The Deity of Christ: His Person

[Oscar3]

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Pardon me? What does this mean then?

"This, then, is how you should pray: " 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.' For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

iT MEANS EXACTLY what it says. But because Jesus is not your God, This prayer would not be anything to you.
We are to pray to God the father, Through God the Holy Spirit, In the name Of Jesus the Son of God who by the way is God. See how nicely the trinity fits in?

 

[destiny]

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oscar3 wrote:


Destiny
By your logic as Golfjack said, all those cults who clearly believe in a false Gospel would be saved and we know this is not true. To believe in a Jesus as Mutz and I am guessing you as well, a Jesus who is not God wuld be another Jesus AKA another Gospel. Now if you want to encourage someone who to follow a false Jesus, then you too will sit on the white thrown judgment seat. I read the entire thread that Imajic started to try and disprove that Jesus is God and clearly he LOST THAT DEBATE because he had no foundation because to believe in a false Gospel is to believe in the devil for your salvation. Listen Close
only God can forgive sins. Jesus said this himself when he healed the crippled man before He / Jesus / AKA God healed him.

Jesus also said. Lord Lord, Did we not prophecy in your name.
what did Jesus say to them?????

Destiny
Even though I don't post much I read alot and I used to have a lot of repect for you. You need to repent of your false encouragement of following this false Gospel.



Yes. Jesus because he is God was the perfect atonement for me. Because he is God he could forgive my sins,

Could your FALSE Jesus do this Destiny and Mutzrien

You know as well as I do that the mormons have their own prophet and its NOT Jesus Christ, so stop trying to make it sound like the ones who believe in the Jesus of the BIble are in the same catagory as the cults.
You should also know that anyone who believes that Jesus is the way of salvation also has enough common logic to assume He is deity, not just a man.
Personally I believe that Jesus is to be worshiped and believed on as God, I have no doubt about His supremacy ...yet He is seperate in person from the Father.
I think for anyone to assume they have a corner on the Godhead and can point fingers at those who are simply believing Jesus Christ for their salvation are FULL of religious spirits and need to repent and get right with God themselves.
There are alot of people out there who believe just like mutzrein does, I challenge you to walk around your church and ask questions in a non-confrontational way and see what kind of answers you get.
There are some on this forum who believe that way too but aren't going to put themselves in a postion to be called an unbeliever.
Theres an awful lot of people in mainstream denominations that believe trinitarians are in error when it comes to the Godhead.
You need to do some homework instead of persecuting believers of the Lord Jesus Christ.
I said it before and i'll say it again ...the body of Christ can't even discern it's own.

 

[mutzrein]

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Destiny
By your logic as Golfjack said, all those cults who clearly believe in a false Gospel would be saved and we know this is not true. To believe in a Jesus as Mutz and I am guessing you as well, a Jesus who is not God wuld be another Jesus AKA another Gospel. Now if you want to encourage someone who to follow a false Jesus, then you too will sit on the white thrown judgment seat. I read the entire thread that Imajic started to try and disprove that Jesus is God and clearly he LOST THAT DEBATE because he had no foundation because to believe in a false Gospel is to believe in the devil for your salvation. Listen Close
only God can forgive sins. Jesus said this himself when he healed the crippled man before He / Jesus / AKA God healed him.

Jesus also said. Lord Lord, Did we not prophecy in your name.
what did Jesus say to them?????

Destiny
Even though I don't post much I read alot and I used to have a lot of repect for you. You need to repent of your false encouragement of following this false Gospel.

Even though you weren't responding to me, you mentioned me so I hope you don’t mind me taking the liberty of asking a question.

Who is this false Jesus you are talking about that I believe in?

Lets start with this. In a nutshell, this is what I believe:
Jesus is the one and only true Son of God, conceived of God’s Spirit, born of a virgin, inheriting the righteousness of God with all the attributes of perfection, attributed to the Father, and without sin or blemish. To Jesus alone has the title been credited: ‘The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.’

Which cults teach this?

 

[destiny]

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Even though you weren't responding to me, you mentioned me so I hope you don’t mind me taking the liberty of asking a question.

Who is this false Jesus you are talking about that I believe in?

