The Church

[Elijah674]

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Well young'in, you know how to kill the CHURCH thread it seems?? Anyway, here is another thought on todays last day prophesied 'church's' as 'i' see them... (and NO, No debate, just 'Inspired facts')


The question was asked by another: How Should A Christian View The Law?, What Do You Think?

Christians years ago believed that to be IN CHRIST (Rom. 8:1) meant to OBEY the One that they LOVED! (Acts 5:32) They never as a rule thought that the Law (the Ten COMMANDMENTS Heb. 13:20) saved them. They knew that ONLY Christ could do that! Acts 4:12. But OBEYING the One that they LOVED told of their sincerity!

OK: Now we come to Hosea 4:6 & the [INCREASED] Truth that we last day Christians are TO ACCEPT or are to be REJECTED! And who that LOVES Christ, would REJECT HIS WORD??

We find that James 2:8-12 takes the Christian right back TO CHRIST'S EPISTLE of 2 Cor. 3:3! His LOVE LETTER FOR THE WHOLE UNIVERSE EVEN!! And that I am STILL SAVED BY BELIEVING IN & ON CHRIST, (Heb. 11:13 NO OTHER WAY!) but the thought now is the same as before, it is NOT CHRISTS LOVE THAT IS THE QUESTION... but that of MY LOVE FOR HIM!!! Is it HOT OR 'LUKEWARM'???

OK: So this Hosea verse finds ALL OF THIS LAST DAY TRUTH AGAIN WITH A 'MIDNIGHT CRY' + an 'FINALLY [ALL] AWAKENED 10 Virgin Fold! [HIS OWN WHO WERE ALL SLEEPING!!]

SO: Now what has this Truth [DOCUMENTED] for us Christians??? And If not?? we will be SPEWED OUT! Or to REJECT this LAST DAY KNOWLEDGE wil find CHRIST REJECTING ME! (Rev. 3:16 + Hosea 4:6)

The Broadway ones + ALL of these ones of Rev. 17:5 (daughters as well!) are what CHRIST AGAIN DOCUMENTS THEM AS.. [THE ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH!] Why?? You mostly ALL KNOW WHY! You came as a 'blind' but sincere church out of satans mother world church, & for well past the 120 years of Gen. 6:3's STRIVING OF THE HOLY SPIRITS along beside Noah the preacher of Christ's Rightousness (EPISTLE!) you too have not as these denominations, MOVED ONE FRACTION OF AN INCH FURTHER! In fact, you are so HARDENED to the Holy Spirits Rom. 8:14 LEADING that today the ones who you are of.. MAKE EVERY KIND OF satanic excuse for NOT REMEMBERING THE LORDS [BLESSED], [SET ASIDE FOR HOLY USE], [SANCTIFIED 7th DAY SABBATH]!!

And what is even now seen?? it is the many daughter's of the great whore.. with NO TWO hardly agreeing on any thing much as before.. at their start years ago as PROTESTANTS, they now try to get get ride of the whole Eternal Covenant just because of the ONE REMEMBER COMMANDMENT (Dan. 7:25) And About every Jude WIND of False doctrine is tossed out from satan, Yet, the real Truth is that when even breaks one Commandment, HE IS GUILTY OF BREAKING THEM [ALL]! (again James 2:8-12)

Which means that ALL of these churchs given this Hosea Last Day Increased Knowledge do not only.. not have Christ, but most do asuredly reject HIS 7th DAY SABBATH! Simply put.. [HE SAYS] 'IF YE LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS'. And most wiggle every way but loose! See Rev. 12:17 for whose Eternal Covenant these ones are REJECTING!

And the Lord asked way back in Eccl. 3:15.. What is NEW? and then He answered Himself with NOTHING!! And by the way.. THIS IS THE WHOLE CHURCH SEEN HERE IN! Rev. 2:5 & Rev. 3:16.

--Elijah

 

[TheCatholic]

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The topic is "The Church":

What ARE we allowed to say?

 

[Elijah674]

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The topic is "The Church":

What ARE we allowed to say?

Just a question perhaps?? The church has rules & laws right? And surely we have been taught that 'most' CHURCH'S BELIEVE IN RELIGOUS LIBERTY, with USA Constitutional rights?

And the forum is not a church, or is it??? but it rules as they wish. I have NO problem with that, but it seems as if I am one of some here seeing the BELIEF IN LIBERTY having gone by, by?

