The 7th-Day Sabbath?

[WalterandDebbie]

What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath? Isaiah 56:1-8.

 

[farouk]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath? Isaiah 56:1-8.

We're in the New Testament era now. The Lord Jesus is the fulfilment of the law.

 

[George Muller]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath? Isaiah 56:1-8.

Heb 4:1 ¶ Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his
Ga 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
(KJV)

The true sabbath is to cease from ones own works (of law) and enter into the finished work of Christ through the Cross.

 

[Deborah13]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

All I can do is affirm what both [MENTION=41474]farouk[/MENTION] and [MENTION=96503]George Muller[/MENTION] have said.

This is exactly what I believe, too.

Every day in Christ is a Sabbath day, resting in Him.

As far as church goes, we are instructed not to neglect the assembly, fellowshipping with others to the glory of God.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

God's requirement for Sabbath rest is satisfied when we place our faith in Christ. He is the commanded Sabbath Rest for mankind to which the 7th day observe pointed. In Christ we find rest from the futile, never-ending work of self-righteousness, and rest from the taskmaster of sin (illustrated and alluded to two chapters later in Isaiah 58).

When we believe, we enter into God's commanded rest and find relief from the burden and taskmaster of sin. Those who don't enter into and observe Christ, the commanded Sabbath, will be put to death, just as the law requires. Those who believe escape that decree of death, that just decree having been nailed to the cross with Christ who took that penalty in our place.

Since the requirement for Sabbath rest is forever and fully satisfied in Christ the shadow can be laid aside. It is no longer needed to do what faith in Christ now does. Sabbath rest has not been abolished in Christ. It is perfectly fulfilled and satisfied in Christ. That being true, let no one judge you in regard to how, or even if, you keep a literal Mosaic Sabbath.

 

[George Muller]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

God's requirement for Sabbath rest is satisfied when we place our faith in Christ. He is the commanded Sabbath Rest for mankind. In Christ we find rest from the futile work of self-righteousness, and rest from the taskmaster of sin (illustrated and alluded to two chapters later in Isaiah 58).

And since that requirement is forever and fully satisfied in Christ the shadow can be laid aside. It is no longer needed to do what faith in Christ now does. It has not been abolished in Christ. It is perfectly fulfilled and satisfied in Christ. That being true, let no one judge you in regard to how, or even if, you keep a literal Mosaic Sabbath.

Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Amen!

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

I am continually amazed at the wisdom of God and how a law 'passes away', and yet is perfectly fulfilled at the same time in Christ.

Foolishness to the wise and learned man of the world, but the wisdom and power of God to those who believe.

I second your 'Amen'.

 

[SeekHisFace]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

But how do we explain this? I looked up "rest" (Greek) in each one of these verses and there is only one that is different--and taken from a Hebrew word....and that is in verse 9.

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.


Verses 1-8

G2663
κατάπαυσις
katapausis
kat-ap'-ow-sis
From G2664; reposing down, that is, (by Hebraism) abode: - rest.

G2664
καταπαύω
katapauō
kat-ap-ow'-o
From G2596 and G3973; to settle down, that is, (literally) to colonize, or (figuratively) to (cause to) desist: - cease, (give) rest (-rain).


Now for verse 9

Heb 4:9 There remainethG620 thereforeG686 a restG4520 to theG3588 peopleG2992 of God.G2316



G4520
σαββατισμός
sabbatismos
sab-bat-is-mos'
From a derivative of G4521; a “sabbatismâ€, that is, (figuratively) the repose of Christianity (as a type of heaven): - rest.

G4521
σάββατον
sabbaton
sab'-bat-on
Of Hebrew origin [H7676]; the Sabbath (that is, Shabbath), or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension a se'nnight, that is, the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications: - sabbath (day), week.

H7676
שׁבּת
shabbâth
shab-bawth'
Intensive from H7673; intermission, that is, (specifically) the Sabbath: - (+ every) sabbath.

H7673
שׁבת
shâbath
shaw-bath'
A primitive root; to repose, that is, desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causatively, figuratively or specifically): - (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep (sabbath), suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away

 

[George Muller]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

Not sure of the point, but it is very interesting to see that this very word that represents the "sabbath" is translated as "rest"

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart

One might also understand that this rest comes through faith in His Word?

 

[Elijah674]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

All I can do is affirm what both [MENTION=41474]farouk[/MENTION] and [MENTION=96503]George Muller[/MENTION] have said.

This is exactly what I believe, too.

Every day in Christ is a Sabbath day, resting in Him.