Lets start with this. In a nutshell, this is what I believe:
Jesus is the one and only true Son of God, conceived of God’s Spirit, born of a virgin, inheriting the righteousness of God with all the attributes of perfection, attributed to the Father, and without sin or blemish. To Jesus alone has the title been credited: ‘The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.’

Which cults teach this?

Anyone who can call you unsaved after what you confessed mutzrein, needs to repent and ask God for forgivence. I'm very serious about that.

 

[mutzrein]

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iT MEANS EXACTLY what it says. But because Jesus is not your God, This prayer would not be anything to you.
We are to pray to God the father, Through God the Holy Spirit, In the name Of Jesus the Son of God who by the way is God. See how nicely the trinity fits in?

You missed the point. golfjack said only God can forgive sins. This passage indicates that our sins are forgiven as we forgive others.

So by my reading (and I am one of these pedantic critters) it is NECESSARY for us to forgive sins in order that ours be forgiven.

 

[jgredline]

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You missed the point. golfjack said only God can forgive sins. This passage indicates that our sins are forgiven as we forgive others.

So by my reading (and I am one of these pedantic critters) it is NECESSARY for us to forgive sins in order that ours be forgiven.

Mutz
I don't have a lot of time to address this right now.
I will say a couple of things.

First look at the context of the Lords prayer.
Where you ppointed out '' as we forgive others'' This is refering to sins commited against us. We can forgive sins commited against us and us alone. NO ONE CAN forgive any sins commited against anybody else and especially the Lord. Only God can forgive sins commited against His body and him.

Mutz. You took that part of scripture out of context. Let me know if you need more exposition.

 

[mutzrein]

JG - perhaps we should wait for golfjack to respond, since it was to him that my comment was originally made.

I suspect golfjack was trying to get at something else. What I was attempting to do was to clarify what exactly that was.

You see, I see 'sin' from two different perspectives.

1 The state of sin that man is born into, and
2 An action on man's part that is outside of faith

golf jack . . . where are you . . .?

 

[AVBunyan]

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Jesus is the one and only true Son of God, conceived of God’s Spirit, born of a virgin, inheriting the righteousness of God with all the attributes of perfection, attributed to the Father, and without sin or blemish. Which cults teach this?

Just wondering - do you believe Jesus was God manifest in the flesh?

Thanks

 

[jgredline]

Mutz
Your right. Sorry for hijacking the question.

 

[golfjack]

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Mutz, I don't know if I understand your question. What do you mean by man's action outside of faith? I will try my best to answer your question. Could you be talking about How extreme Calvanism views Salvation?



May God bless, golfjack

 

[D46]

1+1+1 is adding value to the equation, this is why it's called logically enough "adding." 1X anything is the same value. Man with our little wisdom can not phantom the thought of a Trinity God. 1x1x1 = 1

I think this pretty much sums it up. The mathmatical 1 raised to the third power will always be one. God made man a true trinity...that is, three in one-body, soul and spirit. But, he did not give each man three bodies, neither has God three bodies nor three spearate and distinct persons.

When you look at someone, you see only one person, their soul and spirit are invisible, The fullness of the Godhead bodily dwells in Jesus.

Colossians 1:15 (KJV) Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

John 1:18 (KJV) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 14:7 (KJV) If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Do these last two scriptures conflict? Not in the least. Jesus was the image of the invisible God. As a matter of fact, Hebrews 1:3 calls Jesus the "express image his person." Just as one can look at a man and not see his soul, they could look at Jesus and not see the innermost being of God and yet be looking a the express image of God's person. Jesus was God manifest in the flesh as the scriptures declare.

A question often asked is ,who was God talking to when he said, "Let us make man"...

Genesis 1:26 (KJV) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Then look at Isaiah 40:13-14...and, 43:10..

Isaiah 40:13-14 (KJV) Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him? With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding?

Isaiah 43:10 (KJV) Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

The suggestion that God had any help or consultation in the creation is an insult to his Deity. Paul clearly gives an answer in Ephesians 1:11...

Ephesians 1:11 (KJV) In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

When God said "let us make man...", he was counciling with His own will. If someone says God was counseling with a second person in a holy trinity, that puts that person in an unfavorable scriptural light. Look at Isaiah 40:13 again.

