Understanding the obedience of faith.

[Eternally-grateful]

Yes if someone says they have faith, but do not have works…

You did it again

Your not focusing on the correct part.

James did nto say they had faith, THEY DID They claimed they had faith. But the fact they did not love out what they said they trusted in proved they did not have faith to begin with.

You seem to have missed that part.

No. Your missing the part. your focused on works. not the fact James never said they had any faith at all

What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?
James 2:14

yes. What does it prophet if they say they have faith..

Nothing, if you do not have faith, Your dead. lost. without hope. even demons believe

Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
James 2:15

It’s not that they are claiming to have faith, and don’t have it.

The truth the scripture is plainly teaching is the faith they have is dead, if they don’t have works.

Their faith, the received from God is dead, dormant, inactive and unable to save.

The “work” James is referring to as he brings us to his point is obedience; the obedience of faith.

Abraham, obeyed when God told him to sacrifice his son on the altar.



JLB

lol.. Yet you can sit there with a straight face and say your not teaching a works based salvation.

How many of these chatrooms are you going to spread this stuff too, Is one not enough?

 

[Eternally-grateful]

I never mentioned “works of faith” I mentioned the obedience of faith.

Obedience is works. if your doing works of obedience to earn salvation. it is called works of merit

Example:

At the preaching of the Gospel a person must obey the Gospel to be saved.

Yes.

Call out on the name of the lord and you will be saved.

period

Do you disagree?

With your works based gospel? yes

 

[JLB]

Obedience is works. if your doing works of obedience to earn salvation. it is called works of merit

So you believe “confessing with your mouth Jesus as Lord” a work?