The Power of a Triangle?

[Pard]

This is not something I believe. It is something that just popped into my head. Also, please note that I do not want this devolving into a Trinity/Anti-Trinity battle royal.

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The triangle. It is the strongest tool in an engineers arsenal. I took architecture classes in school, in fact I am the two year champion in my state in an architecture contest. I skipped a class and went to engineering for a semester, as well. One thing you learn is that triangles are very strong. Bridges are made of triangles for this reason. Even our houses are made of triangles.

The triangle is also a tool used to show the Holy Trinity. There are three points that make up a triangle, and there are three presences that make up the Trinity. It is interesting to note that the triangle is the strongest shape for an engineer, and the Trinity is the strongest power in the universe.

They both are triangles and they both are very strong.

The trinity is made up of three persons (God, the Word (Jesus), and the Spirit). A triangle is made up of three points and three sides. The number that is in common is the number 3.

666 is the number of the beast. You can make the lowest whole number of 666 by dividing it by 3^2 (3*3*3)(or 9).

I am sure there is more... or maybe not? Anyways, I was stretching and put my hands up in the air. My thumbs met and my index fingers met, making a triangle and all of a sudden I was like... wow...

 

[westtexas]

Also, please note that I do not want this devolving into a Trinity/Anti-Trinity battle royal.

Good luck! Maybe you need to ask one of the mods to move this one to the Prayer Thread!

 

[Good News Bob]

lol @ westtexas

2 points define a line, 3 a plane (triangle), and four points define a space (tetrahedron).

Take a cube and place as many cubes around it as you can. 20, right?

Take a sphere and place as many spheres around it as you can. 12, right?

Take a tetrahedron and place as many tetrahedrons around it as you can. 12, right?

I ope that wasn't too Greek.

You can go to a television store (like Best Buy) and check out 4-color televisions, which look remarkably stunning in color quality, especially when you compare them against other televisions. It is because there are four primary colors, not three (which is not some empirical fact). A 4-color system maps 3D color space, ad 3-color system 2D color space.

Of course, a tetrahedron is composed of triangles.

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[Pard]

Yes, and triangular rooms are nearly impossible to use efficiently. And yet without triangles a house wouldn't be able to hold up it's own roof. And without triangles the roof wouldn't be able to stay up under a strong wind, or heavy snow fall.


And a square (four) is made of triangles also.

And did you say "3D"? lol

Take a sphere and place as many spheres around it as you can. 12, right?

12/4=3... :D

Take a tetrahedron and place as many tetrahedrons around it as you can. 12, right?

12/4=3... :D

And what gives you the best display? DLP. And what makes DLP so awesome? Prisms... In fact LCD TVs also have prisms (crystals) in them as well. And prisms can be broken into triangles.

 

[Mysteryman]

The New Earth is going to be a cube, not a tri - angle !

 

[jasoncran]

The New Earth is going to be a cube, not a tri - angle !

no, the earth will have the cube shaped city on it(new jersualem) if the cube was the earth, where do the twelve gates go to, and since we have flesh bodies on the earth it has to be the earth.

 

[Mysteryman]

The New Earth is going to be a cube, not a tri - angle !

no, the earth will have the cube shaped city on it(new jersualem) if the cube was the earth, where do the twelve gates go to, and since we have flesh bodies on the earth it has to be the earth.

Hi Jason:

I think you need to do more study my friend. Look at what is outside of the holy city - Rev. 22:15

 

[jasoncran]

The New Earth is going to be a cube, not a tri - angle !

no, the earth will have the cube shaped city on it(new jersualem) if the cube was the earth, where do the twelve gates go to, and since we have flesh bodies on the earth it has to be the earth.

Hi Jason:

I think you need to do more study my friend. Look at what is outside of the holy city - Rev. 22:15

paging vet, it describes what is in the books of isaiah. the verse you mention means that those that arent in the kingdom. not necessarily the literal location other wise that cube would be in gehanna!

why have gates to hell if that is outside the location.

the vision of john states that he was taken to high moutain on the earth and saw the new jersusalem(the cube) descending.

 

[Vic C.]

The New Earth is going to be a cube, not a tri - angle !

... and just what is a "cube"? A "three" dimensional object. ... and how do you measure the volume of a cube? H x W x D. ... and what is the shape of a cube when unfolded?

