The "End Times"

[Dorothy Mae]

Romans 15:1 kjv
1. We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
2. Let every one of us please hisneighbour for his good to edification.
3. For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.
4. For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

If we apply the written previous judgements (of the world) to ourselves, then it becomes personal.

eddif

With all due respect, that is merely vicariously feeling like we suffered something we did not. It is like saying that if we apply the sufferings described by those who experience war in their own towns and backyards, then it becomes our personal suffering. One needs only see the pics of the Ukraine to show up that for the falsehood it is. When God judges a nation to end a people group, we cannot pretend that this happened or happens to us and our family as well by mental exercise.

 

[eddif]

Romans 15:1 kjv
1. We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
2. Let every one of us please hisneighbour for his good to edification.
3. For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.
4. For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

If we apply the written previous judgements (of the world) to ourselves, then it becomes personal.

eddif

And a list follows 1 Corinthians 10:6 kjv
6. Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

eddif

 

[eddif]

With all due respect, that is merely vicariously feeling like we suffered something we did not. It is like saying that if we apply the sufferings described by those who experience war in their own towns and backyards, then it becomes our personal suffering. One needs only see the pics of the Ukraine to show up that for the falsehood it is. When God judges a nation to end a people group, we cannot pretend that this happened or happens to us and our family as well by mental exercise.

Is this vicarious?;
To go through prayer line and request prayer for Alice. Who just happens to be a soap opera character going through a trial in that weeks episode?
Or
To realize that except by grace we might fall into the same problems?

eddif

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Is this vicarious?;
To go through prayer line and request prayer for Alice. Who just happens to be a soap opera character going through a trial in that weeks episode?
Or
To realize that except by grace we might fall into the same problems?

eddif

Unless you are Alice, whoever that is, yes and even if your are Alice, that is nothing like the judgement of God on a people to wipe them out. Not even close.

 

[eddif]

Unless you are Alice, whoever that is, yes and even if your are Alice, that is nothing like the judgement of God on a people to wipe them out. Not even close.

Is this closer
1 Corinthians 10:7 kjv
7. Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8. Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10. Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11. Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

eddif

 

[Oseas]

A times, time, and a half of time refers to 3 1/2 years. This refers to the time of the great tribulation.
Tribulation means persecution, trouble affliction.
Who do you believe is being persecuted during the great tribulation?

Time within prophecy, can be either, "literal" or a "day for a year." Assuming you understand this, state the hermeneutic that requires, A times, time, and a half of time, to be translated as literal time, in Rev.12?

Goldwing, be sure that what JLB above wrote is true. Actually, "A times, time, and a half of time refers to 3 1/2 years. This refers to the time of the great tribulation" - that is the second half of the last week, the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27. By the way, this period of 1260 days may occur still in this decade , i. e. within of this period of 2020-2030, plus 30 days, so 1.290 days-Daniel 12:v.11. And there will be a gap of more 45 days, now 1335 days. In this future but near time, Satan - the red Dragon - will be into the bottomless pit. And the Beast of sea-the Papacy and the great whore-the Roman Catholic Church, the false Christianism, which rides upon the Beast of sea, together other satanic religions invented by the Devil, they all will be into the lake of fire, the hell's fire. In the other hand, the true people of GOD, the true believers, will reign with Christ a thousand years-Revelation 20:v.4 combined with Luke 20:v.35-36, among other references.

That said, Goldwing, you are wrong completely. You are confound 1260 24h day with the Day of LORD, the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium. What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD. 2Peter 3:v.8 - 8 But, beloved, be not IGNORANT of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years...a millennium, the millennium of GOD's reign, or GOD's Kingdom-1Corinthians 15:v.24-27 henceforwards. https://purebibleforum.com/index.ph...xactly-240-years-in-the-jewish-calendar.2354/

Acts 3:v.19 - Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out...

Be careful and get ready, for the Eternal punishment of the world of Devil has started, and is running, and it will NEVER END, but NEVER.

