The Angels and Archangels

[elijah23]

The angels are those who have repented of their sin. The archangels are those who lead the angels. Satan, what purpose is served in reviling those who have repented of their sin? Didn’t Jesus command us to repent (Matt 4:17)?

 

[Malachi]

The holy angels never sinned, and the evil angels will never repent, but will be cast into the Lake of Fire eventually.

The holy archangels are God's chief angels, but Satan also has his hierarchies of thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers, as well as spiritual wickedness in high places (Eph 6:12).

We are surrounded by invisible hosts of evil angels, as well as invisible hosts of holy angels.

Satan hates Christ and Christians, therefore he reviles those who have repented of their sins and been saved by grace.

And Jesus did command us to repent, but repentance is rarely preached today.

 

[turnorburn]

How true.. that and hell fire isn't preached much anymore..

tob

Edit: forgot something "again"

 

[Sinthesis]

I can find only one archangel in the bible.

 

[Willie T]

Yeah, we definitely need more of that good ol' Hellfire & Brimstone like Jesus taught.

 

[reba]

quick search on the word 'hell' 23 listings in the Second Testament (jasonc) 16 are the words of Jesus... I did not look into what was said...
All 23 are from God

 

[Willie T]

quick search on the word 'hell' 23 listings in the Second Testament (jasonc) 16 are the words of Jesus... I did not look into what was said...
All 23 are from God

That can kind of lead to dangerous assumptions when you don't look go at look at what was said.... AND how many mentions are "repeats" (duplicates) of what was said in another gospel.

 

[reba]

Agree that is why i said 'quick' and stated i did nt look into verbige

 

[elijah23]

Some people strive to become archangels and will someday achieve that goal. Other people whine.

 

[Kathi]

Some people strive to be archangels and will someday achieve that goal. Other people whine.

I don't understand what you mean.Do you mean that a human can become an angel?

 

[turnorburn]

Jesus did preach fire and brimstone, he even drew a picture of the place..

tob

 

[elijah23]

The holy angels never sinned, and the evil angels will never repent, but will be cast into the Lake of Fire eventually.

The holy archangels are God's chief angels, but Satan also has his hierarchies of thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers, as well as spiritual wickedness in high places (Eph 6:12).

We are surrounded by invisible hosts of evil angels, as well as invisible hosts of holy angels.

Satan hates Christ and Christians, therefore he reviles those who have repented of their sins and been saved by grace.

And Jesus did command us to repent, but repentance is rarely preached today.

Only Jesus never sinned.

 

[Free]

Only Jesus never sinned.

In the biblical usage, angels and archangels, both good and evil, are spiritual begins, not humans. Jesus was the only man who never sinned.

 

[Kathi]

In the biblical usage, angels and archangels, both good and evil, are spiritual begins, not humans. Jesus was the only man who never sinned.

Oh so right.

 

[Kathi]

Jesus did preach fire and brimstone, he even drew a picture of the place..

tob

I did not know that He drew a picture of the place.That is cool.It must have been very important to Him.

 

[Malachi]

Some people strive to become archangels and will someday achieve that goal. Other people whine.

Where are you getting these strange ideas from? People are not striving to become archangels or whining about it. And even if they thought they would like to become archangels, it would simply be wishful thinking. Angels and humans are distinct from each other and will remain so for eternity.

And what does Jesus not having sinned have anything to do with where you started at the top? Of course He did not sin. He knew no sin. He did no sin. He could not sin. He would not sin. He hated sin. He died for the sins of the world.

For the person who was wondering how many archangels there are, although Michael is singled out as an archangel in Jude 9, if you go to the book of Daniel, they are called "chief princes". Gabriel is also considered an archangel, but many of them are not named except in the Apocryhal book of Enoch (Enoch is not Scripture but is quoted in Scripture at Jude 14,15). Instead they are generically at the top of the angelic hierarchies mentioned as thrones, dominions, principalities and powers (Col :16).

God never intended us to focus on angels, worship angels, or pray to angels (as many do). That is idolatry. Our focus must be strictly on the triune Godhead and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Sinthesis]

In the biblical usage, angels and archangels, both good and evil, are spiritual begins, not humans. Jesus was the only man who never sinned.

Humans aren't spiritual beings?

In the biblical usage there is only one archangel.

 

[Adstar]

Some people strive to become archangels and will someday achieve that goal. Other people whine.

No human being is going to become an Angel. The Bible says we shall be greater then angels because we shall judge angels.

1 Corinthians 6
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

 

[Willie T]

Where are you getting these strange ideas from? People are not striving to become archangels or whining about it. And even if they thought they would like to become archangels, it would simply be wishful thinking. Angels and humans are distinct from each other and will remain so for eternity.

And what does Jesus not having sinned have anything to do with where you started at the top? Of course He did not sin. He knew no sin. He did no sin. He could not sin. He would not sin. He hated sin. He died for the sins of the world.

For the person who was wondering how many archangels there are, although Michael is singled out as an archangel in Jude 9, if you go to the book of Daniel, they are called "chief princes". Gabriel is also considered an archangel, but many of them are not named except in the Apocryhal book of Enoch (Enoch is not Scripture but is quoted in Scripture at Jude 14,15). Instead they are generically at the top of the angelic hierarchies mentioned as thrones, dominions, principalities and powers (Col :16).

God never intended us to focus on angels, worship angels, or pray to angels (as many do). That is idolatry. Our focus must be strictly on the triune Godhead and the Lord Jesus Christ.

I'll probably always butt head with this poster on many issues, but this particular post is 100%, dead-on accurate.