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[The Ascetic Crusader]

Re: reason

Science is 99% crackpot theories, 1 % scientific law. I stand by my claim. Period. Science has done absolutely nothing for God´s people. Nada. Zip.

Science = Smoke n mirrors.

Neglecting for a moment the facts that you pretty clearly don't know what "theory" and "law" mean, and your curious obsession with large fonts, consider this:

Science brought us the printing press. The printing press allowed for large-scale dissemination of the Bible.

Science brought us the printing press ? Wow! Let´s rewrite history while we´re at it.

Science brought us television. Television allowed for Christian speakers to reach a wider audience.

Hmmmm...what in Pete´s name has TV done FOR Christians. I would say it has weakened Christrian communities more than anything else.

Science brought us the internet (which you are using right this very minute, you heathen, you). The internet allows Christians from across the world to discuss their faith.

Dido for the internet

See? Your ridiculous claims don't even stand up in the face of your own twisted form of non-logic.

Of course, you probably know this, since you're pretty clearly a troll. No actual human being could be this colossally lame.

99% science theory, 1 % science fact. You are defending the untenable. Period.

 

[moniker]

Re: reason

99% science theory, 1 % science fact. You are defending the untenable. Period.

You do know what a scientific theory is, right? Otherwise you might want to invest in an encyclopedia.

 

[ArtGuy]

Re: reason

Science brought us the printing press ? Wow! Let´s rewrite history while we´re at it.

Technology is merely applied science. An understanding of the science behind engineering fundamentals allowed for us to create the technology used in the printing press.

I suppose yours is a good method of arguing, though. Just define anything that might disprove your point as "not science". Well done.

*clap clap clap*

 

[The Ascetic Crusader]

Re: reason

Science brought us the printing press ? Wow! Let´s rewrite history while we´re at it.

An understanding of the science behind engineering fundamentals allowed for us to create the technology used in the printing press.

Applied science (engineering) has absolutely nothing to do with the printing press, let alone Christianity.

 

[jwu]

So this thing is not a product of engineering?

 

[ArtGuy]

"And on the eighth day, God said 'Let there be a printing press!' And there was, and it was good, and lo did it produce many collections of Calvin and Hobbes that the people would rejoice in its name."

I suspect this is something like what AC envisions having happened.

 

[The Ascetic Crusader]

So this thing is not a product of engineering?

That´s like showing me a loaf of Wonder bread and asking me " You tellin´ me this ain´t the product of engineering ? "

Show me a picture of Guttenberg´s press, or a loaf of Egyptian bread. Then we´ll talk.

 

[jwu]

Ar you saying printing presses like that one are not used to print Bibles nowadays?

Either way, Gutenberg's press incorporates quite some engineering as well.

E.g. leverage effect to gain a lot of pressure, the letters were made of lead, so you need some metalworks to get them in first instance, the ink doesn't exactl grow on trees either.

 

[The Ascetic Crusader]

Ar you saying printing presses like that one are not used to print Bibles nowadays?

Either way, Gutenberg's press incorporates quite some engineering as well.

E.g. leverage effect to gain a lot of pressure, the letters were made of lead, so you need some metalworks to get them in first instance, the ink doesn't exactl grow on trees either.

Yeah ! Lots of scientific engineering there...suuure.

 

[The Ascetic Crusader]

Ar you saying printing presses like that one are not used to print Bibles nowadays?

Either way, Gutenberg's press incorporates quite some engineering as well.

E.g. leverage effect to gain a lot of pressure, the letters were made of lead, so you need some metalworks to get them in first instance, the ink doesn't exactl grow on trees either.

I wouldn´t exactly say the printing press helped Christianity....it was actually one of the causes of the great schism.

 

[moniker]

You really should invest in that encyclopedia I was talking about. It would probably help clear up a number of these...misconceptions you have.

en·gi·neer·ing Pronunciation Key (nj-nîrng)
n.

1.
1. The application of scientific and mathematical principles to practical ends such as the design, manufacture, and operation of efficient and economical structures, machines, processes, and systems.