:D

 

[Mysteryman]

Rev. 21:16 - length, breadth, and height of it are equal

Rev. 21:17 - 144 cubits - the measure of a man angel

Rev. 21:14 - had twelve foundations

Rev. 21:12 - twelve gates along with twelve angels

Rev. 21:13 - three gates on the east , west, north and south = 12

One solid cube has only one foundation , this New Jerusalem , new earth, has twelve foundations

Think of a total of twelves squares or eleven squares inside of the big outside square, and you will have a picture of the foundations of the New Earth.

 

[Vic C.]

You can go to a television store (like Best Buy) and check out 4-color televisions, which look remarkably stunning in color quality, especially when you compare them against other televisions. It is because there are four primary colors, not three (which is not some empirical fact). A 4-color system maps 3D color space, ad 3-color system 2D color space.

Actually, the idea that there are only three primary colors is an empirical fact. It is based on how many colors it takes to produce white, which comprises all colors in the universe.

You can't get white with just one or two colors, but you can with three, red, green and blue (or yellow, cyan and magenta when dealing with pigments in paint, known as subtractive primaries). Hence the reason for calling them primary. :D

Hey I knew my photography classes would be handy one day.

 

[Free]

The New Earth is going to be a cube, not a tri - angle !

no, the earth will have the cube shaped city on it(new jersualem) if the cube was the earth, where do the twelve gates go to, and since we have flesh bodies on the earth it has to be the earth.

Hi Jason:

I think you need to do more study my friend. Look at what is outside of the holy city - Rev. 22:15

No, Jason is correct.

Rev 21:1-2,10-15, 1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, 11 having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12 It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed-- 13 on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. 15 And the one who spoke with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city and its gates and walls. (ESV)

Where do you think this "great, high mountain" was from which he saw "the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God? Clearly, the new Jerusalem is not the new earth.

Rev 22:15, 15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

I can't help but wonder MM as to why you told Jason he needs to study more and then asked him to read the above verse. Are you implying that he is practicing falsehood and will be outside the city? :bigfrown Explain yourself.

 

[Mysteryman]

The New Earth is going to be a cube, not a tri - angle !

no, the earth will have the cube shaped city on it(new jersualem) if the cube was the earth, where do the twelve gates go to, and since we have flesh bodies on the earth it has to be the earth.

Hi Jason:

I think you need to do more study my friend. Look at what is outside of the holy city - Rev. 22:15

No, Jason is correct.

Rev 21:1-2,10-15, 1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, 11 having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12 It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed-- 13 on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. 15 And the one who spoke with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city and its gates and walls. (ESV)

Where do you think this "great, high mountain" was from which he saw "the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God? Clearly, the new Jerusalem is not the new earth.

Rev 22:15, 15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

I can't help but wonder MM as to why you told Jason he needs to study more and then asked him to read the above verse. Are you implying that he is practicing falsehood and will be outside the city? :bigfrown Explain yourself.[/quote]
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Hi Free

To answer your last question. I never implied no such thing. I believe Jason to be a christian. One of the brethren. He just made a mistake on the shape of the New Earth. Everything outside of the New Jerusalem, is where the lake of fire is located.

This earth is a sphere and the New Earth is a cube. Its just that simple.

 

[Free]

This earth is a sphere and the New Earth is a cube. Its just that simple.

You're right, it is simple. And I've shown that the passage in question shows that the new Jerusalem is a cube, not the new earth.

 

[Pard]

The world is gonna turn into a cube?

 

[Mysteryman]

This earth is a sphere and the New Earth is a cube. Its just that simple.

You're right, it is simple. And I've shown that the passage in question shows that the new Jerusalem is a cube, not the new earth.

Hi Free :

Believe what you wish, but everything outside of the cube, the Holy City, the New Jerusalem, which is the New Earth is the Lake of fire, and outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie - Rev. 22:15. Also take note, that there shall in no wise enter in it anything that defileth, neither worketh abomination, or a lie : but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. - Rev. 21:27

In Rev. 21:1 John saw a new heaven and a new earth. The New Jerusalem, which is the New Earth comes down from God out of heaven (the New Heaven) prepared as a bride. The two will become one.

