Sign of the Beast

[Vic C.]

Otherwise, capitalism is the most rational (scientifically-proven) economic system, and everyone has a RIGHT to live under a rational (ie capitalist) government.

Capitalism -----> corruption. Actually, most forms eventually can lead to corruption. Though capitalism may be the best we have, not all who live under it prosper. Just look at the seperation of classes happenning right here in the USA. From a global point of view, it's the richest few hundred who eventually have a say in things economic.

Some setup, heh? :o

 

[kerravon]

Otherwise, capitalism is the most rational (scientifically-proven) economic system, and everyone has a RIGHT to live under a rational (ie capitalist) government.

Capitalism -----> corruption. Actually, most forms eventually can lead to corruption. Though capitalism may be the best we have, not all who live under it prosper. Just look at the seperation of classes happenning right here in the USA. From a global point of view, it's the richest few hundred who eventually have a say in things economic.

Some setup, heh? :o

Corruption is not related to capitalism. Corruption happens in government institutions, which aren't capitalist. That's one reason why it modern economics we aim for small government. If you want to see rampant corruption, take a look at what the communist countries used to look like. And there's no "richest few hundred" controlling the economy. You trade with people using your own free will. Government is not involved. As I said - capitalism is NATURAL. The markets run all by themselves. And there's no separation of classes either - wages are spread across the entire spectrum. And at least in Australia, the lowest income you can possibly receive is the unemployment benefit. No-one starves to death in Australia, and even the poorest can afford such luxuries as computers, which weren't even available to the richest of the rich just a few decades ago. Standard of living is extremely high for even the poorest in our countries. No-one dies of smallpox anymore either, another wonderful increase in the standard of living.

 

[Jake99]

I don't know that much about world systems but living in the US is very stressful for most people. Dr Don Colbert claims that 70-90% of all doctor visits in the US are stress related. Judging by the fruit from the tree the US is not the way. They too must change to a system that is more efficient if you ever wish to attain peace and prosperity for all. The systems that got us here are not the ones that will get us there. There meaning, back to the garden paradise we were built to live in. A system that prevents stress and environmental misuse is what I encourage.

 

[Jake99]

And yes I do want to overturn all the markets, starting with the money markets and stock markets and retail and wholesale. Direct distribution, order online, buy from a system not a person. All labor is union labor with international wages paid and used electronically. Get the filthy, heavy, inefficient money out of your hands and stay home more, or go to the beach. I assume that if the lowest level of benefits covers the basics of life that crime and war will decrease dramatically. What was tried before and failed is what todays technology can achieve. If we do not get efficient we will perish in the near future and never find Peace on Earth.

 

[kerravon]

I assume that if the lowest level of benefits covers the basics of life that crime and war will decrease dramatically.

This already exists in Australia. We still have crime. People are naturally greedy and selfish. What is required is a religion that teaches people that you gain respect by donating money to complete strangers. That is what message 666 on 9/11 was. That is what http://www.moatazilla.org is. If this religion is followed it means that people don't feel jealous of the rich. Because even if they were rich, they would be more-or-less obliged by their religion to give their money away to help the poor anyway, which means they're back to where they started.

 

[Jake99]

Currency needs to be removed from mans hands and you need a simple and fair operating system for paying the work force. Get rid of the middlemen and get efficient. And take down your walls or lines on the map that prevent people from having a better life. People die everyday trying to escape to better places to find work or just survive. I stand against border patrols and borders period.

 

[PHIL121]

Otherwise, capitalism is the most rational (scientifically-proven) economic system, and everyone has a RIGHT to live under a rational (ie capitalist) government.

Capitalism -----> corruption. Actually, most forms eventually can lead to corruption. Though capitalism may be the best we have, not all who live under it prosper. Just look at the seperation of classes happenning right here in the USA. From a global point of view, it's the richest few hundred who eventually have a say in things economic.

Some setup, heh? :o

Boy I'll say! :angel:

Capitalism is the dominant economic system because Marx threw the baby out with the bath-water in accepting atheism. He experienced first-hand how the Church had been politicized and thus lost faith in God.

But if you look in Acts 2:44-45 , you'll see the early Church was actually founded on communist principles.

Just some food for thought.

 

[kerravon]

Currency needs to be removed from mans hands and you need a simple and fair operating system for paying the work force. Get rid of the middlemen and get efficient. And take down your walls or lines on the map that prevent people from having a better life. People die everyday trying to escape to better places to find work or just survive. I stand against border patrols and borders period.