If the definition of Trinitarianism is one that indicates three persons, separate and distinct in the Godhead then, it is inconsistent and illogical in that it creates the paradox of having divine person number one (the Father) and divine person number three (the Holy Ghost) both the father of divine person number two (Jesus). As Atonment pointed out, we can't really fathom all this in our human understanding but, we can be sure there is but one God and that God's name is Jesus.

 

[Oscar3]

av
mUTZ believes that Jesus is a creature, Not God

 

[scorpia]

So how do you know this stuff scorpia? Did God reveal it to you or did you read it in the bible?

How many times do I have to tell you that we learn directly from the Lord God Jesus Christ just as Paul did also learn directly from Him. We do not learn from the bible because the bible is only a book of testimony to the reality of the existence of the Lord the Lord himself is the One who teaches His believers, not the bible.

 

[mutzrein]

av
mUTZ believes that Jesus is a creature, Not God

Oscar - Please don't misrepresent me. Show me once where I have EVER said that Jesus is a creature.

If you must represent what you think I believe I suggest you start with the things I HAVE said.

Thanks.

BTW - I have taken no offense at this but please don't lump me in with others who perhaps believe Jesus is a creature and therefore ALSO say that Jesus is not God.


If you don't agree, fine but don't come to your own conclusions as to what my statements mean without that knowledge.

 

[mutzrein]

How many times do I have to tell you that we learn directly from the Lord God Jesus Christ just as Paul did also learn directly from Him. We do not learn from the bible because the bible is only a book of testimony to the reality of the existence of the Lord the Lord himself is the One who teaches His believers, not the bible.

The reason I ask, scorpia, is this. You claim to have certain knowledge and revelation apart from the bible. But you also accept the bible is a book of testimony to the reality of the existence of the Lord.

Now if you accept the validity of some of the ‘testimony’ of the bible, why do you not, for example, accept the validity of what is taught within it’s pages by the prophets, Jesus and the apostles?

And so this question also begs to be asked. If you are taught by God, rather than scripture, how did you come to the conclusion that Jesus is God?

 

[scorpia]

The reason I ask, scorpia, is this. You claim to have certain knowledge and revelation apart from the bible. But you also accept the bible is a book of testimony to the reality of the existence of the Lord.

The Lord God teaches that the bible is a book of testimony to the REALITY OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE LORD for us people to call on and come to God and not to have the bible as our manual of knowing God. The Lord said that we people would never know which from those that are already written in the bible are right or wrong except we come to God himself and let Him be the One to teach us about the TRUTH in the bible, hence the Lord uses the word "testimony to the REALITY OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE LORD".

Now if you accept the validity of some of the ‘testimony’ of the bible, why do you not, for example, accept the validity of what is taught within it’s pages by the prophets, Jesus and the apostles?

Why would I when the Lord God Jesus Christ teaches today that He, the Lord Jesus, is the One who will teach us all the TRUTHS in the bible, He is the One who will confirm to us which is right and which is wrong in the bible on condition that we must call on and come to Jesus himself and have Him as our Good Pastor and Teacher not only in the bible but of all things. Would there be anything much better than this one that the Lord is offering to us right now?

Only those that the Lord is telling us to treat as right in the bible will be the ones that we do accept its validity but for those which the Lord says are not, why would we also?

And so this question also begs to be asked. If you are taught by God, rather than scripture, how did you come to the conclusion that Jesus is God?

Simply the Lord God said to us that His name from the very beginning is Jesus and He informed the seventeen people that He created from the very start that Jesus is His name and that no one from among them may use the name Jesus in naming their offspring and their offsrings' offsprings. The Lord God said to us that He was the One who dwelt/came/lived inside the body born of Mary. The Lord told us the He was the One inside that physical body which many people had mistaken as Jesus. Jesus is the Almighty God while the child born of Mary is only a human being like us, the only difference is that same was created by the HS in the womb of Mary and the Lord God dwelt His fullness in that body for more or less 33 years.

See this teaching from the Lord about himself.

