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Spanking The Children

Lewis

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Spanking the children, the Bible says to do so. But todays man says I will put you in jail even if you hit your own child. But I am from the old school if you have to kick your child's butt, then you have to kick your child's butt.
Shows like Dr Phil, look at you in horror if you lift one finger, towards your own children. We are not to abuse our children. But when it comes time to put a strap on their behind. You have to do it.
 
We tell our children to keep their hands to themselves...what is the point of laying your hands on them...what can that possibly teach them other than it is ok? That is NOT the christian way. The lord (or bible) does not tell me to hit my children (even when they look like they have a little devil in them)... the lord tells me to love my children and guide them in the right direction.
I'm sorry but you do not have this christian's support in your theory of the bible telling you to spank...

I don't mind giving my wife a spank from time to time...but that's different :lol:
 

Children need disciplined at various levels throughout their lifetime, with varying methods. Until children recognize what their boundaries are, they will continue to push until they reach the boundary; they will then feel secure in their environment. Some children require a spanking on the behind, some require a firm scolding, others require both. Once a child knows his boundaries, he will operate within the rules.

Liberalism has taught a false doctrine concerning discipline of children, and it has passed into some churches from the world.

Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Proverbs 23:13
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 23:14
Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Proverbs 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

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TRAINING OUR CHILD FOR HIS BETTERMENT

Parents have the additional responsibility of bringing up their children and provide training to them either directly or indirectly.

Proverbs 22:6 - Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

FOLLOWING GOD'S NATURE AS OUR PARENT

We need to be merciful, gracious and plenteous in mercy towards our children. We need not scold our children always. And we need not be angry towards our children forever. Because this is how God's nature is towards us, His children.

Psalms 103:8,9 - The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy. He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.

Hebrews 12:5-11 - And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

Psalms 103:13 - Like as a father pities his children, so the LORD pities them that fear him.

WE ARE URGED NOT TO PROVOKE OUR CHILDREN

Parents are urged not to provoke their children according to the verses below -

Ephesians 6:4 - And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

Colossians 3:21 - Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.[/url]
 
there is a diffrence between a spanking, and a beating.

The problem arose that most parents spanked, and some beat. and to basically stop the beating, they had to ban both. (of course beatings still occur and so do spankings, I know i was spanked up until i was like 15)

there is also the diffrence of a spanking, and of using a belt or a stick.. THAT is abuse.
 
^^that's what I'm saying, anone whoe would use a belt, paddle, strap, or anything of that nature for the sole purpose of inflicting why more pain than the human hand on a child is sick and needs a good beating them selves!
 
So, are we to disregard the Word of God as Solo has pointed out?

*and they wonder why the world is so messed up*

There is a big difference between beating someone with a rod and disciplining them. :-?
 
But everyones thought on discipline is diffrent. Some peopel think Death penalty, Others think Life in prison,a nd others thing a few years. thats with serious things, With a child though, there is groundation, taking awya privleges, bed with no dinner, spankings, manual labor, tons of things. What is right in every situation.

as for the bible, this poitns out a sticky situation.

What parts to follow, Proverbs and the OT, or Ephesians and Colossians
 
I think I would combine Solo's post with vinc's, and then add that addressing the child's heart, and not just the action alone, is very very key in accomplishing them both. I ask my children to give me their hearts everyday, and so I hope they will one day offer them to the Lord everyday on their own, and remain in loving obedience to Him. The Lord bless all of you.
 
A strap on the behind is not going to kill the child. And you are trying to show the child his or her limits. The Bible says to correct our children even if you have to inflict corporal punishment. Doing it man's way don't work. The Bible has already given you instructions on how to discipline your children. I have seen little kids cuss their mothers out in the supermarket and other places.
Because the mother is to afraid to spank little Tommy. When that happens little Tommy is really ruling the mother, he is calling the shots. Some of these kids today would not be in trouble if, they had got their behinds spanked, when they were growing up. And again theses verses below say it all.


Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Proverbs 23:13
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 23:14
Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Proverbs 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.
 