The EU is showing how to tear up borders. Countries need to have reached a certain level of wealth before they can integrate. And to reach that level they need a non-corrupt capitalist system. You can't just have 2 billion uneducated Africans turning up in the US. The US has a right to restrict entry to those that are expected to help the US.

 

[Jake99]

Kerravon,

I disagree that you have the right to restrict people with borders and I disagree that you have the right of land ownership. And I have no problem with the people of Africa coming to the US. I suggest we stop gambling and do home schooling and automate banking so we can make room for the less fortunate people in the buildings we do not need which includes the market places. The bible recommends Communism because it is the most efficient use of space and resources. Just because it did not work in the past does not mean it is not what is needed for the future. Your freedom as you call it is very destructive and I don't think you have the right to wreck anything.

 

[kerravon]

Kerravon,

I disagree that you have the right to restrict people with borders and I disagree that you have the right of land ownership. And I have no problem with the people of Africa coming to the US. I suggest we stop gambling and do home schooling and automate banking so we can make room for the less fortunate people in the buildings we do not need which includes the market places. The bible recommends Communism because it is the most efficient use of space and resources. Just because it did not work in the past does not mean it is not what is needed for the future. Your freedom as you call it is very destructive and I don't think you have the right to wreck anything.

So Communism is your "simple system", eh? Capitalism is a NATURAL system. It is the system of freedom. It doesn't require anyone to control it. The free markets are self-rectifying. This is the system that works, and it has emerged triumphant. Communism has already been trialled, for decades, and it simply doesn't work. And swamping the US with billions of uneducated immigrants is equally insane.

What is actually required is for capitalist people to WANT to donate their money to help poor people. THAT is the religion I came up with in message 666 on 9/11 last year. The particular clause of note is:

I RESPECT individuals who donate their own hard-earned money to help those less fortunate than themselves.

Communism is forced charity which takes away your freedom to give out of CHOICE. It destroys your soul.

 

[Jake99]

I want people to build their own houses and contribute to their own needs if they can, but if they cant I say we are obligated to provide as if they are us. This world has never worked together under Communism and capitalism is every man for himself. The bible recommends communism and this is an age when it would work. The traffic jams and wasted fuel should be enough to end Capitalism but you want to wait until it gets 10 times worse.

 

[tzalam2]

Do the words "HALDOL", "PROZAC" and "PSYCHOTIC"
apply here ?

 

[tzalam2]

Are you seeing what he's saying? HElllooooo! READ HIS POSTS CAREFULLY!

You have been led astray since the beginning of time and you claim I am the one to beware of. Everything I have done has been for you and you mock, prosecute and persecute me. I have shown you the way but you were asleep when I did many things that no other man can do.


I spent 10 years redesigning Wonder Bread and Hostess Cake and everything that I simplified and automated worked perfectly.


I legally demolished 5 Boston Ma. area court houses between mid 1998 and late 2001 during the two trials that I defended myself in. I have called your judges liers cheaters and thieves verbally and in writing in courts of law and I have asked for their unconditional surrender in the same fashion. i am way outside the abilities that you have.

He demolished WHAAAAT?? HE DESIGNED WHAAAAT? You've been led astray since WHEN? Do the words MESSIAH COMPLEX ring a bell here?
Everything I have done has been for you and you mock, prosecute and persecute me. I have shown you the way....as he demolished court houses??

 

[Jake99]

I am the man who some say speaks in tongues, because they do not understand or practice what they preach. You have been led astray since the beginning of time and you claim I am the one to beware of. Everything I have done has been for you and you mock, prosecute and persecute me. I have shown you the way but you were asleep when I did many things that no other man can do. And after the 4 decade demonstration of superior performance I stepped forward on Friday Nov, 13th 1998 and challenged your judicial system, when they challenged me. They proved me to be the christ just like the bible said they would, in court. Sick people don't win on the biggest stages in the world on a daily basis without a loss. And sick people don't turn your court houses upside down with a legal defense that blows your best attorneys out of the water. Sick people don't create miracles everywhere they go and carve it in stone without you seeing a thing. I have been on a far higher level of thinking and performance all of my life. Communism is what the bible recommends and just because it did not work in yesterworld does not mean it would not in the new world. Many of the operations that I have redesigned were based on principals of systems that were tried and failed before. Simplify and treat everyone as if they are you and that is the system I can operate to near perfection. I spent 10 years redesigning Wonder Bread and Hostess Cake and everything that I simplified and automated worked perfectly. There were plenty of nay sayers and people in my way at first but not one complaint along the way or in the end. The only problem is that the manpower that I reduced could not find work in a world that leaves so much work undone. That is where I stand against Capitalism, it cannot afford to be fair or do whats right or operate without a fund raiser and a gambling based extremely complicated system. This is the computer and Internet age and that can change everything for the better if you simplify the operating system on this planet.