“Whosoever sought Me, just call and I will acknowledgeâ€Â
1. SAAN BA NAGSIMULA ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY DITO SA MUNDO?
1. TO WHERE DID ALL THE THINGS IN THIS WORLD BEGIN?
*** NAGSIMULA ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY DITO SA MUNDO NANG
*** ALL THE THINGS IN THIS WORLD BEGAN WHEN
LIKHAIN NG DIYOS NA MAKAPANGYARIHAN SA LAHAT ANG SANLIBUTAN.
THE ALMIGHTY GOD CREATED THE WORLD.

2. SINO BA ANG DIYOS?
2. WHO THE GOD IS ?
***ANG DIYOS ANG SIYANG MAKAPANGYARIHAN SA LAHAT. SA
*** THE GOD IS HIMSELF THE ALMIGHTY WITH
KANYA AY WALANG IMPOSIBLE. SA KANYA NAGMULA ANG LAHAT NG
HIM NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH HIM BEGAN ALL OF
MGA BAGAY AT ANG BUHAY NA TINATAGLAY NG LAHAT NG TAO. SA
THE THINGS AND THE LIFE POSSESES BY ALL PEOPLE WITH
KANYA RIN NAGMULA ANG KABUTIHAN AT KASAMAAN, KALIWANAGAN
HIM ALSO BEGAN THE GOODNESS AND THE BADNESS, LIGHTNESS
AT KADILIMAN. WALANG TAONG KAYANG MABUHAY SA MUNDO NA
AND DARKNESS NO MAN CAN LIVE A LIFE IN THE WORLD IF
HINDI SA PAMAMAGITAN NIYA. SIYA ANG NAGKATAWANG TAO AT
NOT BY HIM HE WHO TOOK THE FORM OF THE FLESH AND
MULING MAGBABALIK SA PAGHUHUKOM. SIYA ANG BUHAY AT
WILL AGAIN COME BACK IN THE JUDGMENT HE IS THE LIFE AND
KAMATAYAN, ANG SIMULA AT ANG WAKAS, ANG DAAN, KATOTOHANAN,
DEATH, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE WAY, TRUTH,
KALIGTASAN, KAPATAWARAN AT SIYA ANG LAHAT LAHAT.
SALVATION, FORGIVENESS AND HE IS ALL OF ALL.
3. SAAN NAGMULA ANG DIYOS?
3. WHERE DID THE GOD EMANATES?
***WALANG NAKAKAALAM KUNG SAAN NAGMULA ANG DIYOS.
***NONE KNOWS IF WHERE DID GOD EMANATES

TANGING ANG DIYOS LANG ANG MAKAKASAGOT SA KATANUNGAN
ONLY THE GOD CAN ANSWER TO THE QUERY.
4. BAKIT SINASABING TATLO ANG DIYOS?
4. WHY DOES IT SAY THAT THE GOD IS THREE?
***IISA LANG ANG DIYOS, NGUNIT GAYA NG MGA TAO, KUNG ANG
***GOD IS ONLY ONE, BUT SAME WITH THE PEOPLE, IF A
ISANG TAO AY MAY PANGALANG JOSE, SIYA RIN AY MAY PALAYAW
ONE MAN HAS A NAME OF JOSEPH, HE MAY ALSO HAS A NICKNAME
MAAARING JUSENG, USE O KUNG ANU ANO PA. GAYON LAMANG DIN ANG
MAYBE JOSHUENG, USHE OR WHATEVER IT IS SAME IS ALSO WITH THE
DIYOS. ANG AMA, ANAK AT ESPIRITU SANTO AY IISA LAMANG, ANG
GOD, THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONLY ONE, THE
DIYOS NA MAKAPANGYARIHAN SA LAHAT. TINAWAG NIYANG ANAK
ALMIGHTY GOD CALLED SON
ANG NAGKATAWANG TAO SA LUPA UPANG TUBUSIN ANG MGA
THE ONE WHO TOOK THE FORM OF THE FLESH IN THE EARTH TO REDEEM THE
KASALANAN NG TAO, TINAWAG NAMAN NIYANG ESPIRITU SANTO ANG
SINS OF THE PEOPLE, HE THEN CALLED HOLY SPIRIT THE
GABAY SA MGA TAO. SAPAGKAT SA TAONG MABABAW ANG KAISIPAN,
GUIDE TO THE PEOPLE BECAUSE TO THE PEOPLE WITH A SHALLOW MIND
HINDI SIYA MANINIWALANG ANG DIYOS AY NASA LAHAT NG PANIG NG
HE WILL NEVER BELIEVE THAT THE GOD IS IN ALL THE PARTS OF
SANSINUKOB, KAYA’T BINIGYAN NIYA NG PANGALAN ANG ANAK AT
WHOLE WORLD, HENCE HE GAVE NAMES TO THE SON AND
ESPIRITU SANTO NGUNIT INISIP NAMAN NG IBA NA TATLO ANG DIYOS.
THE HOLY SPIRIT BUT OTHER THINK THAT THE GOD ARE THREE.