 

[Oseas]

yes and i dont plan on going through the great tribulation which is not for God people

The great tribulation is just ahead, right ahead, it may happen still in this current decade of 2020-2030.
Be careful and get ready, for the Eternal PUNISHMENT of the current world of Devil has started, and is running, and it will NEVER END, but NEVER.

Revelation 12:v.9-12
9 The great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was(will be) cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb - by the blood of JESUS-, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth (Jewish people) and of the sea! (sea= waters = peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues-Gentile peoples-Revelation 17:v.15), for the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

[Oseas]

Sorry to hear you await Rev 20 before you can rule and reign. Some of us were granted this back in Rev 1.

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.


"At" is subjective to a singular point in time. I think of it more so as being raise within the first resurrection, that being the resurrection of the Son.

My friend, it seems as though your stories have carried you off from simplicity that is in Christ. The temple of God: it is not some castle in the clouds. Paul informs us in the epistles that WE are the temple of God. When asked, Jesus answered saying the kingdom of heaven comes not with observation, for the kingdom is within you. Jesus, in speaking with his disciples said in my Father's House there are many mansion, and that I go to prepare a place for you. He went to prepare a place for you in your heart, and in doing so removes the stoney heart and gives you a heart of flesh, that you might know the Lord.

John 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

My Father's house is a tent, it is not some castle in the cloud. The Lord's desire has always been to dwell in the hearts of man. If you are not ruling and reigning with Christ in and as an ambassador of His Kingdom, then perhaps it is the second death the stoney heart seeks.

What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD. Around 2000 years ago Paul Apostle said: Romans 8:v.18-19:
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed (future) in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the MANIFESTATION of the sons of God.

What we see in this current time of Apocalypse is the LITERAL fulfilment of what JESUS said: Matthew 24:4-8 -
4 - ... Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

And Paul Apostle prophesied saying: 1 Timothy 4:v.1-2 -
1 - Now the Spirit - GOD is Spirit - speaketh EXPRESSLY, that in the latter times some shall depart from the FAITH, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

And JESUS said: Luke 18:v.8 - Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find FAITH on the earth?

JESUS said: Revelation 11:v. 15 - 18 (this was revealed around 65 years after His ascension - year 95A.D.)
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD (satanic world) ARE BECOME the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the NATIONS (OF THIS SATANIC WORLD) were (will be) angry, and GOD's WRATH is come (this is already running, and will for ever and ever), and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

1 Corinthians 15:v.24-27:
24 The END cometh, when He shall have delivered up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have PUT DOWN ALL RULE AND ALL AUTHORITY AND POWER.
25 For He must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The LAST ENEMY that shall be destroyed IS DEATH.

Revelation 12:v.10 - 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the KINGDOM of our GOD, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Daniel 2:v. 44-45
44 And in the days of these kings shall the GOD of heaven set up a KINGDOM, which shall never be destroyed: and the KINGDOM shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms (OF THE SATANIC WORLD OF DEVIL), and it shall stand for ever.

45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great GOD hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

Be careful and get ready, for the Eternal punishment of the CURRENT and SATANIC world of Devil has started, and is running, and it will NEVER END, but NEVER.

 

[Oseas]

You are entitled to your opinion. We all will know for sure who is right and who is wrong at the end of the Day.

JESUS, through Revelation 16:v.13 warned us, saying that in this time of Apocalypse: "The battle now, even now, and henceforward, is against three (3) unclean spirits like frogs (A SATANIC TRINITY) that come out of :

- the MOUTH of the red Dragon, having 7 heads and 10 horns, and 7 crowns upon his 7 heads; that old Serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he will be cast out from this celestial environment in Christ where are the true believers(Ephesians 1:v.3) into the earth, and his messengers will cast out with him; https://purebibleforum.com/index.ph...ng-by-the-red-sea-and-by-the-red-dragon.2439/

