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The Solar System is about 4.6 billion years old, and I guess this is about the age of our nearest star, Sol or as we call it the Sun. The Sun's color is white,(though it is classed as yellow star) although from the surface of the Earth it may appear yellow because of atmospheric scattering. Its stellar classification, based on spectral class, is G2V, and is informally designated a yellow star, because the majority of its radiation is in the yellow-green portion of the visible spectrum.
Sol is about halfway through its life as it burns hydrogen fuel in thermonuclear reactions creating the energy we all need to live (we being all living things on the planet Earth).
The Sun does not have enough mass to explode as a supernova. Instead, in about 5 billion years, it will enter a red giant phase, its outer layers expanding as the hydrogen fuel in the core is consumed and the core contracts and heats up. Helium fusion will begin when the core temperature reaches around 100 million kelvins and will produce carbon, entering the asymptotic giant branch phase. At this time the Earth will have been burnt to the point where nothing could live on this remote rock in space.
reference: wikipedia
 
Isaiah 51:6
Lift up your eyes to the heavens, look at the earth beneath; the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment and its inhabitants die like flies. But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Hebrews 1:10. "In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
 
Thank you for the nice quotes but this is not science what you quoted and cannot be verified.
I think it might be more appropriate if you could comment on the science as I cannot comment on what you replied: it is out of my logic.
 
venomFGX said:
The Solar System is about 4.6 billion years old, and I guess this is about the age of our nearest star, Sol or as we call it the Sun. The Sun's color is white,(though it is classed as yellow star) although from the surface of the Earth it may appear yellow because of atmospheric scattering. Its stellar classification, based on spectral class, is G2V, and is informally designated a yellow star, because the majority of its radiation is in the yellow-green portion of the visible spectrum.
Sol is about halfway through its life as it burns hydrogen fuel in thermonuclear reactions creating the energy we all need to live (we being all living things on the planet Earth).
The Sun does not have enough mass to explode as a supernova. Instead, in about 5 billion years, it will enter a red giant phase, its outer layers expanding as the hydrogen fuel in the core is consumed and the core contracts and heats up. Helium fusion will begin when the core temperature reaches around 100 million kelvins and will produce carbon, entering the asymptotic giant branch phase. At this time the Earth will have been burnt to the point where nothing could live on this remote rock in space.
reference: wikipedia
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If I were you I would do more referencing my bible and not wikipedia. The Solar system is more like 6,000 yrs old that 4.6 billion.
 
watchman F said:
If I were you I would do more referencing my bible and not wikipedia. The Solar system is more like 6,000 yrs old that 4.6 billion.
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For about 200 years it has been taught that the creation days are literal, but before that it was taught that those days were epochs of time. Example: God said to Adam, "In the day you eat of that fruit you will surly die;" But yet Adam continued to live for hundreds of years before he died. After God had made the heavens He then later makes the earth, because the earth was not and void, and it was a formless body of water from where it was.
 
mdo757 said:
watchman F said:
If I were you I would do more referencing my bible and not wikipedia. The Solar system is more like 6,000 yrs old that 4.6 billion.
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For about 200 years it has been taught that the creation days are literal, but before that it was taught that those days were epochs of time. Example: God said to Adam, "In the day you eat of that fruit you will surly die;" But yet Adam continued to live for hundreds of years before he died. After God had made the heavens He then later makes the earth, because the earth was not and void, and it was a formless body of water from where it was.
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Adam died the second he bit into that piece of fruit. you have to know that much.
 
watchman F said:
mdo757 said:
[quote="watchman F":3ekbn60e]If I were you I would do more referencing my bible and not wikipedia. The Solar system is more like 6,000 yrs old that 4.6 billion.
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For about 200 years it has been taught that the creation days are literal, but before that it was taught that those days were epochs of time. Example: God said to Adam, "In the day you eat of that fruit you will surly die;" But yet Adam continued to live for hundreds of years before he died. After God had made the heavens He then later makes the earth, because the earth was not and void, and it was a formless body of water from where it was.
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Adam died the second he bit into that piece of fruit. you have to know that much.[/quote:3ekbn60e]
Spiritual speaking, yes. :yes
 
To deny the earth and cosmos is the age it is at 4.6 and about 14 billions years respectively is really denying knowledge and science: this is a demonstration of something quite profound in this day and age, it exists in places where people have little education, normally associated with third world countries and extremists.
If you believe in god then the evidence he put forward is in the reputable universities to peruse, if you are educated enough to understand them. However, I am sure there is a museum in Petersburg, Kentucky, that can cater to your needs where they suggest people and dinosaurs roamed together. This is not true of course. I suggest a better version of this can be found in Hollywood.
yours
VFX :crazy
 
watchman F said:
If I were you I would do more referencing my bible and not wikipedia.
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First of all I am a scientist and use wikipedia to quote on here. I put information on Wikpedia.
Why should I reference this volume for?. that is the bible. It is not a scientific book. I respect this book for what it is to give spiritual guidance but it is not a science book and not many people suggest it is. In any case where in the bible does it say the Earth is 6000 years old? Some suggest lineage of people but these were wandering nomads in the middle East and well there were more people than them around, much older and perhaps much wiser.
yours
VFX
 
