The Beast with Seven Heads, Ten Horns Video

[Carry_Your_Name]

My Bible reads different:

11 "And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. (Rev. 17:11 NKJ)

I only interpret scripture.

Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. (Rev. 13:1)

The Beast only has seven in total, where's the eighth? The entire beast is counted as the eighth, but it's with the SEVENTH head, there's no eighth head.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. (Rev. 13:1)

The Beast only has seven in total, where's the eighth? The entire beast is counted as the eighth, but it's with the SEVENTH head, there's no eighth head.

Daniel is the key to this symbolism. In Daniel four beasts rise, one had four heads = seven heads total.

The Seven head beast of revelation is its own head = 8 heads.

The angel is clear:

10 "There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
11 "And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.
(Rev. 17:10-11 NKJ)

The beast is of the seven, which the Antichrist rules as king, was Rome and now its 10 headed version exists, is itself an eighth king and goes off into total destruction at Aramageddon, unlike the other kingdoms which continue to exist during the Millennial kingdom:

11 "I watched then because of the sound of the pompous words which the horn was speaking; I watched till the beast was slain, and its body destroyed and given to the burning flame.
12 "As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.
(Dan. 7:11-12 NKJ)

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Daniel is the key to this symbolism. In Daniel four beasts rise, one had four heads = seven heads total.

The Seven head beast of revelation is its own head = 8 heads.

The beast's last head is still the seventh, as the beast is "of the seven", there's no additional eighth head. Rev. 13:1 says only seven in total.

 

[Alfred Persson]

The beast's last head is still the seventh, as the beast is "of the seven", there's no additional eighth head. Rev. 13:1 says only seven in total.

You can't be "of" something, and be that something at the same time.

The wording of scripture never impacts your interpretations. You can have the final word, I got consequential things to do.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

You can't be "of" something, and be that something at the same time.

The wording of scripture never impacts your interpretations. You can have the final word, I got consequential things to do.

Only God has the final word, in this case, the beast has seven heads in sequence, one after another all the way to the seventh. At John's time, five had fallen, the sixth was, the seventh was yet to come.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Only God has the final word, in this case, the beast has seven heads in sequence, one after another all the way to the seventh. At John's time, five had fallen, the sixth was, the seventh was yet to come.

Similar language doesn't mean the same thing is denoted. The mortal wound to the head, for example, is not the sword wound to the Beast which he survived and which Greek tense proves the wounds happened in different times.

Daniel's fourth beast existed in the days of Christ, and its 10 horn version that God destroys exists for seven years in the End time.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Similar language doesn't mean the same thing is denoted. The mortal wound to the head, for example, is not the sword wound to the Beast which he survived and which Greek tense proves the wounds happened in different times.

Daniel's fourth beast existed in the days of Christ, and its 10 horn version that God destroys exists for seven years in the End time.

There's only one mortal/deadly wound, why do you keep making stuffs unnecessarily complicated? I see it as a fake death and resurrection, the deadly wound a fake death, the miraculous healing (probably by the earth beast) a fake resurrection.

 

[Alfred Persson]

There's only one mortal/deadly wound, why do you keep making stuffs unnecessarily complicated? I see it as a fake death and resurrection, the deadly wound a fake death, the miraculous healing (probably by the earth beast) a fake resurrection.

Yes, you see what you see, scripture is irrelevant. Change in Greek tense, different objects wounded, different types of wounds, none of that difference is in your vision. You see what you see, that's is it.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Yes, you see what you see, scripture is irrelevant. Change in Greek tense, different objects wounded, different types of wounds, none of that difference is in your vision. You see what you see, that's is it.

You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own scripture.

 

[Alfred Persson]

You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own scripture.

That might be witty if 1)its what i did; 2)if you didn't ignore scripture whenever it suits you.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

That might be witty if 1)its what i did; 2)if you didn't ignore scripture whenever it suits you.

The beast only has seven heads in total, and only one deadly wound received, John repeated the same thing several time for emphasis, you on the other hand was just making stuffs up.

 

[Alfred Persson]

The beast only has seven heads in total, and only one deadly wound received, John repeated the same thing several time for emphasis, you on the other hand was just making stuffs up.

The angels say the entire beast is the "eighth head":

9 "Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.
10 "There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
11 "And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.
(Rev. 17:9-11 NKJ)

You still miss the key Daniel gave, to interpret this. Some equivocation occurs with the word "head" and "beast", these can refer to kindgom or king ruling it. That's why the two horned beast (Britain and America) is called "the false prophet" because they unite under one leader.