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As I was just telling an old friend, on the bus here, God gave me the tremendous privilege, '77-'79, of singing & playing in a gospel band, 'The Beacons', who specialised in playing @ prisons & youth detention centres in the south of England

As a result, I've often paid attention when the prisons, etc, are in the news

Autologout looms, so I'll just encourage folk to yahoo 'ex-prisoners say that the Bible's system of capital & corporal punishment is a far better corrective deterrent than today's wooly-minded liberal thinking'

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Lewis W. ... where do I begin? "taking a strap to your children will not kill them....it sets the limits" is that how you so put it? Sounds like you need a few limits in your life...
I admire how you used quotes from the bible to back up your statement regarding spanking (or strapping) However I find it very interesting that you used all quotes from Proverbs...written by a man who had more than 300 wives...not exactly a very christian way to live.
So as we are now in the 21st century where we only have one wife and discourage divorce...we also discourage spanking, hitting and strapping our children. Think twice next time you lay a hand on your child...because before you know it they will be old enough to give it back...ohh the vicious cycle...that all begins at home!
One more thing...I am guessing that you beat your dog too. You sound like the controlling type...
 
rkc said:
Lewis W. ... where do I begin? "taking a strap to your children will not kill them....it sets the limits" is that how you so put it? Sounds like you need a few limits in your life...
I admire how you used quotes from the bible to back up your statement regarding spanking (or strapping) However I find it very interesting that you used all quotes from Proverbs...written by a man who had more than 300 wives...not exactly a very christian way to live.
So as we are now in the 21st century where we only have one wife and discourage divorce...we also discourage spanking, hitting and strapping our children. Think twice next time you lay a hand on your child...because before you know it they will be old enough to give it back...ohh the vicious cycle...that all begins at home!
One more thing...I am guessing that you beat your dog too. You sound like the controlling type...
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So what are you telling me ? That God's Word is garbage ? When the Bible clearly says that all Scripture is by the inspiration of God, and the Bible also says that men wrote this stuff as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. So who are you to come in here down playing the Word of God. God's way works not man. So your argument has no merit at all and I mean at all.
 
I guess this is the reason that there are children beaten, locked in dark rooms, caged, molested.....by the insperation of God.
Clearly your to thick to understand posative reinforcement, or maybee your so brainwashed into the archaic methods of abuse.
I can't wait until the tables are turned my friend, hopefully you to won't be spared the rod. After all, a smashed face won't kill you, only set some boundries......who says violence solves nothing?
Beat on fellow christian....beat on!
 
Lewis W said:
rkc said:
Lewis W. ... where do I begin? "taking a strap to your children will not kill them....it sets the limits" is that how you so put it? Sounds like you need a few limits in your life...
I admire how you used quotes from the bible to back up your statement regarding spanking (or strapping) However I find it very interesting that you used all quotes from Proverbs...written by a man who had more than 300 wives...not exactly a very christian way to live.
So as we are now in the 21st century where we only have one wife and discourage divorce...we also discourage spanking, hitting and strapping our children. Think twice next time you lay a hand on your child...because before you know it they will be old enough to give it back...ohh the vicious cycle...that all begins at home!
One more thing...I am guessing that you beat your dog too. You sound like the controlling type...
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So what are you telling me ? That God's Word is garbage ? When the Bible clearly says that all Scripture is by the inspiration of God, and the Bible also says that men wrote this stuff as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. So who are you to come in here down playing the Word of God. God's way works not man. So your argument has no merit at all and I mean at all.
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ALl scripture would be the inspiration of God, if all scripture was included. If you pcik out scripture u don't like, liek Judas, and other texts, your directly disobeying god right there.
 
peace4all what do you know about the Bible, you have not the Holy Ghost, so how can you elaborate ? Don't get me wrong I love you my brother. But how can you tell us about our book ? The Bible says that the things we say is foolishness to the natural man. That being you, and a few others around here.
 
Spanking Tip:

A thin plastic spatula works GREAT. It gives a good sting to get the kids attention, but doesn't leave any marks.
:wink:
 
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