The Great White Throne Judgement

[for_his_glory]

In some cases the Written Word of God was passed from generation to generation as oral tradition. This is amazing that God was able to preserve His word in this way.

Mat 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
Mat 10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
Mat 10:4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.

The only ones who wrote their letters that make up the NT canon are Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, James, Peter and Jude. Luke, Paul and Jude were not part of the original twelve, but their letters were important that make up the NT. Not to say the others did not write their letters as many are found in the Apocrypha, but only these ones are found in the NT as being authentic.

Interesting to note that Luke, Paul and Jude were not of the original 12 Disciples, but yet called of God to write their letters to the Jews and Gentiles in their day.

BTW, the authorship needs to be another thread so this one does not become derailed.

 

[Elijah7777]

Luke, Paul and Jude were not part of the original twelve

Mark was not a disciple. He was the son of Mary that owned the upper room where Jesus and the disciples stayed when they were in Jerusalem. Also that is where Peter was preaching on Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was poured out and the Church (age) began. It was also the site of the Last Supper.

 

[for_his_glory]

Hi for_his_glory, we have discussed this years ago, a little, about: The Great White Throne Judgement

Bible Study Thread 'The Great White Throne Judgment'

Feb 5, 2021

Friday 2-5-21 Shevat 22, 5781 6th. day of the weekly cycle, 47th. Winter Day

One of the Bible’s as-yet-unfulfilled prophecies is the Great White Throne Judgment, described in Revelation 20. This event will involve everyone who did not accept Jesus as their Savior during their life on earth. Christians will not be present; they will participate in a separate judgment known as the Judgment Seat of Christ.

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• WalterandDebbie
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Love, Walter And Debbie

Yes we have discussed this in the past and always good to bring it up once in awhile for all the new members that have not seen this. Now is the time to be prepared before we die or before the return of Christ on the last day.

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Yes we have discussed this in the past and always good to bring it up once in awhile for all the new members that have not seen this. Now is the time to be prepared before we die or before the return of Christ on the last day.

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Good morning, Deb, how are you all? We are well, thank you Sister.

Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[for_his_glory]

Mark was not a disciple. He was the son of Mary that owned the upper room where Jesus and the disciples stayed when they were in Jerusalem. Also that is where Peter was preaching on Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was poured out and the Church (age) began. It was also the site of the Last Supper

Mark was not a disciple. He was the son of Mary that owned the upper room where Jesus and the disciples stayed when they were in Jerusalem. Also that is where Peter was preaching on Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was poured out and the Church (age) began. It was also the site of the Last Supper.

According to scripture Mary was the mother of John, whose surname was Mark. Peter came to her house after the Lord brought him out of prison, Acts 12:11-17. It is understood that the book of Mark was written by John whose surname was Mark.

 

[for_his_glory]

Good morning, Deb, how are you all? We are well, thank you Sister.

Love, Walter And Debbie

We have our health issues, but besides that we are doing well. Glad you are doing well and always in my prayers

 

[WalterandDebbie]

We have our health issues, but besides that we are doing well. Glad you are doing well and always in my prayers

Yes, we must earnestly contend for the faith that was once delivered unto the saints

Love, Walter

 

[for_his_glory]

I don't believe we can equate God's heavenly reign with His future earthly reign during the Millennium. Yes, God has always reigned over His creation. But being that Man rebelled against God and set up his own kingdoms God has planned to reinstall His Kingdom on the earth.

He did have a Kingdom on earth of sorts when He dignified His association with Israel's obedient worship via the Temple worship. God was with ruled together with King David on earth over Israel.

But Israel, in her sin, turned away from God, and ultimately lost their theocracy. After Babylon, the theocracy returned, but only up until the Jews rejected and murdered Jesus. Then the Kingdom of God on earth was taken from them and ultimately given to the Roman Empire, which under Theodosius became a Christian Empire.

However, even Christian theocracies are predicted to fail, just as Israel failed. And God's heavenly Kingdom will have to be installed some time in the future when Christ returns. Then the kingdoms of this world will never again usurp God's place on earth.

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

The Kingdom of God will never come to be on this present earth, but now within those who are truly Christ own.


Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

 

[donadams]

Are the Apostles alive today, no. It is what Jesus taught them as they were inspired by God to write so that we would have the written word of God and given the Holy Spirit as they were to teach us all truths. Do we venerate them and bow down to them making the Apostles our idol, no.

no idols not but Christ established the church with command to teach and sanctify all men (not some men, all nations, not a few nations) and witnessing to the ends of the earth! matt 28:19 acts 1:8
not possible to the original apostles so the apostles have authority to make and send more apostles until Christ returns! Jn 20;21-23
acts 1:25-26
thks

 

[for_his_glory]

no idols not but Christ established the church with command to teach and sanctify all men (not some men, all nations, not a few nations) and witnessing to the ends of the earth! matt 28:19 acts 1:8
not possible to the original apostles so the apostles have authority to make and send more apostles until Christ returns! Jn 20;21-23
acts 1:25-26
thks

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Nowhere in these verses does it say to make more Apostles. We who have answered the call to Salvation through Christ Jesus and indwelled with the Holy Spirit are Christ own as our names are found written in the Lamb's book of life.

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

 

[Fish153]

Jesus never taught a pretrib Rapture nor a seven year tribulation period.

Margaret MacDonald in Port Glasgow, Scotland in the 1800’s had a vision of a pretrib rapture, but she felt that the vision felt dark and evil as an untruth. When telling others of her vision many preachers ran with it as being true and started teaching their theories on pretrib rapture. There theories were handed down to us through such men as J.N. Darby, Edward Irving, C.I. Lewis and many others to present day. Notice the word theory. Theory is just the carnal minds way of interpreting something.

There is no mention in scripture about a secret quiet rapture or a second chance after the saints of God are caught up to meet Jesus in the air as Jesus will descend with a shout and with the trump of God. This does not sound like it’s going to be a quiet so called rapture does it and every eye will see him and every knee will bow saints and those who choose to reject Jesus. The Holy Spirit dwells in us the believers and isn’t something that just floats around in the air so for this reason when we are taken up so is the Holy Spirit giving no one a second chance because we are sealed by Gods Spirit for Salvation and after the Spirit is taken up no one has a second chance, 1Thessalonians 4:16; Revelation 1:7; John 14:17; 2Corinthians 1:21, 22 .


God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seventh trumpet, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 1/2 years or 3 Times as the Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 1/2 years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

No where in scripture does it mention a seven year tribulation, but only seven trumpets of God's fierce wrath as scripture says we will always have tribulations as the last time will be such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21; Deuteronomy 4:30-31; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1 Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1 Peter 1:6.

Please note that Jesus says both "I come as a thief..." and also it says in Revelation "every eye shall see him".
This is because his return is in two phases: 1. He comes FOR his saints and raptures them--no one will "see" Him except the saints who meet him in the air. 2. When he comes WITH the saints in the second phase every eye on earth will see his return. The Rapture is a Biblical teaching.

 

[Fish153]

This sounds more like a resurrection than a rapture.

It is. This is the RESURRECTION OF BELIEVERS.
"Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years". (Rev. 20:6)

Daniel also mentions two resurrections: The resurrection of the Just, and the resurrection of the wicked who are brought back to life to everlasting shame and contempt.

Note that those who are "resurrected" first reign with Christ for a thousand years. This is a Premillenial resurrection. The reason they reign with Christ is because he has first raptured them, and they return with him to the earth to serve in the Millenial Kingdom. The Rapture is fully Scriptural. You have to remember that God has given more and more prophetic knowledge as we draw closer to the return of Christ. Even Isaac Newton said that he thought near the very end that men who were given great prophetic knowledge would arise. The Rapture has always been in the Bible. It has just taken time for Christians to understand it as we move closer to the end of time. Men didn't know for hundreds and hundreds of years when Israel would be reborn again. All they could do was guess. But now we know that on May 14th 1948 Israel came back to life. The Rapture is a true teaching, and even Paul says "WE who are alive and remain..." when referring to those who are alive when Christ returns. He was uncertain of when the Rapture would happen, so he includes himself just in case he is still alive when it happens---The Rapture can happen at any time. And that is what makes it such an exciting teaching too---we need to "watch" because we have no idea when Jesus might come back. It could literally be today. Hallelujah!

 

[RandyK]

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

The Kingdom of God will never come to be on this present earth, but now within those who are truly Christ own.


Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Have it your way. I'm just stating what I believe, and I accept that's what you believe. The Scriptures do say what you quote them as saying. But I personally believe God promised Abraham "nations," and not just an individual "indwelling."