Its also why a head can die from a mortal wound, but the beast government that is struck by a sword (warfare) can survive it without a healing. Context indicates whether king or kingdom is meant. The entire seven headed beast with 10 horns and blasphemous mouth, that ends up in the lake of fire, is the Antichrist Beast, the king ruling the eighth kingdom. He is also called a horn in Daniel. Context must be carefully followed to know precisely what the symbolism is referring to.

Confirming this, the Dragon has seven heads and ten horns. That symbolizes these are govenments and kings through which he works, deceiving the earth since the Tower of Babel. Perhaps you don't now, literally its the Tower of Babylon, and that is why we see the Harlot Babylon return, the mother of harlots. That's where all false religion had its start, in the Tower of Babylon. They were scattered throughout the earth taking elements of Babylonian religion with them.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

The angels say the entire beast is the "eighth head":

The "eighth", not the "eighth head". Yes the beast itself is counted as the EIGHTH, there's no additional eighth head on top of the seven.

You still miss the key Daniel gave, to interpret this. Some equivocation occurs with the word "head" and "beast", these can refer to kindgom or king ruling it. That's why the two horned beast (Britain and America) is called "the false prophet" because they unite under one leader.

Its also why a head can die from a mortal wound, but the beast government that is struck by a sword (warfare) can survive it without a healing. Context indicates whether king or kingdom is meant. The entire seven headed beast with 10 horns and blasphemous mouth, that ends up in the lake of fire, is the Antichrist Beast, the king ruling the eighth kingdom. He is also called a horn in Daniel. Context must be carefully followed to know precisely what the symbolism is referring to.

Confirming this, the Dragon has seven heads and ten horns. That symbolizes these are govenments and kings through which he works, deceiving the earth since the Tower of Babel. Perhaps you don't now, literally its the Tower of Babylon, and that is why we see the Harlot Babylon return, the mother of harlots. That's where all false religion had its start, in the Tower of Babylon. They were scattered throughout the earth taking elements of Babylonian religion with them.

All I'm saying is that the seven heads do not exist simultaneously, but rather in sequential order, one comes after another, becuase the angel told John: "five have fallen, one IS, and one is yet to come." So at John's time only one head was present, which was the sixth; when the seventh comes, the sixth will be gone like the other five before it, and it will be the seventh head that receives a mortal wound. And as a matter of fact, none of that is in Daniel’s vision, Daniel saw the ten horns but not the seven heads.

 

[Alfred Persson]

The "eighth", not the "eighth head". Yes the beast itself is counted as the EIGHTH, there's no additional eighth head on top of the seven.

All I'm saying is that the seven heads do not exist simultaneously, but rather in sequential order, one comes after another, becuase the angel told John: "five have fallen, one IS, and one is yet to come." So at John's time only one head was present, which was the sixth; when the seventh comes, the sixth will be gone like the other five before it, and it will be the seventh head that receives a mortal wound. And as a matter of fact, none of that is in Daniel’s vision, Daniel saw the ten horns but not the seven heads.

Great, you finally agree with me.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Great, you finally agree with me.

No, I don't agree on any "eighth head“, the beast being the eighth is not the "eighth head".

 

[reddogs]

Rev 12:3 the other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been cast out of heaven until the beginning of the 3 1/2 year tribulation. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8. The last kingdom which stands greater than all the others is that of a revived Roman Empire that takes control over all the ten nations who then implements a deceiving peace treaty with the Muslims in which the Dome of the Rock will be given over to the son of perdition as he reigns from the very Temple mount of God. This is the abomination Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15, 16 that we are to flee from when we see the son of perdition take his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years.

Rev 13 the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system comprised of economic, political, militant, environmental and a false religious system. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. That caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (ten horns). The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seventh trumpet, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 1/2 years or 3 Times as the Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 1/2 years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

No where in scripture does it mention a seven year tribulation, but only seven trumpets of God's fierce wrath as scripture says we will always have tribulations as the last time will be such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21; Deut 4:30-31; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1 Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1 Peter 1:6.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13:3. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France, who made his entrance into Rome, abolished the Roman government and established a secular one and captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to Pope Pius XI and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

The Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome in 27BC with Augustus Caesar becoming the first emperor of Rome in 27 BC and died in 14AD. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) that reigned from 330AD to 1453AD. The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.

The crowns on its heads show that this dragon claims royal authority against the true King who is God of all creation as he prepares to take his seat above all that which is Gods Kingdom claiming he is God as he prepares to deceive the world through that of an existing Roman Empire, Daniel 8:9-12; Isaiah 14:12-15.