 

[Solo]

Simply the Lord God said to us that His name from the very beginning is Jesus and He informed the seventeen people that He created from the very start that Jesus is His name and that no one from among them may use the name Jesus in naming their offspring and their offsrings' offsprings. The Lord God said to us that He was the One who dwelt/came/lived inside the body born of Mary. The Lord told us the He was the One inside that physical body which many people had mistaken as Jesus. Jesus is the Almighty God while the child born of Mary is only a human being like us, the only difference is that same was created by the HS in the womb of Mary and the Lord God dwelt His fullness in that body for more or less 33 years.

See this teaching from the Lord about himself.

“Whosoever sought Me, just call and I will acknowledgeâ€Â
1. SAAN BA NAGSIMULA ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY DITO SA MUNDO?
1. TO WHERE DID ALL THE THINGS IN THIS WORLD BEGIN?
*** NAGSIMULA ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY DITO SA MUNDO NANG
*** ALL THE THINGS IN THIS WORLD BEGAN WHEN
LIKHAIN NG DIYOS NA MAKAPANGYARIHAN SA LAHAT ANG SANLIBUTAN.
THE ALMIGHTY GOD CREATED THE WORLD.

2. SINO BA ANG DIYOS?
2. WHO THE GOD IS ?
***ANG DIYOS ANG SIYANG MAKAPANGYARIHAN SA LAHAT. SA
*** THE GOD IS HIMSELF THE ALMIGHTY WITH
KANYA AY WALANG IMPOSIBLE. SA KANYA NAGMULA ANG LAHAT NG
HIM NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH HIM BEGAN ALL OF
MGA BAGAY AT ANG BUHAY NA TINATAGLAY NG LAHAT NG TAO. SA
THE THINGS AND THE LIFE POSSESES BY ALL PEOPLE WITH
KANYA RIN NAGMULA ANG KABUTIHAN AT KASAMAAN, KALIWANAGAN
HIM ALSO BEGAN THE GOODNESS AND THE BADNESS, LIGHTNESS
AT KADILIMAN. WALANG TAONG KAYANG MABUHAY SA MUNDO NA
AND DARKNESS NO MAN CAN LIVE A LIFE IN THE WORLD IF
HINDI SA PAMAMAGITAN NIYA. SIYA ANG NAGKATAWANG TAO AT
NOT BY HIM HE WHO TOOK THE FORM OF THE FLESH AND
MULING MAGBABALIK SA PAGHUHUKOM. SIYA ANG BUHAY AT
WILL AGAIN COME BACK IN THE JUDGMENT HE IS THE LIFE AND
KAMATAYAN, ANG SIMULA AT ANG WAKAS, ANG DAAN, KATOTOHANAN,
DEATH, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, THE WAY, TRUTH,
KALIGTASAN, KAPATAWARAN AT SIYA ANG LAHAT LAHAT.
SALVATION, FORGIVENESS AND HE IS ALL OF ALL.
3. SAAN NAGMULA ANG DIYOS?
3. WHERE DID THE GOD EMANATES?
***WALANG NAKAKAALAM KUNG SAAN NAGMULA ANG DIYOS.
***NONE KNOWS IF WHERE DID GOD EMANATES

