Tasted Death for every Man !

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rogerg said:
Is this the "allows" you mean?

[Tit 3:3 KJV] 3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, [and] hating one another.

[1Co 2:14 KJV] 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

[2Co 4:3-4 KJV] 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

is this "makes"?

[Tit 3:4-7 KJV]
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Answer: The latter of the two has the real friends.
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Correct!
 
Scripture Says said:
Those who follow calvin...

How can God hope that all would come to the truth.... this cant be true if he didnt give all a chance...
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That would be who, not what. So then, you have nothing of substance to back up your claim with, and was
just blowing smoke?
 
How does Christ stand at the door and knock AND if YOU OPEN yourself He will come in...... cant be true because it has to have a clause that states... if your one of the elect that is....
 
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rogerg said:
That would be who, not what. So then, you have nothing of substance to back up your claim with, and was
just blowing smoke?
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Substance? A verse is substance... if God says he hoped all would come to the knowledge of the truth cannot be true since only some can come to it.... in your view
 
Scripture Says said:
Substance? A verse is substance... if God says he hoped all would come to the knowledge of the truth cannot be true since only some can come to it.... in your view
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The "all" are all the Father gave to the Son. You didn't follow the rules set-forth in the Bible for its interpretation.
It's very easy to come to incorrect interpretations if you don't or won't. Those rules of interpretation are
part of the Bible too.

[Jhn 6:37 KJV] 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
 
rogerg said:
The "all" are all the Father gave to the Son. You didn't follow the rules set-forth in the Bible for its interpretation.
It's very easy to come to incorrect interpretations if you don't or won't. Those rules of interpretation are
part of the Bible too.

[Jhn 6:37 KJV] 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
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But you didnt answer the verse..only came.with another one...

Did he die for them also or just believers?
 
brightfame52 said:
Again you give man the credit for salvation, and christ for making it possible, you make man the saviour, thats idolatry friend
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Who will be saved ?
Me.
Does that mean I get the glory for my salvation?
No.
Who will worship me ?
Nobody.
God gets the "credit" and glory for my obedience to Him.
The servant is happy to serve the Master.
 
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If God gave his son so that whoever believes on his name might be saved...

This cant be true.... it should say... that only some can believe on his name and be saved
 
So why tell anyone about Christ since its not dependent on me and their either already going to heaven or not...

If God has already decided on them going (to heaven) then nothing I dont do wont change that...

If Gods has already decided on them going to lake of fire then nothing I do will change that...
 
Scripture Says said:
Jesus died only for those (some)

Heb 2.9 by Gods grace (eph2:8) he might taste death for everyone...

Why does this say Everyone? If thats not true...
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First, and specifically to your question, the "everyone" is exactly the same word as the "all" - as in "all that the Father giveth me". Second, the primary and proper rules of biblical interpretation say that no verse of prophesy is of any private interpretation and that the spiritual must be compared to the spiritual. Any single verse taken on its face can and often does, lead to a misunderstanding of God's intent, and therefore it can be used to support a myriad of drastically different conclusions, but God has included multiple other verses in the Bible that He intended used to triangulate upon His true intent. As much as is possible, they all should be considered.
 
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