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So…about gang stalking…

I dunno 🤷‍♂️

Personally…

I don’t know about organized government agencies doing this at an extreme level to lots of people but…

I don’t think 🤔 one has to be into conspiracy theories to see that sometimes groups of people get together and rip vulnerable people to shreds.

It’s part of what happened to me out in the world 🌎 and now I’m dealing with…

I dunno 🤷

My life in Christ is awesome 😎 and I’m grateful 🥹 that He has brought deliverance to me in this world 🗺️.

My problem is that I’m heckled around here and sometimes it gets intense. People talking about guardians and conservators and places I lived over 20 years ago. I’m carrying on day to day reasonably well but it’s unnerving!

Anyone have experiences? Thoughts 💭?

Thanks 🙏
 
I dunno 🤷‍♂️

Personally…

I don’t know about organized government agencies doing this at an extreme level to lots of people but…

I don’t think 🤔 one has to be into conspiracy theories to see that sometimes groups of people get together and rip vulnerable people to shreds.

It’s part of what happened to me out in the world 🌎 and now I’m dealing with…

I dunno 🤷

My life in Christ is awesome 😎 and I’m grateful 🥹 that He has brought deliverance to me in this world 🗺️.

My problem is that I’m heckled around here and sometimes it gets intense. People talking about guardians and conservators and places I lived over 20 years ago. I’m carrying on day to day reasonably well but it’s unnerving!

Anyone have experiences? Thoughts 💭?

Thanks 🙏

Hey C

Evil is not just individual, but often times it can also be collective. When you are a light to the world, the world will want to put that light out. Sometimes a weekly church service can be just as important to recharge for the week ahead as it is for all the other reasons. Are you going anywhere?

Dave
 
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C, if you're still here.

I know that you're on an island right now, and if you really get into it, you think that people will think you're crazy. Hence your choice of forum. :Agsm The details don't matter anyways.

It's called the cost of Discipleship. We are called to be partakers in Christs suffering. When people give their lives to Jesus Christ in faith, many times these days it's under the banner of a promised health, wealth, and happiness. This isn't what the Bible teaches. When that person then runs head first into the promised persecution, it can be a shock to the system. Even the Apostle Paul says that you will say "what is this strange thing that's happening?". That's how bad it can get. I try to inform people about it all the time, this promised persecution. It's not something that is taught in todays "modern" churches.

Listen. These people who are bothering you, they don't even need to know that you are a Christian. It's not you that they hate, it's Jesus who is inside of you that they hate. Jesus even said that the world will hate us because it hated Him first. That's just a different way of saying it. All these people know is that there is something about you that rubs them the wrong way. That's the light. They want to put it out. The world suppresses the truth, and you represent what they want to suppress. They will go to great extremes to hide from that light, and that usually comes at our expense. It can cost us our money, our reputations, and even our lives. It's really the basis for all persecution of Christians since the beginning. They will take any dirt that they can find, anything small thing and exaggerate it, or just make things up to justify the hatred that they feel inside towards you. Many times they will even convince themselves that they are saving the world, or the country, or the neighborhood, when they bother you. People who you have never met will seem to take great joy in seeing you suffer. It's cold, but it's reality.

And in all this we are called to be blameless. This is the hardest part. I've failed, and have seen others fail. But if you want the results that God is seeking, you must remain blameless as best as you can .

In Proverbs, it says that being kind to a person who is being evil towards us is like pouring hot coals on their head. The reason is obvious. If you give them nothing to point at to justify themselves, their actions, their hatred, then they have to look at themselves. That's the number one thing that they want to suppress. They don't want to see themselves as they are. The idea is that if they have to look at themselves enough, they will eventually get tired of seeing who they really are, and will want to change. It's like an alcoholic bottoming out. The world needs to bottom out in their lies before they will want the truth. Some go down fighting, though. It can get ugly. But that's why we do it.

You're not the first, and you won't be the last. The more Biblical you are, the more alone you're going to feel in this world, and the more that you are isolating yourself. Like I said in the beginning, an island.

There is a book that has been out for a while called "Jesus Freaks". I avoided it for a long time because it sounded like most of the new age garbage. When I finally checked it out, it was just a modern day version of 'Fox's book of Martyrs'. It's basically the same principle as the blues. It consoles you. It's like having a friend who went through the exact same thing. You don't need to explain, he gets it. There's a comfort in that. You might want to check it out.