- and out of the MOUTH of the Beast, that is the Beast of sea -the Papacy- with his religious and SATANIC CHURCH the Roman Catholic Church having 7 heads and 10 horns, and upon his 10 horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the NAME of blasphemy -VICARIVS FILII DEI-linked/connected with the BODY of the read Dragon. The head is the Dragon, the BODY is the religious and SATANIC structures of the Vatican City-the Papacy- ;

- and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet, as is revealed in Revelation 13:v.11 and so on, THAT IS the false messiah of the Jews, an ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST MESSIAH, a false LAMB having two horns representing TWO KINGDOMS of Israel.
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause GOD shall send them STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie: That THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED who believed not the Truth, -BELIEVED NOT IN JESUS-JOHN 5:V.43-47- but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Be careful and get ready, for the ETERNAL punishment of the world of Devil has started, and is running, and it will NEVER END, but NEVER, for ever and ever.

THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS?

THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS? Revelation 16:v.13 to 16 1 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the False Prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which...

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[Dorothy Mae]

Is this closer
1 Corinthians 10:7 kjv
7. Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8. Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10. Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11. Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

eddif

Didn’t wipe out a people group but yes, people.

 

[God Is My Judge]

JESUS, through Revelation 16:v.13 warned us, saying that in this time of Apocalypse: "The battle now, even now, and henceforward, is against three (3) unclean spirits like frogs (A SATANIC TRINITY) that come out of :

- the MOUTH of the red Dragon, having 7 heads and 10 horns, and 7 crowns upon his 7 heads; that old Serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he will be cast out from this celestial environment in Christ where are the true believers(Ephesians 1:v.3) into the earth, and his messengers will cast out with him; https://purebibleforum.com/index.ph...ng-by-the-red-sea-and-by-the-red-dragon.2439/

- and out of the MOUTH of the Beast, that is the Beast of sea -the Papacy- with his religious and SATANIC CHURCH the Roman Catholic Church having 7 heads and 10 horns, and upon his 10 horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the NAME of blasphemy -VICARIVS FILII DEI-linked/connected with the BODY of the read Dragon. The head is the Dragon, the BODY is the religious and SATANIC structures of the Vatican City-the Papacy- ;

- and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet, as is revealed in Revelation 13:v.11 and so on, THAT IS the false messiah of the Jews, an ESOTERIC, AND KABBALISTIC, AND SPIRITIST MESSIAH, a false LAMB having two horns representing TWO KINGDOMS of Israel.
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause GOD shall send them STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie: That THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED who believed not the Truth, -BELIEVED NOT IN JESUS-JOHN 5:V.43-47- but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Be careful and get ready, for the ETERNAL punishment of the world of Devil has started, and is running, and it will NEVER END, but NEVER, for ever and ever.

THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS?

THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS - WHY FROGS? Revelation 16:v.13 to 16 1 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the Dragon, and out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the False Prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which...

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Devil kingdom will Never End, but Never, forever and ever? Where on earth or in hell???

 

[Goldwing]

Goldwing, be sure that what JLB above wrote is true. Actually, "A times, time, and a half of time refers to 3 1/2 years. This refers to the time of the great tribulation" - that is the second half of the last week, the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27.

Oseas, I'll ask of you the same question I asked of JLB.

Time within prophecy, can be either, "literal" or a "day for a year." Assuming you understand this, state the hermeneutic that requires, A times, time, and a half of time, to be translated as literal time, in Rev.12?

 

[Oseas]

Devil kingdom will Never End, but Never, forever and ever? Where on earth or in hell???

Don't think that THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE is a kingdom, oh no, it's not a kingdom.

THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE into which will be cast the Devil in the END of this current millennium, that is the seventh, AND where the Beast (Beast of sea-the Papacy- and the great whore that rides upon the Beast of sea, that is the RCC and her followers), and also the false prophet (the false messiah of the Jews, a false lamb with two horns-John 5:v.43-47 combined with Revelation 13:.v.11-18) , actually an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah, yeah, THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE is a place of PUNISHIMENT, not a Kingdom as you are thinking.