--Elijah

 

[TheCatholic]

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The topic is "The Church":

What ARE we allowed to say?

Just a question perhaps?? The church has rules & laws right? And surely we have been taught that 'most' CHURCH'S BELIEVE IN RELIGOUS LIBERTY, with USA Constitutional rights?

And the forum is not a church, or is it??? but it rules as they wish. I have NO problem with that, but it seems as if I am one of some here seeing the BELIEF IN LIBERTY having gone by, by?

--Elijah

Read these for my POV:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p2.htm
http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

 

[Cornelius]

The topic is "The Church":

What ARE we allowed to say?

Anything BUT about the RCC. We want to talk about the whole church, which is not about A "church"

 

[TheCatholic]

The topic is "The Church":

What ARE we allowed to say?

Anything BUT about the RCC...........

Bigotry

Fear of truth

 

[Elijah674]

Elijah here again. This was a post that was put on this site quite a number of years back, if I recollect corectly? Typo might still be around here perhaps? with another name as myself. I go by Elijah these days. But THE CHURCH is the subject, with its order. See Psalms 77:13 & Acts 7:38. + Sanctuary, Temple, CANDELSTICK, or whatever else discribed Christ's Virgin Fold! Even consider David in Psalms 69:21-22's Inspiration of Tabel for where we are to be spiritually fed & Trap!?? (Fed at Church & the Church will become a Trap??? )
And NOTICE Mods, that NO CHURCH IS MENTIONED BY NAME.. yet! ( :halo ?? )
(slightly altered)

P/N/B here: Typo, several thoughts of scripture come into mind with these question you ask on down. Surely the 'damnable heresy' must be met. But it was referring to a virgin fold first I think in this chapter of 1 Tim. 5. And 2 Peter 2:1 as outsiders [and] among you.

Gal. 2:11-13 Would get us into trouble on a forum if we did what Paul did. No one would understand as to why he did not do as Christ told us to do, by going to the individual in person, alone! Yet, Peter never made excuse, he realized he was flat out wrong, and that this was done in a crowd of people, & that it need addressing in this same crowd to be set straight! But, who even knows what I have said, huh? And surely there should be understood the difference between a forum & a fold that is supposed to be kept pure, and with the keys of heavenly Zion's earthly 'fold' in/trusted to it. Matt. 18:15-18. (Conditional surely!)

You say: "Do you think the writer of a ‘damnable heresy’ should be openly rebuked as in 1 Tim 5:20 or quietly corrected while hiding a multitude of sin as in James 5:19-20 or marked and avoided like Romans 16:17? These beliefs are bound up deep in our hearts and emotions can be stirred by any attempt to dislodge them, whether they are right or wrong. Love covers a multitude of sin so Ephesians 4:14 and 1 Tim 1:5 is the way to go no matter which option is taken, I guess. " (Me here again, who did Paul & Peter love most, the crowd, or Peter & his feelings??) Again, this same crowd might not ever be gathered together again, so the rebuke was needed at this time.

Now we come to another thought of Titus 3:8-11. I try to follow this as nearly as possible on an individual basis. But on a forum, there are many folk listening to error. And rather than responding to a person's name that is posting this, I try to avoid this if I believe that he or they are an Abomination of the earth with their postings! But I do feel that it must be exposed!

That brings us back inside a 'fold'?? What now? First, I never would baptize any one that did not believe in the teachings of Matt. 28:18-20. Notice verse 20!
But, if one was inside, and in the membership, then again Matt. 18:15-18 must be followed if anything evil should surface. These are the Words of Christ, huh! Again, we are to be in the FOLD that is trying to reclaim, not destroy! But when James 1:15 is seen to be OPEN PRESUMPTUOUS SIN, it needs to be dealt with for all sakes, even the person involved.

Now again: If the 'fold itself' [CHURCH] will not follow the Commandment's of Christ, both the Testimony & the Everlasting Covenant of Isaiah 8:20? Then they will be removed by God Himself and another candlestick put in it's place. Rev. 2:5, see chapter 1:20. Or Matt. 23:38 or Rev. 3:9 or Rev. 3:16-17 SPEWED OUT ONES! *And see Rev. 17:5 again in caps!

Yet, still, if there be no organization, there is NO EVERLASTING GOSPEL! Rev. 14:6 The Lord will not come back for a bunch of LOOSE CANNONS that would just start up 'in time' another rebellion all over again in heaven!!Nah. 1:9