The beast rises up out of the sea, Rev 13, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:15-28.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (Germans in Great Britain), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

The beast out of the earth, Rev 13:11-18, is the revived Roman Empire (mystery Babylon) which causes man to take its mark. Daniel 7:25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time, 2 Thessalonians 2:13-12.

People need to read their history and then compare, but few do..

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Rev 12:3 the other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been cast out of heaven until the beginning of the 3 1/2 year tribulation. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8. The last kingdom which stands greater than all the others is that of a revived Roman Empire that takes control over all the ten nations who then implements a deceiving peace treaty with the Muslims in which the Dome of the Rock will be given over to the son of perdition as he reigns from the very Temple mount of God. This is the abomination Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15, 16 that we are to flee from when we see the son of perdition take his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years.

Rev 13 the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system comprised of economic, political, militant, environmental and a false religious system. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. That caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (ten horns). The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seventh trumpet, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 1/2 years or 3 Times as the Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 1/2 years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

No where in scripture does it mention a seven year tribulation, but only seven trumpets of God's fierce wrath as scripture says we will always have tribulations as the last time will be such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21; Deut 4:30-31; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1 Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1 Peter 1:6.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13:3. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France, who made his entrance into Rome, abolished the Roman government and established a secular one and captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to Pope Pius XI and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

The Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome in 27BC with Augustus Caesar becoming the first emperor of Rome in 27 BC and died in 14AD. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) that reigned from 330AD to 1453AD. The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.

The crowns on its heads show that this dragon claims royal authority against the true King who is God of all creation as he prepares to take his seat above all that which is Gods Kingdom claiming he is God as he prepares to deceive the world through that of an existing Roman Empire, Daniel 8:9-12; Isaiah 14:12-15.

The beast rises up out of the sea, Rev 13, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:15-28.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (Germans in Great Britain), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

The beast out of the earth, Rev 13:11-18, is the revived Roman Empire (mystery Babylon) which causes man to take its mark. Daniel 7:25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time, 2 Thessalonians 2:13-12.

I'm with you on the three and a half year tribulation, but I disagree on your historical interpretation of the seven heads and ten kings from the 7th Day Adventist. That's a euro-centric view which only focuses on western europe, while the rest of world is totally ignored. One thing that should be noted is that the seven kings come in sequence, one falls and another rises, from the first all the way to the seven, then the best itself will be counted as the eighth; the ten kings, on the other hand, will exist simultaneously. Of the seven kings, the one that "is" obviously was the Roman Empire at apostle John's time, but the seventh, the one to come will be a global empire, it will reign over all nations, tribes and tongues on earth for three and a half years, not just ten tribes in western Europe. In foreseeable future, the world could be divided into ten regions governed by a totalitarian UN regime, we're heading in that direction. Meanwhile, there will rise a counterfeit messiah in Israel which is the Beast from the Earth.

It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. (Rev. 13:7)

The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. (Rev. 17:15)

Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. (Rev. 17:9-13)

 

[for_his_glory]

I'm with you on the three and a half year tribulation, but I disagree on your historical interpretation of the seven heads and ten kings from the 7th Day Adventist. That's a euro-centric view which only focuses on western europe, while the rest of world is totally ignored. One thing that should be noted is that the seven kings come in sequence, one falls and another rises, from the first all the way to the seven, then the best itself will be counted as the eighth; the ten kings, on the other hand, will exist simultaneously. Of the seven kings, the one that "is" obviously was the Roman Empire at apostle John's time, but the seventh, the one to come will be a global empire, it will reign over all nations, tribes and tongues on earth for three and a half years, not just ten tribes in western Europe. In foreseeable future, the world could be divided into ten regions governed by a totalitarian UN regime, we're heading in that direction. Meanwhile, there will rise a counterfeit messiah in Israel which is the Beast from the Earth.

It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. (Rev. 13:7)

The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. (Rev. 17:15)

Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. (Rev. 17:9-13)

I'm not a 7th day Adventist, but I do study certain history when it comes to the end of days ten nations.

I explained earlier in who the ten nations were. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. Seven of these nations are the ancestors of the modern nations of Europe.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (English), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

I'm not a 7th day Adventist, but I do study certain history when it comes to the end of days ten nations.

Those ten Germanic tribes are NOT the "end of days" ten nations, they don't fit the criteria in Rev. 13:7 and 17:15. I pointed it out to you that this interpretation is a narrow-minded Euro-centric view, when it eventually comes to the end of days, God's prophecy will be fulfilled on a global scale, not limited in western Europe. Plus there's no "one day for a year" principle in the bible, all of that is 7th day Adventist fiction, regardless of your disclaimer.