As far as church goes, we are instructed not to neglect the assembly, fellowshipping with others to the glory of God.

That is interesting, even for the livestock needing a rest? ;)

--Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath? Isaiah 56:1-8.

Hi!
God has said that He never changes! Mal. 3:6
And God Christ say's the same thing! ETERNALLY! Heb. 13:8

And what do we see?? A LIAR from the start saying... 'O yes he does!' Gen. 3:4

--Elijah

 

[Deborah13]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

All I can do is affirm what both [MENTION=41474]farouk[/MENTION] and [MENTION=96503]George Muller[/MENTION] have said.

This is exactly what I believe, too.

Every day in Christ is a Sabbath day, resting in Him.

As far as church goes, we are instructed not to neglect the assembly, fellowshipping with others to the glory of God.

That is interesting, even for the livestock needing a rest? ;)

--Elijah

lol, hadn't ever thought of it that way.

 

[Elijah674]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

God's requirement for Sabbath rest is satisfied when we place our faith in Christ. He is the commanded Sabbath Rest for mankind to which the 7th day observe pointed. In Christ we find rest from the futile, never-ending work of self-righteousness, and rest from the taskmaster of sin (illustrated and alluded to two chapters later in Isaiah 58).

When we believe, we enter into God's commanded rest and find relief from the burden and taskmaster of sin. Those who don't enter into and observe Christ, the commanded Sabbath, will be put to death, just as the law requires. Those who believe escape that decree of death, that just decree having been nailed to the cross with Christ who took that penalty in our place.

Since the requirement for Sabbath rest is forever and fully satisfied in Christ the shadow can be laid aside. It is no longer needed to do what faith in Christ now does. Sabbath rest has not been abolished in Christ. It is perfectly fulfilled and satisfied in Christ. That being true, let no one judge you in regard to how, or even if, you keep a literal Mosaic Sabbath.

Go tell that to the ones of Deut. 32!

And just forget Ecc. 12:13-14
[13] Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
[14] For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

--Elijah

 

[George Muller]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

Yes we are glad that Jesus brought to fulfillment the Old Covenant and brought us into a new a better one.

Heb 8:6 ¶ But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. {covenant: or, testament}
Heb 9:23 ¶ It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

That is interesting, even for the livestock needing a rest? ;)

--Elijah

It's a picture of us...the beast of burden endlessly plowing the fields of our sin and self-righteousness trying to raise a crop useful to the Master where only thorns and thristles grow. It's a horrible burden to carry.

Christ is the appointed time of Rest (since the creation of the world) for all who are heavy laden and burdened to find rest for their souls. He is the 7th Day to which the shadow pointed. We enter into that Day of rest when we believe.

Amen, amen, and amen.

 

[Deborah13]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

[13] Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
[14] For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Matthew 5:48

King James Version (KJV)

<sup class="versenum">48</sup>Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

Yes we are glad that Jesus brought to fulfillment the Old Covenant and brought us into a new a better one.

Heb 8:6 ¶ But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. {covenant: or, testament}
Heb 9:23 ¶ It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

And in regard to the covenant of the literal 7th day observance, it never changed a single soul. Never could.

 

[Elijah674]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

Not sure of the point, but it is very interesting to see that this very word that represents the "sabbath" is translated as "rest"

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart

One might also understand that this rest comes through faith in His Word?

(is that question mark for you? ;) )
How about Isaiah 66:21-25? and Isaiah 66:22-23 even calling it the 'NEW HEAVENS'.

--Elijah

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

God has said that He never changes! Mal. 3:6

But he does change how he does things:

19 See, I am doing a new thing!
Now it springs up; do you not perceive it?
I am making a way in the wilderness
and streams in the wasteland.
20 The wild animals honor me,
the jackals and the owls,
because I provide water in the wilderness
and streams in the wasteland,
to give drink to my people, my chosen...
(Isaiah 56:19-20 NIV)

We have to ask ourselves, "do we not perceive it?"

 

[Elijah674]

Re: What is your belief about the 7th. Day Sabbath?

Yes we are glad that Jesus brought to fulfillment the Old Covenant and brought us into a new a better one.

Heb 8:6 ¶ But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. {covenant: or, testament}
Heb 9:23 ¶ It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

And in regard to the covenant of the literal 7th day observance, it never changed a single soul. Never could.

So who are these ones found in Gen. 5 long after Abe died? (Gentiles from Haran)

Gen. 12:5
O! and this was the only reason that Abe was called to begin with!
See Gen. 26:25
[5] Because that Abraham [obeyed my voice,] and kept my charge, [my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.]

--Elijah