Bible Study The Established Law.

[Corn Pop]

Listen Dan. As nice as I can be, I see that you are blind to the good part of the Law of Moses. I have already posted that. There are two sides to God's Laws, Statues, and Rules.

If I were to follow your theology, I would then go out and steal and do all of these things....
Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before me.
20:4 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,
20:6 but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
20:7 "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work,
20:10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates.
20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
20:12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the LORD your God is giving you.
20:13 "You shall not murder.
20:14 "You shall not commit adultery.
20:15 "You shall not steal.
20:16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
20:17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male servant, or his female servant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's."

Come on now Dan, if you're going to throw out the Law, the above things are, according to you, are Ok to do.

Christ did not live under carnal law, he lived All the law creates is bondage, of course we live under the laws of our nations but as we walk with God in the light we only walk the spiritual law in love, so even if law was taken away you would not steal or so on because you only walk in love walking with God only under "spiritual law." Love God and treat others as you would like to be treated.

Christ walked under spiritual Law.


All i done is post the scriptures so you can't say im preaching another gospel.

 

[Nathan]

Christ did not live under carnal law, he lived under spiritual Law if we want to call it that, and was He a bad person?. All the law creates is bondage, of course we live under the laws of our nations but as we walk with God in the light we only walk the spiritual law in love, so even if law was taken away you would not steal or so on because you only walk in love and know love walking with God only under "spiritual law."

Christ did not live under the law of the Most High of the old testament he lived under spiritual Law.

The mysterys have been revealed to me. The devil has guided me from his throne in heaven to understanding, put me in chains, sent fire sulfar and brimstone from heaven on me, judged me, the snake has bitten me, the light bearer has teached me and put me in bondage so I have come to the knowledge of the truth.

All is fullfilled. I walk with the true God. Not the god sitting on a throne in heaven judging and guiding. The mystery has been revealed.

All i done is post the scripture but you seem to be saying its invalid.

The carnal law has never been the way to God. The law is the serpants fruit.

Moses raise up the serpant.

All i done is post the scriptures so you can't say im preaching another gospel.

What do you define as the "carnal law" and what do you define as the "spiritual law"? As if you were going to write them in a dictionary kind of thing.

 

[Corn Pop]

A hard verse to grasp.

"because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression"

Christ walked with God. Not the god sitting on a throne in heaven judging through the law that commanded he must stone the woman who commited adultery.

The law judged Christ and he was found guiltless.

Spiritual law is one law of pure love giving and recieving from God.

 

[Nathan]

I am only aware of one God. He is the only One I know of who made any law spoke of in the Bible.

A hard verse to grasp.

"because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression"

Christ walked with God. Not the god sitting on a throne in heaven judging through the law that commanded he must stone the woman who commited adultery.

The law judged Christ and he was found guiltless.

 

[Corn Pop]

I am only aware of one God. He is the only One I know of who made any law spoke of in the Bible.

Does your god sit on a throne in heaven ruling over all things and judges the world, and commands obedience and worship as the one true god, and that you live by his rules?

 

[Nathan]

Does your god sit on a throne in heaven ruling over all things and judges the world and commands obedience and worship and that you live by his law that you either do or makes you feel guilty for any reason at all in life. Trying to be the best servant to god as you can?.

You don't have to answer if you don't want.

I know of no other who sits on the throne in Heaven. The only God and Father of Jesus the Christ.

I live by His grace, through Faith. His law is eternal, good, and when I sin against it I do feel guilty because I am guilty. But praise be to Him who gives forgiveness for my sin through the finished work Christ has done.

I am His servant and His child.

I'll always be willing to give thanks to Him who called me from darkness to light. I pray my soul will never shrink back from Him.

There really is only One God. I hope someday you understand that.

 

[Corn Pop]

Once one can read the parable and be given the mystery, they will have full understanding and will know Christ and walk with God.

Not everyone gets there but they still get guided, the sins of the world are washed away. No one loses.

 

[JLB]

God's eternal kingdom laws were meant to be learned directly from Him, so that they words of instruction will impart faith and life.

• This is typtified in the tree of life.

Learning God's laws from another source other than God, which does not impart faith and life, will produce death.

• This is typtified by the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Abraham walked with the Lord and learned directly from Him, God's laws and commandments and precepts, by faith.

...because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.” Genesis 26:5


Abraham did not read what the law of Moses said, but walked with the Lord.


Now that we have the Spirit of Christ within us, and He has written His laws on our heart and in our mind, we can be led by the Spirit within, and obey the Lord.


The laws of God's kingdom are eternal.
The law of Moses was always temporary.
The law of Moses contained some of God's eternal kingdom laws.
The law of Moses added to the Covenant that preceded it, and did not annul it.


11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Colossians 2:11-14

...having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

"it" is a reference to the law of Moses: The book of the law of Moses.

This is a direct quote from Deuteronomy -

“Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness
against you; Deuteronomy 31:26




The 10 commandments were around, long before Moses gave the children of Israel the law.



JLB

 

[Corn Pop]

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[JLB]

Now we all know why Full Preterism has been declared Heresy.

 

[Corn Pop]

Now we all know why Full Preterism has been declared Heresy.

All i done is show the scriptures.

 

[Corn Pop]

The full revelation and knowledge and all mysterys are revealed.

 

[Douglas Summers]

Someone said to a believer...

"well, im not a christian like you are, but that does not mean im not as good as YOU".
"just whom do you think you are"???
"im as good as you"..

Then they make God out to be a liar everyday when they declare Their goodness of their own efforts are sufficient as the born again believers. for the born again believer's righteousness is by faith (imputed righteousness) of Christ by the Father to all who believe. Epistle to the Romans. The born again believer know who he is (worthless) without Christ imputed righteousness. And is grieved also for the self righteous soul to humble itself before Christ.

 

[Corn Pop]

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