feast. I have not come into this kind of context.

 

[brother Paul]

I did not ask anyone to these feast, and about, So, first we need to get everyone circumcised in the flesh of their foreskin, in order to keep the feast. I have not come into this kind of context.

Actually I do not think you have been clear about what you are asking or saying at all...would you consider clarifying?

Do you "keep the feasts"
Do you "observe the 7th day Sabbath"
Are you suggesting those who do not are not "serving the Lord"

Thanks that would really help. This would make discussion of either of these points possible.

Paul

 

[reba]

Lets try real hard guys to keep this in some what a Bible Study format... admin

 

[ezrider]

No! The above is not at all of what I'am talking about. But the op, is not about food, it is about: Should we keep the Feast Days? of the Bible Lev. 23, and 1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.

I have a few comments I would like to add concerning the keeping of feast days, and especially at this time of year, speaking of Passover in particular, but I would hope that you might answer a few questions first.

What is the old leaven that you are purging? And how do you go about purging it?

And Secondly, I would assume that at this passover season you celebrate the passover in remembrance of Jesus. Can you tell me as briefly as you can, what does passover mean to you as you celebrate it in the remembrance of Jesus? In what way do you honor the Lord in keeping his passover?

 

[tim-from-pa]

Amen, and for tabernacles (a shadow of all dwelling IN CHRIST) under the Law, one must be a native Israelite

As a side note here, that's not what Tabernacles feast fully represents, thus the importance of knowing about them, but carry on anyway.

 

[brother Paul]

As a side note here, that's not what Tabernacles feast fully represents, thus the importance of knowing about them, but carry on anyway.

Of course not "fully"....but certainly the Tabernacle is a type of "God with us"! Christ is referred to as Tabernacling with us in John and called the Tabernacle not made with hands...(God being in Him reconciling the world to Himself....the fullness of the Godhead bodily} so not exclusively but you can see the connect....

 

[ezrider]

Then if we go on to read 1 Corinthians 5, we discover that Paul is not referring to actual leaven [yeast], but is properly typifing leaven as sin, specifically malice and wickedness.

Sin is not the leaven. Sin is already part of the lump that the leaven is added to, which produces the malice and wickedness. The old leaven is the LAW. Many times in the gospels, Jesus refers to the leaven as the doctrine of the Pharisees, who sit in the seat of Moses, who was their law giver.

 

[ezrider]

This question is to anyone. What is the significance of Passover to you that you should want to keep it or even recognized it?

 

[tim-from-pa]

This question is to anyone. What is the significance of Passover to you that you should want to keep it or even recognized it?

You already quoted those verses about the leaven, etc, because of Christ our Passover. "Do this in remembrance of me". So there you have Christ's own words regarding Passover.

Then, Unleavened Bread is putting out the sin from our lives, in which those standards are defined by the law, and putting out all wickedness, as we've been released from the bondage of sin, just as the ancient Israelites were in type released from the bondage of Egypt, a type of sin and bondage. We are not to become entangled with it again.

 

[JLB]

Sin is not the leaven. Sin is already part of the lump that the leaven is added to, which produces the malice and wickedness. The old leaven is the LAW. Many times in the gospels, Jesus refers to the leaven as the doctrine of the Pharisees, who sit in the seat of Moses, who was their law giver.

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. 1 Corinthians 5:8-9


The leaven is used as a metaphor for sin, specifically the wickedness of sexual immorality.

Paul's concern was the sin of sexual immorality, which is the context of his warning, would spread throughout the church there, just exactly like leaven, leavens the whole lump.

Leaven is sin, specifically the wickedness of sexual immorality, as described by Paul in his letter.


JLB

 

[ezrider]

You already quoted those verses about the leaven, etc, because of Christ our Passover. "Do this in remembrance of me". So there you have Christ's own words regarding Passover.

Then, Unleavened Bread is putting out the sin from our lives, in which those standards are defined by the law, and putting out all wickedness, as we've been released from the bondage of sin, just as the ancient Israelites were in type released from the bondage of Egypt, a type of sin and bondage. We are not to become entangled with it again.

Thanks tim-from-pa, I am trying not to make any assumptions about what others believe, so I am asking some questions l first so they can tell me in their own words how Christ is significant in the Passover, and in the way that they remember it. Do they do it in conjunction with the passover of Moses in the land of Egypt, or do they remember it now in a different manner?

 

[ezrider]

The leaven is used as a metaphor for sin,

Leaven is not a metaphor or sin. The Leaven is the acting agent that causes the sin that is already in our flesh by nature to become magnified until we see the sin growing in us. And that leaven is the Law which does magnify the sin in our flesh; it causes us to glory in our sins, whether boasting of our defiance before God, or proclaiming our own self righteousness by overcoming our sin. The leaven of the law also causes us to glory in the sins of another, by the which we use to measure the perfection of others.

 

[ezrider]

WalterandDebbie, this thread was your OP. I had some things that I would sure like to discuss, especially as it relates to Passover. Are you still interested in discussing this topic? If not, then I will take it up in a new thread.