TANGING ANG DIYOS LANG ANG MAKAKASAGOT SA KATANUNGAN
ONLY THE GOD CAN ANSWER TO THE QUERY.
4. BAKIT SINASABING TATLO ANG DIYOS?
4. WHY DOES IT SAY THAT THE GOD IS THREE?
***IISA LANG ANG DIYOS, NGUNIT GAYA NG MGA TAO, KUNG ANG
***GOD IS ONLY ONE, BUT SAME WITH THE PEOPLE, IF A
ISANG TAO AY MAY PANGALANG JOSE, SIYA RIN AY MAY PALAYAW
ONE MAN HAS A NAME OF JOSEPH, HE MAY ALSO HAS A NICKNAME
MAAARING JUSENG, USE O KUNG ANU ANO PA. GAYON LAMANG DIN ANG
MAYBE JOSHUENG, USHE OR WHATEVER IT IS SAME IS ALSO WITH THE
DIYOS. ANG AMA, ANAK AT ESPIRITU SANTO AY IISA LAMANG, ANG
GOD, THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT IS ONLY ONE, THE
DIYOS NA MAKAPANGYARIHAN SA LAHAT. TINAWAG NIYANG ANAK
ALMIGHTY GOD CALLED SON
ANG NAGKATAWANG TAO SA LUPA UPANG TUBUSIN ANG MGA
THE ONE WHO TOOK THE FORM OF THE FLESH IN THE EARTH TO REDEEM THE
KASALANAN NG TAO, TINAWAG NAMAN NIYANG ESPIRITU SANTO ANG
SINS OF THE PEOPLE, HE THEN CALLED HOLY SPIRIT THE
GABAY SA MGA TAO. SAPAGKAT SA TAONG MABABAW ANG KAISIPAN,
GUIDE TO THE PEOPLE BECAUSE TO THE PEOPLE WITH A SHALLOW MIND
HINDI SIYA MANINIWALANG ANG DIYOS AY NASA LAHAT NG PANIG NG
HE WILL NEVER BELIEVE THAT THE GOD IS IN ALL THE PARTS OF
SANSINUKOB, KAYA’T BINIGYAN NIYA NG PANGALAN ANG ANAK AT
WHOLE WORLD, HENCE HE GAVE NAMES TO THE SON AND
ESPIRITU SANTO NGUNIT INISIP NAMAN NG IBA NA TATLO ANG DIYOS.
THE HOLY SPIRIT BUT OTHER THINK THAT THE GOD ARE THREE.

Scorpia,
What language are you using in this post, and why are you not using the Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic?

Also do you believe that Jesus was resurrected from the dead and ascended bodily into heaven. What is Jesus today, body or spirit? Where do you receive your teachings from?

 

[airdrop]

It almost looks like Latin...but I don't know.

...and He informed the seventeen people that He created...

What is Scorpia talking about? What 17 people??

 

[scorpia]

Scorpia,
What language are you using in this post,

Generally, English but with some of the messages of the Lord, it is in its original language used by the Lord to us, Tagalog, a Pilipino dialect.

and why are you not using the Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic?

Why would we when the Lord God Jesus Christ speaks to us in clear Tagalog language? God is no respector of language nor of people, isn't God?

Also do you believe that Jesus was resurrected from the dead and ascended bodily into heaven.

It was the body born of Mary that was the one who met death on the cross and not Jesus himself who is the Almighty Lord God who only dwelt/inhabited inside that body. That body born of Mary is now kept inside NOah's ark hidden somewhere in the middle east together with the body of Moses. Jesus is always in heaven and always here in the whole world at the same time for He is God. God never dies nor sleep at any point in time.

What is Jesus today, body or spirit?

Jesus is always the Almighty Lord God of all ages (yesterday, today, and forever) spirit being and to Him nothing is impossible.

Where do you receive your teachings from?

From the Lord God Jesus Christ just as Paul did also receive from Him.

 

[scorpia]

It almost looks like Latin...but I don't know.

It is a Tagalog language, one of the many Philippine dialects.

What is Scorpia talking about? What 17 people??

The Lord said that one of what was not written in the bible of today is the fact that He, the Lord God, created seventeen people from the start, they were created men and women and Adam and Eve were among them, one of them was a giant. This is the reason why Cain was able to find his wife when he was told to leave their place and, also, the reason why did God give him a mark for people not to harm of kill him.