The Gun Thread

[JLB]

I was thinking of buying a gun, to protect me against people with guns.

Maybe one of these;

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/notes/2016/02/No_Country_For_Old_Men/original.jpg

 

[stovebolts]

or maybe one of these;


https://nationalinterest.org/sites/...public/main_images/original.jpg?itok=58ed9vDS

How did you know what I want for Christmas!

 

[jasonc]

How did you know what I want for Christmas!

Javelin, lol

 

[Edward]

I was thinking of buying a gun, to protect me against people with guns.

Maybe one of these;

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/notes/2016/02/No_Country_For_Old_Men/original.jpg

That's a funny picture. He better not pull that trigger or he's going to have a bloody nose, lol. You can't shoot a pistol grip SG like that!

 

[Bull of the Woods]

I think your location comes into it. We have a farm and the house is a quarter mile off a very small rural road.
We have always had at least one large dog living outside. Our current great dog is part German Shepherd, Lab and Siberian Husky. No one in a car or on foot could get close without her barking like nuts.
We have various rifles and one shotgun. I wouldn't expect to ever be confronted by an intruder inside.
But I am not an expert.

I put in a picture of my dog on the lookout up our driveway

 

[KevinK]

I like the idea of a shotgun for primary home defense. Close range "stopping" power, but rapidly loses lethality over longer distances (say 50 yards or so). Nice setup for urban protection whilst mimimizing collateral damage risk.

 

[Edward]

I think your location comes into it. We have a farm and the house is a quarter mile off a very small rural road.
We have always had at least one large dog living outside. Our current great dog is part German Shepherd, Lab and Siberian Husky. No one in a car or on foot could get close without her barking like nuts.
We have various rifles and one shotgun. I wouldn't expect to ever be confronted by an intruder inside.
But I am not an expert.

I put in a picture of my dog on the lookout up our driveway

That's a good looking dog Brother. He looks like he is on duty, lol!

I like the idea of a shotgun for primary home defense. Close range "stopping" power, but rapidly loses lethality over longer distances (say 50 yards or so). Nice setup for urban protection whilst mimimizing collateral damage risk.

That's a good thought there. Can't have any collateral damage. That would be a total failure. You might not think so at first, but it's fairly well established that that little ol 55 grain bullet in a .223 is actually fairly safe from over penetration and such because of the light weight of the projectile. (But 00 buck pellets are also 53-55 grains themselves.

 

[jasonc]

I like the idea of a shotgun for primary home defense. Close range "stopping" power, but rapidly loses lethality over longer distances (say 50 yards or so). Nice setup for urban protection whilst mimimizing collateral damage risk.

Cant carry those ,plus recoil .my wife cant handle those .

 

[KevinK]

That's a good thought there. Can't have any collateral damage. That would be a total failure. You might not think so at first, but it's fairly well established that that little ol 55 grain bullet in a .223 is actually fairly safe from over penetration and such because of the light weight of the projectile. (But 00 buck pellets are also 53-55 grains themselves.

Well, the ol' Box-o-truth gives some surprising results that defy conventional wisdom. The .223 sailed right through 12 pine boards and was still going, even though it did tumble as designed. 00 buck only made it through 8 boards of sheetrock (a lighter material), with most of the pellets stopped at 7.

I think it has to do with simple velocity. The rifle round is travelling at nearly 3x the speed of buckshot. That's a big difference in energy.

 

[Edward]

Cant carry those ,plus recoil .my wife cant handle those .

20 ga. Remington 870 youth. I bought my son one of those when he was young...that is such a sweet little SG. It had a 20" barrel and was no longer than a 10/22. Very cool.

 

[jasonc]

20 ga. Remington 870 youth. I bought my son one of those when he was young...that is such a sweet little SG. It had a 20" barrel and was no longer than a 10/22. Very cool.

Ra,its weakens those joints .dead bolts are hard

 

[Edward]

Oh, I didn't know that. Better to go for the 223 then, lol. :wink

 

[Explorer55]

I know you're a big-bore guy, Edward, very cool. I'm mostly a 9mm guy, but I also luvs the kick from a .357 Magnum snub. I've shot .44 and .45, but never owned either.

An old used Colt King Cobra .357 Magnum was the first firearm I ever bought. Satin Stainless. I had it for years, then eventually sold it. I just saw the other day Colt is bringing them back! MSRP $899, but i'm sure considerably less than that through gun dealers.

 

[Explorer55]

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Isn't the 9mm the one that misfires sometimes?

Huh??? That Usually depends on the particular make and model of firearm, and ammo combination. Some firearms are finicky with certain types of ammo. It can happen with any caliber firearm.

 

[Explorer55]

45acp $160 for 50 rounds
22lr $75 for 500 rounds
1 round is shot

Wow I remember those prices. There was a "run" on ammo thus driving the prices way up when Obama was in office. Obama was the best gun salesman ever lol. hey have come down considerably since then. But with democrats recently attempting to go after guns again it may drive prices up again.

 

[GodsGrace]

Wow I remember those prices. There was a "run" on ammo thus driving the prices way up when Obama was in office. Obama was the best gun salesman ever lol. hey have come down considerably since then. But with democrats recently attempting to go after guns again it may drive prices up again.

Funny how some things backfire!
LOL