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The Cancer on this board.

See Acts 4:12!
God said to God/Christ.. '[I WILL] (future/tense) declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto *ME, [THOU] art my SON: [[[THIS DAY HAVE I **BEGOTTEN THEE]]].' Psalms 2:7

SO WHO WAS CHRIST BEFORE HE WAS THE SON??? And DO NOT FORGET THAT THIS IS ETERNAL GOSPEL! Rev. 14:6 And God was surely NOT TALKING TO HIMSELF!

And Paul Tel's us of when the DAY CAME for CHRIST to [BECOME THE SON] in Acts 13:32-33.. 'And we declare unto you glad tidings, how [THAT PROMISE] which was made [UNTO THE FATHERS] [GOD HATH FULFILLED] the same unto [us their children] **IN THAT HE HATH RAISED UP JESUS AGAIN; as it is ALSO written in the second Psalm, [**THOU ART MY SON THIS DAY **HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE].'

Again! Who was the GOD/MAN CHRIST before the Eternal PLAN was Consummated?? It is for sure that God was Not talking too or ABOUT HIMSELF!

And the TIME had COME for Christ to BECOME THE SON! And in case these two gal's (guys??) get confused by your postings? Here is another HOLY SPIRIT OR HOLY GHOST INSPIRED verse to the ETERNAL WORD HIMSELF BEFORE HE BECAME THE SON. (and that verse was of John 1:3 'The WORD WAS GOD.. you know??!

In Their UNIFIED CREATION before Adam sinned we see all three Active. After Adam sinned he lost the 'dominion of earth to satan. See Gen. 1:26 & Matt. 4:9.

And at this time the Eternal PLAN of the Rev. 14:6 'ETERNAL GOSPEL' was set into motion. That plan of the Godhead gave satan Adams jurisdiction over earth. And they put Christ in charge of Adams past domain. (Christ was to be the second Adam)

That is enough for now. Yet, take NOTE of a sin/less Christ who has DOCUMENTED below, that the Holy Spirit Himself IS AN SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL!

John 14:[15] If ye love me, keep my commandments.
[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. (?? surely one has got to be Born Again FIRST! John 3:3)
John 16:[7
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
[8] And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, (see Gen. 6:3 for His STRIVINGS!) and of righteousness, and of judgment:

[9] Of sin, because they believe not on me;

[10] Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

[11] Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

[12] I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
(? one needs to remember that they are to be Born Again first! other/wise it is just Gen. 6:3 STRIVINGS! And not Rom. 8:14's LEADING)

Take special note of His INDIVIDUAL PERSONAGE!

[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

[14] He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. (??)

[15] All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

(And it seems that, that this pennman.. John, who lived right on up to Rev.'s AD 96 would have had the Holy Spirit have him tidey up any mistakes that he 'might' had made, huh?)

What gets me, is the devil is a LIAR from the beginning, while CHRIST IS SO POSITIVELY CLEAR HERE, and yet, you'ins just keep on with corresponding with his 'agents'!

But FORUM: remember again that the verse 8 ones are not being LED as the Born Again ones of Rom. 8:14 are!

--Elijah
 
veteran said:
When is the subject going to get back to explaining these verses more in-depth?

Jude 1:6-7
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
(KJV)

And the phrase "men of renown" per Gen.6:4 about the offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men"? Does that have anything to do with the origin of ancient pagan mythologies?

Yes it does. Look at this video and just imagine them walking around. These "men of renown" were the gods of mythology. I don't understand why folks think it is so far-fetched that angels produced them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-8bVEIVUh8
 
--Elijah here:
See if this answers the question forum?
1John.4
[1] Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

[2] Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

[3] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (And who actually BELIEVES the [DOCTRINE OF CHRIST Rev. 14:6 & 2 John 1:9]!

[4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[5] They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

[6] We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
 
veteran said:
When is the subject going to get back to explaining these verses more in-depth?

Jude 1:6-7
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
(KJV)

And the phrase "men of renown" per Gen.6:4 about the offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men"? Does that have anything to do with the origin of ancient pagan mythologies?

An obvious indication that the "sons of God" left heaven and had sex with the daughters of Adam....

Is this shocking ?????? Of course even thought the daughters of Adam were fair (beautiful) the overall goal was to pollute them......very simple game plan,,,,that was active in the garden when satan did the same thing.....they were just following there masters lead... :lol :screwloose

Does that have anything to do with the origin of ancient pagan mythologies

I believe so,,,,we have already documented the fallen angels being on earth,,,,I believe there interaction with man not only advanced certain clans faster (kenites) but caused man to worship them......

So did men see the Giants as Gods,,,,,,, the fallen angels as Gods,,,,,, or both?????????

I think Sargon the magnificent would be a good example of how men view hybrids........
 
One needs to broaden BELIEF in Gods WORD.

2 Peter 2
[4] For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; (chains of what??? DARKNESS! Exactly as God told us in Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 before CREATION.)

Jude 1
[6] And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Rev.20
[1] And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

[3] And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

(And this is told us exactly as seen in Jer. 4:23-27)

[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
(again Jer, 4:26 FINDS SOME ready at the Second Coming of Christ)

[5] But the rest of the d-e-a-d lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

(put number 6 here!)This is the first resurrection.
[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

(DOING WHAT??? See 1 Cor. 6:2-3. When the above SECOND Death comes at this times ENDING, when would the time be for us to have a part in this Execution stage if not during this period of 1000 years???)

[7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

[8] And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

[9] And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(There are quite a number at that time who come up out of their graves to die the Second Eternal death. Note verse 12 of Jude 1 stated TWICE DEAD!)

--Elijah
 
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