You also might want to check out "Cost Of Discipleship" by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. I just listened to it again on audio from the library. If you haven't read it, or listed to it, you may want to check it out.

Jesus said this recorded in Luke 14:27. And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.

Hang in there. There's nothing that you're going through that God Himself did not ordain. There's a purpose in it. He's in control and always has been.

Dave
 
My past was dark and ridiculous. What’s happening now is probably at least partly persecution. I’ve been living in the same place for over 5 years now and suddenly people openly taunt me about having me evicted? And people have been saying things on loop 🔂 which is a little bit crazy making and also weirdly satanic now that I think about it.

No arrests in over 10 years no drugs no hospitalizations and…

The junk seems to just get more intense as I become more normal in Christ.

Thanks for your post, Dave...
 
The junk seems to just get more intense as I become more normal in Christ.
This is true more and more and more and more online and in person in almost every location on earth.

As we get more conformed to Christ, the world gets darker and darker and worse and worse. This continues

as written throughout all Scripture , as God's Plan and Purpose in Christ Jesus is blossoming.

Continue with praise to Jesus and Thankfulness always to God as He Protects us until it is time to suffer more.
 
Hatred of the poor is reaching demonic levels in the United States. It’s ridiculous. I’m no longer living in poverty but I’m considered so called poor white trash. Creepy…

People seem to be awfully obsessed with getting money out of my family and putting me into an institution.
 
Hatred of the poor is reaching demonic levels in the United States. It’s ridiculous. I’m no longer living in poverty but I’m considered so called poor white trash. Creepy…

People seem to be awfully obsessed with getting money out of my family and putting me into an institution.

Hey C

That might be the plan for all Christians in this country. Putting us all in institutions for disagreeing with the "tolerant ones". :smlB

Dave
 
Strange fact….

I vote democrat. I’m not super political but I’m all about social programs and environmental protection and worker rights etc. and yet…

One reason I came to see that Christianity doesn’t mix well with modern politics is…

Dealing with left wingers. True story. In some ways some…note some…can be just as authoritarian as the right wing.
 
Hatred of the poor is reaching demonic levels in the United States. It’s ridiculous. I’m no longer living in poverty but I’m considered so called poor white trash. Creepy…

People seem to be awfully obsessed with getting money out of my family and putting me into an institution.
That is standard in the usa. money money money money money money money .............. instead of Godliness.
 
Strange fact….

I vote democrat. I’m not super political but I’m all about social programs and environmental protection and worker rights etc. and yet…

One reason I came to see that Christianity doesn’t mix well with modern politics is…

Dealing with left wingers. True story. In some ways some…note some…can be just as authoritarian as the right wing.
Hey C

Fascism is a liberal ideology. Not many people stop to ask what part of less taxes, smaller government, and more personal responsibility, when taken to the extreme, becomes fascism? It doesn't. It becomes freedom. :thumbsup2

Dave
 
I dunno 🤷‍♂️

We won’t ever have a true free market or a pure version of capitalism. So…the question 🙋‍♂️ is…how is the economy to be regulated? And also what role is the government to play in citizen’s lives?

I lean…I guess progressive in general. Social programs and such. Nothing crazy. Worked in the 1950s.
 
I’m dealing with a ruined social identity. It’s just dawning on me that there is no way to support myself….

I’m disabled and have been for over 20 years now…at age 40…

Because of how the world 🌎 works.

Call it gang stalking or just a group of people deciding to ruin my life…

God’s grace and mercy and love are what separates me from those on the broad road just like any other Christian….

And God’s will to spare me and then redeem me in Christ Jesus is the essence of my testimony…

I’m just rather sad 😔 about some aspects of my situation.

I’m glad I have a high iq estimate now. I’m happy 😃 about being healthy and surprisingly normal in general.

My social identity is so ruined I’m better off with a label 🏷️ of schizophrenia than I would be otherwise. My own sins were bad don’t get me wrong 😑

It’s the deliberate destruction from others…not just the so called helping professions…

That kinda gets to me. But less than it did previously. God’s will is greater than me or anyone else…

I’m just rather humbled by His love…

And I see glimpses of what He saved me from, in Christ.
 
Hey C

I always tell myself. If it gets too bad financially, I'll hop the fence down south and come back with a new identity. "Gringo Suave." :sohappy And then collect all my free benefits. Probably would be better benefits than what I'm going to get.

Dave
 
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