Also, are you honestly saying that it was a bad idea to let people other than priests read the Bible?

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

Ar you saying printing presses like that one are not used to print Bibles nowadays?

Either way, Gutenberg's press incorporates quite some engineering as well.

E.g. leverage effect to gain a lot of pressure, the letters were made of lead, so you need some metalworks to get them in first instance, the ink doesn't exactl grow on trees either.

I wouldn´t exactly say the printing press helped Christianity....it was actually one of the causes of the great schism.

WHAT!!!!

The Gutenberg printing press caused the schism in the Catholic Church 400 YEARS before it was invented?????

 

[reznwerks]

God

So this thing is not a product of engineering?

That´s like showing me a loaf of Wonder bread and asking me " You tellin´ me this ain´t the product of engineering ? "

Show me a picture of Guttenberg´s press, or a loaf of Egyptian bread. Then we´ll talk.

Do you want to explain how the unproven , God of the universe came into being. After all it is impossible to create something greater than oneself. If we assume that a God exists and assume that he is capable of all that you claim then this being would have to have been created by something. He would have to know all kinds of math and science , he would have to have the same appreciation for music and art that we do, he would have to have the same feelings of man, the same needs of ego as man etc etc. Gee it sounds like man created God. Think about it.

 

[moniker]

Re: God

Do you want to explain how the unproven , God of the universe came into being.

Ultra-God.

 

[ArtGuy]

The Gutenberg printing press caused the schism in the Catholic Church 400 YEARS before it was invented?????

Yup, that's how evil and insidious it was. After it was invented, it actually went back in time and wreaked havok upon Christianity.

Of course, they had to get it up to 88 mph before it could do that.

 

[ArtGuy]

Re: God

Do you want to explain how the unproven , God of the universe came into being.

I trust you're comfortable with the idea of the universe being its own first cause. Why, then, do you have a problem with the idea of God being His own first cause?

 

[The Ascetic Crusader]

Ar you saying printing presses like that one are not used to print Bibles nowadays?

Either way, Gutenberg's press incorporates quite some engineering as well.

E.g. leverage effect to gain a lot of pressure, the letters were made of lead, so you need some metalworks to get them in first instance, the ink doesn't exactl grow on trees either.

I wouldn´t exactly say the printing press helped Christianity....it was actually one of the causes of the great schism.

WHAT!!!!

The Gutenberg printing press caused the schism in the Catholic Church 400 YEARS before it was invented?????

The other schism you dumbtruck!!!! The Protestant Reformation !!!! Deliver me from these heathens!!!

 

[jwu]

Then perhaps you should be more precise, as that's not what is called "the great schism"

Just wondering...what is your denomination?

 

[SyntaxVorlon]

So the ability to read your holy book not just get the latest views on it from the priest causes disagreements. How surprising. Do you miss the dark ages?

Seriously, science is just the standardized collection of all our knowledge, placed into the frame work of theories which help us make predictions about the world. Any time you look at something, think about how to change it, and act to bring about that change you are applying science, just a form of it with varying accuracy. A child who can make a castle out of legos after playing with them for a couple of hours is applying science, a person who is cooking bread with a flame is applying science, a man designing a printing press is applying science.

 

[reznwerks]

doom

[quote="The Ascetic Crusader":2b854]

Ar you saying printing presses like that one are not used to print Bibles nowadays?

Either way, Gutenberg's press incorporates quite some engineering as well.

E.g. leverage effect to gain a lot of pressure, the letters were made of lead, so you need some metalworks to get them in first instance, the ink doesn't exactl grow on trees either.

I wouldn´t exactly say the printing press helped Christianity....it was actually one of the causes of the great schism.

WHAT!!!!

The Gutenberg printing press caused the schism in the Catholic Church 400 YEARS before it was invented?????

The other schism you dumbtruck!!!! The Protestant Reformation !!!! Deliver me from these heathens!!![/quote:2b854]
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