I legally demolished 5 Boston Ma. area court houses between mid 1998 and late 2001 during the two trials that I defended myself in. I have called your judges liers cheaters and thieves verbally and in writing in courts of law and I have asked for their unconditional surrender in the same fashion. i am way outside the abilities that you have and the proof of that is in what I have been doing for 50 years just as you were told it would be. The man in the bubble with the body armor leaves a residue behind him as he speeds past you like the wind. I highly suggest you look at the residue or puzzle pieces as some call it.

 

[Jake99]

This is a sample of the gauntlet that I went through at the millennium. It is the conclusion of a war that I fought against the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Scan3 is slow to allow expansion of but the rest of the pages operate quickly. When the bow incident which was one of many incidents was over they found my chariot ( 2 dr 97 GMC Jimmy cherry red like new) parked behind me in front of a tomb. The evidence and prophesy demonstrated in this case was that of proving who the real christ is.

 

[kerravon]

I want people to build their own houses and contribute to their own needs if they can, but if they cant I say we are obligated to provide as if they are us. This world has never worked together under Communism and capitalism is every man for himself. The bible recommends communism and this is an age when it would work. The traffic jams and wasted fuel should be enough to end Capitalism but you want to wait until it gets 10 times worse.

No, capitalism is what has managed to get people out of poverty. And within the capitalist framework, we find that the rich donate to the poor, which fits in with their religion. This is the secret formula. Capitalism combined with a religion which touts empathy for strangers.

 

[Jake99]

Kerravon,

I look at the fruit that comes from the tree and your tree is rotten. I see starvation, wars ( military and sales), corruption and disaster in every corner of the globe. I stand against donations and for equal opportunity but the basics of life must be given for free automatically. I wonder if your tune would change if you were born in some distressed place on the planet.

 

[kerravon]

I look at the fruit that comes from the tree and your tree is rotten. I see starvation, wars ( military and sales), corruption and disaster in every corner of the globe. I stand against donations and for equal opportunity but the basics of life must be given for free automatically. I wonder if your tune would change if you were born in some distressed place on the planet.

If I were living in a distressed place on the planet I would want the US military to overthrow my current government and replace it with a rational, humanist and non-subjugating government. I would want to remain a US colony until such time as the local economy and education of fellow citizens had taken effect so that we could manage on our own. In short, I want policies that would take me out of poverty. You on the other hand are doing your best to get the failed system of communism to be spread which will keep people in eternal poverty. The fruit from your tree is rotten. That's probably why you weren't doing a damn thing to ensure the Iraqi people didn't lose their human rights again.

 

[Jake99]

I am totally for human rights and I am totally for efficient systems that provide jobs that make sense. Sales jobs are a waste of manpower and materials now that we have the internet to automate them. And I like standards as in product cost and labor rates. Based on material usage the US is the most inefficient system the world has ever seen and you want to spread it because your pride clouds your mind. Swords to plowshares my friend means you cannot own because if you do you will need an army to defend what you have stolen. Everyone owns everything on this planet and we are all brothers and sisters. Why is your brother not allowed on the land that is his? Why do you prevent him from feeding himself?

 

[kerravon]

I am totally for human rights

Explain why you weren't in the Iraqi blogs desperately trying to figure out why Arabs had wall-to-wall dictators.

and I am totally for efficient systems that provide jobs that make sense. Sales jobs are a waste of manpower and materials now that we have the internet to automate them. And I like standards as in product cost and labor rates. Based on material usage the US is the most inefficient system the world has ever seen and you want to spread it because your pride clouds your mind.

No, I want to spread it because it is the only thing known to work. Feel free to carry out experiments on hippy farms. The capitalist system allows people to choose communism without forcing the rest of the country to abide by absurd social experiments.