Because the heavens were created before the earth was, that would mean that some of the elements that make the earth are much older than the earth it's self. :yes
 
venomFGX said:
The Solar System is about 4.6 billion years old, and I guess this is about the age of our nearest star, Sol or as we call it the Sun. The Sun's color is white,(though it is classed as yellow star) although from the surface of the Earth it may appear yellow because of atmospheric scattering. Its stellar classification, based on spectral class, is G2V, and is informally designated a yellow star, because the majority of its radiation is in the yellow-green portion of the visible spectrum.
Sol is about halfway through its life as it burns hydrogen fuel in thermonuclear reactions creating the energy we all need to live (we being all living things on the planet Earth).
The Sun does not have enough mass to explode as a supernova. Instead, in about 5 billion years, it will enter a red giant phase, its outer layers expanding as the hydrogen fuel in the core is consumed and the core contracts and heats up. Helium fusion will begin when the core temperature reaches around 100 million kelvins and will produce carbon, entering the asymptotic giant branch phase. At this time the Earth will have been burnt to the point where nothing could live on this remote rock in space.
reference: wikipedia
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Interesting.

So I guess this HAS to be right since it's on Wikipedia right?

I don't really see the point you're trying to make? The heavens existed before the earth did - there are many quotes in the Bible clearly outlining your post above, but in far simpler terms (please see the 1st reponse to your thread). Do you really think this logic or this wording would have been appropriate to use in the Bible? It would have made ZERO sense to anyone, so far simpler words were used.

I really don't get the post - maybe I'm being daft. The Bible clearly states the heavens will roll up like a carpet, and will be no more, so will the earth, and that they'll be consumed by fire. Do you see the similarity in your Wikipedia post? What is the purpose of your post? (I'm being polite here so please don't think I'm trying to discredit what you're saying :thumb ) To say how the Earth will end? Is that it? Well, considering the Bible makes MANY references to a scenario outlined by your post, I don't really see the issue.

Cheers,
Lloyd.
 
Regarding the age of the Earth question, you would be well advised to search the plentiful threads on the subject. It's been debated/argued over and over, even in the shortish time I've been on the boards.

For the record, the evidence we find in the universe is the same for both sides. We just have different interpretations of that evidence, leading us to different conclusions.
 
venomFGX said:
The Solar System is about 4.6 billion years old, and I guess this is about the age of our nearest star, Sol or as we call it the Sun.
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Our nearest star? Why do you assume we own it? Sol? Where did you ever hear it called that? That's new to me.

venomFGX said:
The Sun's color is white,(though it is classed as yellow star) although from the surface of the Earth it may appear yellow because of atmospheric scattering. Its stellar classification, based on spectral class, is G2V, and is informally designated a yellow star, because the majority of its radiation is in the yellow-green portion of the visible spectrum.
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That has to be the strangest paragraph... at least I think you were trying to form a paragraph there, I think I have ever read. You start off by saying the suns color is yellow, but every sentence that follows contradicts your initial statement.


venomFGX said:
Sol is about halfway through its life as it burns hydrogen fuel in thermonuclear reactions creating the energy we all need to live (we being all living things on the planet Earth).
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Wrong there are many living things on Earth that don't need the sun at all.
 
happyjoy said:
Our nearest star? Why do you assume we own it? Sol? Where did you ever hear it called that? That's new to me.
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No mentioned about ownership at all though I guess some country will try and claim it for their own. I mentioned that the sun in white though people often refer to it being yellow. However, it's classification is a yellow star. There is nothing contradictory at all there, just perhaps your ability to analyse the information. Apart from some tube like animals that live in the ocean all life on this planet gets their energy from the sun either directly or indirectly. I would suggest you study some basic food chains or food webs to understand the concepts.
 
venomFGX said:
happyjoy said:
Apart from some tube like animals that live in the ocean all life on this planet gets their energy from the sun either directly or indirectly. I would suggest you study some basic food chains or food webs to understand the concepts.
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You did say all life on earth not some life on earth or most life on earth. Also there are many bacteria and viruses that do not need the sun not to mention all the life that has yet to be discovered.
 
This thread doesnt seem to have anything to do with the end times that is in the bible.
Perhaps this scientist believes he will outlive the nuclear war that approaches?
If you havnt gotten a savior when that takes place then theres no need to worry about what might happen millions of years from now when all it takes is one well placed nuke to start a chain reaction that will ruin your little world.
 
There is no evidence of a nuclear war that approaches nor of any killer asteroids or anything else. There is no need to be so gloomy as though you actually want the world to end so that somehow your belief in the bible is fulfilled.
This thread has nothing to do with the bible but with the certainty of science and our knowledge of nuclear physics and astro physics. There may be extinction events like in the past and most likely will be but that has nothing to do with the bible. I do not need a saviour, but thank you for the advise. :salute
yours
VFX
 
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