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The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul;

I would not suggest it. I was just curious if you had. There are some thoughts of yours that may be associated with it.

Well it must not be a coincedence. I should read it, see what my brother Thomas has to say. :biggrin2
 
No man knows the full truth and if only the full truth are saved then all mankind is doomed. Every single person has a flaw in there beliefs and doctrine, no one is the truth.
 
No man knows the full truth and if only the full truth are saved then all mankind is doomed. Every single person has a flaw in there beliefs and doctrine, no one is the truth.

Do you believe Christ is the Truth?
 
Do you believe the devil is defeated or still roams the earth?
He still roams. No doubt.

He was defeated before he ever fell from his position in heaven - he just didnt know it.
 
And how is a person set free?

All have fallen short of the Law, so all have had the serpants bite, all have the mark of the beast, thats the law, the serpants fruit.

Christ took away the Sin of the world and the ordinances that were against us.

There is nothing in scripture anywhere in scripture that leads me to believe anyone goes to eternal punishment.
 
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All have fallen short of the Law, so all have had the serpants bite, all have the mark of the beast, thats the law, the serpants fruit.

Christ took away the Sin of the world and the ordinances that were against us.

There is nothing in scripture anywhere in scripture that leads me to believe anyone goes to eternal punishment.
11“And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” (Revelation 14:11 NASB)
 
All have fallen short of the Law, so all have had the serpants bite, all have the mark of the beast, thats the law, the serpants fruit.

Christ took away the Sin of the world and the ordinances that were against us.

There is nothing in scripture anywhere in scripture that leads me to believe anyone goes to eternal punishment.

Do you believe anyone gets any punishment at all?
 
Do you believe anyone gets any punishment at all?

I dont there has ever been a living person who has not suffered in this world, be it physical or mental. It might look like people live really nice lifes, but inward they suffer because there spiritually dead.

Even Jesus said let the dead bury there dead.

Jesus come for a short time to bring light into the world.

Jesus even said himself he speaks figuratively, even as he said it better to enter life with one arm than with two and go into the eternal fire. As he was explaining he was the truth but people would rather live in darkness, the fire, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

The light gave truth, joy, and hope to those who would accept it and believe.

There is no literal eternal fire. Its symbolic and figurative speech. Jesus said a few times to his diciples he was speaking figuratively. He spoke figuratively, symbolics, parables, and literally.
 
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I dont there has ever been a living person who has not suffered in this world, be it physical or mental. It might look like people live really nice lifes, but inward they suffer because there spiritually dead.

Even Jesus said let the dead bury there dead.

Jesus come for a short time to bring light into the world.

Jesus even said himself he speaks figuratively, even as he said it better to enter life with one arm than with two and go into the eternal fire. As he was explaining he was the truth but people would rather live in darkness, the fire, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

The light gave truth, joy, and hope to those who would accept it and believe.

There is no literal eternal fire. Its symbolic and figurative speech. Jesus said a few times to his diciples he was speaking figuratively. He spoke figuratively, symbolics, parables, and literally.
You say Jesus did speak literally, so how do you know eternal fire was not one time He was?

When He said to fear Him who can destroy body and soul in hell, was Jesus speaking the truth?
 
I dont there has ever been a living person who has not suffered in this world, be it physical or mental. It might look like people live really nice lifes, but inward they suffer because there spiritually dead.

Even Jesus said let the dead bury there dead.

Jesus come for a short time to bring light into the world.

Jesus even said himself he speaks figuratively, even as he said it better to enter life with one arm than with two and go into the eternal fire. As he was explaining he was the truth but people would rather live in darkness, the fire, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

The light gave truth, joy, and hope to those who would accept it and believe.

There is no literal eternal fire. Its symbolic and figurative speech. Jesus said a few times to his diciples he was speaking figuratively. He spoke figuratively, symbolics, parables, and literally.
Where is that place where there will be weeping and knashing of teeth?
 
Its called earth. :lol
Kiwidan
This can't be right. Jesus says this at the end of the parable of the wedding banquet.
Those wearing the proper attire are invited in and the others are LEFT OUTSIDE where there will be weeping and knashing of teeth.

If that's the earth, then WHERE were the ones invited in?

Do you not see this as heaven and hell? Whatever hell may be.
 
Kiwidan
This can't be right. Jesus says this at the end of the parable of the wedding banquet.
Those wearing the proper attire are invited in and the others are LEFT OUTSIDE where there will be weeping and knashing of teeth.

If that's the earth, then WHERE were the ones invited in?

Do you not see this as heaven and hell? Whatever hell may be.


Think about what hes saying. He was the light in the world just for a very short time then the darkness come. He draws people into him preaching the Gospel. I am the bread of life. Eat me. If he is in heaven, who is in hell?. If he had to go and he raises people up, where is he raising them from?. From death, hades.
 
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Think about what hes saying. He was the light in the world just for a very short time then the darkness come. He draws people into him preaching the Gospel. I am the bread of life. Eat me. If he is in heaven, who is in hell?. If he had to go and he raises people up, where is he raising them from?. From death, hades. Be it why alive on this earth or in the grave, it the same place.
The darkness was before Jesus. John. That's why it did not recognize Him.
He raises people up from the darkness that enveloped them.
To the kingdom.
No Bible. Sorry.
 
I know the darkness was before Jesus. Its always been dark.

Then Jesus told them, “You are going to have the light just a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, before darkness overtakes you.


In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, he didn't create the heavens and the earth and the eternal hell fire.
 
God sees everything is very good then Opps, man falls into death/hades/ hell and needs a helping hand out.
 
I know the darkness was before Jesus. Its always been dark.

Then Jesus told them, “You are going to have the light just a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, before darkness overtakes you.


In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, he didn't create the heavens and the earth and the eternal hell fire.
God created all things,,,seen and unseen.
Why would He have created hell at the beginning?

Also, why do you think hell is eternal fire?
Do you mean the lake of fire i n Rev?

Tomorrow
 
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