Galatians 4:26 & 27 - "But Jerusalem which is above, is free, which is the mother of us all. She is barren and bearest not. <These are her children. < These are God's children. And there is going to be a final marriage to the Lamb. The Lamb being God the Father, and the New Jerusalem being the female side of God. The two will become one again !

 

[Mysteryman]

The world is gonna turn into a cube?

Hi Pard:

No, this earth is going to be destroyed by God with fire and brimstone. This earth is going to burn with a fervent heat. God is going to make all things new, which include a New Heaven and a New Earth.

 

[Free]

This earth is a sphere and the New Earth is a cube. Its just that simple.

You're right, it is simple. And I've shown that the passage in question shows that the new Jerusalem is a cube, not the new earth.

Hi Free :

Believe what you wish, but everything outside of the cube, the Holy City, the New Jerusalem, which is the New Earth is the Lake of fire, and outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie - Rev. 22:15. Also take note, that there shall in no wise enter in it anything that defileth, neither worketh abomination, or a lie : but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. - Rev. 21:27

In Rev. 21:1 John saw a new heaven and a new earth. The New Jerusalem, which is the New Earth comes down from God out of heaven (the New Heaven) prepared as a bride. The two will become one.

I am not "believing what I wish;" I am believing what Scripture says. John says he saw a new heaven and a new earth and a new city. No where in the text does he ever equate the new city with the new earth, so you shouldn't do that either. Besides, it may be symbolism for something else and not a literal city. I have no idea why you are referring to Rev 22:15 as it is irrelevant to this discussion.

Please address my point regarding Rev. 21:1-2 and verse 10.

Rev 1:21-26, 21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made of a single pearl, and the street of the city was pure gold, transparent as glass. 22 And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb. 23 And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24 By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it, 25 and its gates will never be shut by day--and there will be no night there. 26 They will bring into it the glory and the honor of the nations. 27 But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life. (ESV)

Notice the mention of "gates" that "will never be shut by day" and that there will be entering and bringing into.

Galatians 4:26 & 27 - "But Jerusalem which is above, is free, which is the mother of us all. She is barren and bearest not. <These are her children. < These are God's children. And there is going to be a final marriage to the Lamb. The Lamb being God the Father, and the New Jerusalem being the female side of God. The two will become one again !

Wow, no. If that wasn't so bizarre I'd call it heresy.

 

[Good News Bob]

You can go to a television store (like Best Buy) and check out 4-color televisions, which look remarkably stunning in color quality, especially when you compare them against other televisions. It is because there are four primary colors, not three (which is not some empirical fact). A 4-color system maps 3D color space, ad 3-color system 2D color space.

Actually, the idea that there are only three primary colors is an empirical fact. It is based on how many colors it takes to produce white, which comprises all colors in the universe.

Its a grammatical point, nothing empirical. Quite obvious because there is such a thing as 3D color space (per Art 101) and 3 points define a plane, e.g. 2D color space (per basic mathematics). It isn't really a revelation that the 3D geometrical simple is a tetrahedron (whereas the 2D simple is a triangle). I mean, I thought white had all the colors?

You can't get white with just one or two colors, but you can with three, red, green and blue (or yellow, cyan and magenta when dealing with pigments in paint, known as subtractive primaries). Hence the reason for calling them primary. :D

You cannot get all the colors with 3 colors. I am not sure about 4 colors getting all the colors (nor even if such a class of all colors exists), but I do know that with a 4 prime color system you get more color. Go TV shopping. Then come back and tell me whether you can see or not.

 

[Mysteryman]

Quote Free : "I am not "believing what I wish;" I am believing what Scripture says. John says he saw a new heaven and a new earth and a new city. No where in the text does he ever equate the new city with the new earth, so you shouldn't do that either. Besides, it may be symbolism for something else and not a literal city. I have no idea why you are referring to Rev 22:15 as it is irrelevant to this discussion."
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Hi Free

I am sure that you are believing as you wish. Rev. 22:15 lines up perfectly with Rev. 21:8

Chapter 21 is showing us, that the New Jerusalem is the bride of the Lamb (God). This is the two becoming one again.

Also, the New Earth , which is called the New Jerusalem, comes down out of the New Heaven. Nowhere does it mention anything else as being the New Earth other than this New Jerusalem.

The lake of fire is outside of this New Earth, and this is made clear by the verses we have been looking at.