JESUS said: Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
JESUS said: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

 

[Oseas]

Oseas, I'll ask of you the same question I asked of JLB.

Time within prophecy, can be either, "literal" or a "day for a year." Assuming you understand this, state the hermeneutic that requires, A times, time, and a half of time, to be translated as literal time, in Rev.12?

Have you never read Daniel 12? It is linked with Revelation 12 & Daniel 9:v.27, the last week, week 70th, and the MAN clothed in linen clarify crystal clear for us. What matters is the Word of GOD, do you understand? The Word is GOD, don't you believe?

Daniel 12
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. (This is the 2nd half of the last week, week 70th)
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the END of the days.

Similarity between passing by the Red Sea and by the Red Dragon

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea, and walk through a desert, walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of...

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[Goldwing]

Have you never read Daniel 12? It is linked with Revelation 12 & Daniel 9:v.27, the last week, week 70th, and the MAN clothed in linen clarify crystal clear for us. What matters is the Word of GOD, do you understand? The Word is GOD, don't you believe?

Oseas, I do believe in God, and I take His word seriously, thank you.

However, your response does not answer the same question I put before JLB. I find it very disturbing that people recognize the importance of having valid laws when it comes to driving, filing taxes, and solving math. Because when they are understood and followed confusion is dispelled, and harmony exist. However, when it comes to understanding prophecy, very few individuals are concerned with the laws that God ordained, within prophecy, that lead students of prophecy to there intended meaning. After all, God is a God of law and order.

This is the reason for my question to you and JLB. I don't believe either of you are aware of the law that determines how time within apocalyptic should be interpreted, since either of you have answered the question. Am I correct?

 

[Oseas]

Oseas, I do believe in God, and I take His word seriously, thank you.

However, your response does not answer the same question I put before JLB. I find it very disturbing that people recognize the importance of having valid laws when it comes to driving, filing taxes, and solving math. Because when they are understood and followed confusion is dispelled, and harmony exist. However, when it comes to understanding prophecy, very few individuals are concerned with the laws that God ordained, within prophecy, that lead students of prophecy to there intended meaning. After all, God is a God of law and order.

This is the reason for my question to you and JLB. I don't believe either of you are aware of the law that determines how time within apocalyptic should be interpreted, since either of you have answered the question. Am I correct?

No, you are not correct.

Well, the Scriptures explain Scriptures, evidently, as I have above posted for you, but you didn't understand the Word of GOD is revealing.

Again: Scriptures explain Scriptures, so how do you interpret LITERALLY the Word of GOD quoted below concerning biblical AND MEN times ? I will wait you tell us how;

Revelation 13:v.5KJV -
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (Question: How many days are in 42 months? Are not 1260 days? Or a half of week ? By the way, this is the FIRST HALF of the last week)

Revelation 11:v. 2-3 KJV -
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. (42 months=1260 days; the explanation is the same as above about Revelation 13:v.5)

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. (DID YOU UNDERSTAND? 1260 days=42months)

NOTE: Revelation 13:v.5 and 11:v.2 above, both refer to the FIRST HALF of the last week, Daniel 9:v.27 week 70th. In the other hand, the above 1290 days (1260+30 days) refer to the period of the SECOND HALF.

Revelation 9:v.5 -
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months (150 days): and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

JAMES 5:v. 17
17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.(42 months or 1260 days or half of a week)

Revelation 12:v.6 and 14
6 And the WOMAN (the mother of the MAN child) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of GOD, that they (THEY WHOM?) should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
14 And to the WOMAN were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
- a time , it means a year;
- and times, mean two years
- and half a time, a half of a year
- a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
- 42 MONTHS

Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. Matthew 25:v.29

Be careful or then Get ready