blueeyeliner said:
bibleberean said:
I have a new policy of no longer directly conversing with "hardened atheists".
:smt024
Dear bibleberean,please don't let these atheists get to you.
They need the gospel more than anyone else on earth. Don't leave them alone to themselves if you don't have to. This is not an atheists message
board. Share the gospel even if they can't handle it.
They claim to believe in philosophy but they are predjudice against the
philosophy in the bible. Thats not right.
This atheist is playing a game with you. He's easy to defeat.
God wants us to teach them the truth,but if they don't listen to us,
remember that they will face greater punishment for it.
bibleberean,if you look up the information about Christian Scientists
who don't support evolution,you'll have a much better understanding
at what satan is trying to accomplish through these individuals. He is
actually getting them prepared to accept pagan religion because there
is no way he's going to let them get away with not worshiping him.
Atheism had it's season in the sun,now it's the end times so satan is
priming up his stooges for false religion.
Please hang in there. If you cannot,I understand.
Don't worry I think they would be funny if I wasn't concerned about where their souls could be spending eternity.
Here is some information on the Urrey Miller test.
There are no reputable scientists that believe life came from this experiment.
Taken from the Darwinism refuted site.
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/molecul ... gy_09.html
"This experiment aroused great excitement among evolutionists, and was promoted as an outstanding success. Moreover, in a state of intoxicated euphoria, various publications carried headlines such as "Miller creates life." However, what Miller had managed to synthesize was only a few inanimate molecules.
Encouraged by this experiment, evolutionists immediately produced new scenarios. Stages following the development of amino acids were hurriedly hypothesized. Supposedly, amino acids had later united in the correct sequences by accident to form proteins. Some of these proteins which emerged by chance formed themselves into cell membrane-like structures which "somehow" came into existence and formed a primitive cell. These cells then supposedly came together over time to form multicellular living organisms.
However, Miller's experiment has since proven to be false in many respects.
Miller's experiment sought to prove that amino acids could form on their own in primordial earth-like conditions, but it contains inconsistencies in a number of areas:
1- By using a mechanism called a "cold trap," Miller isolated the amino acids from the environment as soon as they were formed. Had he not done so, the conditions in the environment in which the amino acids were formed would immediately have destroyed these molecules.
Doubtless, this kind of conscious isolation mechanism
did not exist on the primordial earth. Without such a mechanism, even if one amino acid were obtained, it would immediately have been destroyed. The chemist Richard Bliss expresses this contradiction by observing that "Actually, without this trap, the chemical products, would have been destroyed by the energy source."254 And, sure enough, in his previous experiments, Miller had been unable to make even one single amino acid using the same materials without the cold trap mechanism.
2- The primordial atmosphere that Miller attempted to simulate in his experiment was not realistic. In the 1980s,
scientists agreed that nitrogen and carbon dioxide should have been used in this artificial environment instead of methane and ammonia.
Miller and Urey imitated the ancient atmosphere on the Earth with a mixture of methane and ammonia. ...However in the latest studies, it has been understood that the Earth was very hot at those times, and that it was composed of melted nickel and iron. Therefore, the chemical atmosphere of that time should have been formed mostly of nitrogen (N2), carbon dioxide (CO2) and water vapour (H2O). However these are not as appropriate as methane and ammonia for the production of organic molecules.
The American scientists J. P. Ferris and C. T. Chen repeated Miller's experiment with an atmospheric environment that contained carbon dioxide, hydrogen, nitrogen, and water vapor, and were unable to obtain even a single amino acid molecule
bibleberean adds:
Let alone produced a living cell.
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atmosphere at the time when they were thought to have beeAnother important point that invalidates Miller's experiment is that there was enough oxygen to destroy all the amino acids in the n formed.
This fact, overlooked by Miller, is revealed by the traces of oxidized iron found in rocks that are estimated to be 3.5 billion years old.257
There are other findings showing that the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere at that time was much higher than originally claimed by evolutionists. Studies also show that the amount of ultraviolet radiation to which the earth was then exposed was 10,000 times more than evolutionists' estimates. This intense radiation would unavoidably have freed oxygen by decomposing the water vapor and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
This situation completely negates Miller's experiment, in which oxygen was completely neglected. If oxygen had been used in the experiment, methane would have decomposed into carbon dioxide and water, and ammonia into nitrogen and water."
For full article go to ...
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/molecul ... gy_09.html
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Psalms 53:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
