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The Church reigning with Him on Earth.

That makes perfect sense to me Brother. I was looking for an answer with scripture. :)

From what I've read there are four levels of relationship with God. Servant, friend, son, and Bride.

Bick here. First, I don't see that the Church Body of Christ is the bride of Christ. Think about this: in Rom. 8:14, 23; Gal. 3:36, 4:6 and Eph. 1:5 we are told we are sons of God with all the privileges God provides.
My friends, we cannot be sons and a bride.
The "bride of the Lamb is believing Israelites.


So Paul must have wrote this, to these Gentile Christians by mistake?

“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Ephesians 5:31-32


My friends, we cannot be sons and a bride.

Please post the scripture you are referring to, that teaches us because we are children of God, we can not be His Bride.

Most scriptures that refer to sons of God, refer to God's offspring or children, rather than just the male.

  • There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

Angels are called sons of God, what gender are they?

But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Luke 20:35-36


I think we will be surprised at what the Lord has for those who are faithful to Him.




JLB
 
I don't see that the Church Body of Christ is the bride of Christ.
2Co 11:2 I feel a divine jealousy for you, for I betrothed you to Christ to present you as a pure bride to her one husband.
Eph 5:31-32 "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."
This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church;
 
So Paul must have wrote this, to these Gentile Christians by mistake?

“For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Ephesians 5:31-32




Please post the scripture you are referring to, that teaches us because we are children of God, we can not be His Bride.

Most scriptures that refer to sons of God, refer to God's offspring or children, rather than just the male.

  • There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

Angels are called sons of God, what gender are they?

But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Luke 20:35-36


I think we will be surprised at what the Lord has for those who are faithful to Him.




JLB

Good catch, Brother! and a very good point. My point however, was that we are not all the Bride within the body of Christ. I have to keep reminding myself of that because it seems to be a so-called common knowledge to most folks that, well of course we are all the Bride of Christ. That's not true. I do believe that the gentiles can also be the Bride of Christ because the Jews would not come to the first marriage supper so it was at that point that the Gentiles got invited, and the Marriage supper of the Lamb got postponed until the fullness of the Gentiles is come in...
Matthew 22:2-13
2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.../

We need a wedding garment first though, to be the Bride. Is there any scriptures on how one obtains a wedding garment?
 
We need a wedding garment first though, to be the Bride. Is there any scriptures on how one obtains a wedding garment?
Edward, As a Born again believer, are you really asking this question because you do not know? You come dressed in the wedding garment by accepting the invitation (or the calling of God) (Matt. 22:2-3), Not by self worth or willed righteousness (Matt. 22:11-13).
You must be born again.
 
Edward, As a Born again believer, are you really asking this question because you do not know?

Yes. Most scriptures which tell us to do this or that will have supporting scriptures somewhere else. Like for example one scripture says one will receive the crown of life if he loves the Lord (James 1:12), then in another scripture says it is he who keeps my commandments is the one who loves me.
 
Yes. Most scriptures which tell us to do this or that will have supporting scriptures somewhere else. Like for example one scripture says one will receive the crown of life if he loves the Lord (James 1:12), then in another scripture says it is he who keeps my commandments is the one who loves me.
The Scriptures are not a script that you follow by carnal mastery. The Scriptures are a conformation of the new man's nature in us. Something to compare to the renewing of the mind and thoughts anew. You can not command a man to love the lord by the nature of the Adamic man. But to command a born again believer to Love the Lord is to magnify the love already indwelling by the new man in Christ in us. You must be born again.
 
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