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The religion of peace.... Islam?

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TheStudent said:
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please seperate the ORIGINAL islam with what these EXTREMISTS are teaching.



You are saying that the original Islam didn't oppress other religions?


Are you really saying that?
 
these jews anc christians that became muslims, why did they revert? what was their reason? you seem to know a lot of hadith, please post these up.

can you please explain to me how someone can be forced to believe in something?

'"I shall expel all Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not allow any one here except Muslims."

Further, the Muhammad said

"There can be no more than one deen co-existing in the Arabian Peninsula" (that is, Hijaz and Najd).'

show me these two hadiths with their chain of narration. these sound VERY unathentic. lets see what your worth gary. there are MANY non-muslims in ALL of the countries that Islam ruled, why were they not wiped out? use your sense.

also, rape is a sin. all muslims know this. tell me, do you know what a concubine is? can you tell me how many concubines King Solomon had?
you say 'their men had been killed' and 'their women were taken'.is this really true gary? are you aware of the tax that non-muslims had to pay? what would be the point of this tax if they were all dead or 'taken'? use your sense.

divinenames, show me this oppresion. then i will show you a dozen verses from quran and hadith that talk respectufully of the People of the Book. so please show me this oppresion you speak of. and bring your proof, not rumour or lies.
 
... a few more days for the "Religion of Peace"...

5/8/05 Afghanistan Kabul A suicide bomber in a café kills two civilians and injures six in a horrific blast.

5/7/05 Iraq Baghdad Suicidal Sunnis target a civilian convoy at a busy intersection. Twenty-two are killed in the blast and dozens lay injured in the circle of mutilated bodies.

5/7/05 Yeman Sanaa Five solider are injured when Yemeni fundamentalists throw a grenade at them from a passing car.

5/7/05 Lebanon Jounieh Twenty-eight people injured by a bomb set in a commercial district of a Christian town.

5/6/05 Iraq Tikrit A suicidal religious extremist blows his car up next to a minivan taking Iraqi police to work, killing seven and injuring eight.

5/6/05 Iraq Baghdad Assyrian Christians are thought to be among the fourteen, bound corpses of torture victims found in a city garbage dump.

5/6/05 Iraq Suwayra Sixteen Iraqis shopping at a marketplace are murdered by a Fedayeen, who wades into the crowd before detonating explosives strapped to his body. At least thirty-six are injured.

:o
 
Gary_Bee said:
... and Muhammad also said:

Umar said that that he heard Muhammad say that

"I shall expel all Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not allow any one here except Muslims."

Further, the Muhammad said

"There can be no more than one deen co-existing in the Arabian Peninsula" (that is, Hijaz and Najd).

hmmmmmm

Read more here:
http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/xstnc-7.html

:o

You wanted a source? Sure, here is a Muslim one...
http://www.islamic-state.org/saudi/peninsula.shtml

:-?
 
Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4363:

It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira who said: We were (sitting) in the mosque when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) came to us and said: (Let us) go to the Jews. We went out with him until we came to them. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) stood up and called out to them (saying): O ye assembly of Jews, accept Islam (and) you will be safe. They said: Abu'l-Qasim, you have communicated (God's Message to us). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I want this (i. e. you should admit that God's Message has been communicated to you), accept Islam and you would be safe. They said: Abu'l-Qisim, you have communicated (Allah's Message). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I want this... - He said to them (the same words) the third time (and on getting the same reply) he added: You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I wish that I should expel you from this land Those of you who have any property with them should sell it, otherwise they should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle (and they may have to go away leaving everything behind).



Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366:

It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.


http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/reference.html
 
the rule concerning any hadiths is to see if they contradict the Quran. if they do then they are to be discarded. remember, the best Hadith is the Quran.

this is honestly the first time i had come across those two. wether they are truly authentic i will have to further investigate. what i do know is that in the Quran, christans and jews were spoken of respectfully and in muslim lands, their protection was a duty of the Muslims.

'Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4366:

It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim. '

im sure you will find that there were many christians and jews living in the arabian peninusal at the time of muhammeds death. this makes this hadith very supspect, especially with what is also written in the Quran.

unfortunatly, a lot of hadiths were fabricated and used for the selfish aims of men. it is these hadith that non-muslims often use to criticise islam. i advise you to quote and argue only with the Quran, this is the safest, most accurate way to discuss islam.
 
Gary_Bee said:
... and Muhammad also said:

Umar said that that he heard Muhammad say that

"I shall expel all Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not allow any one here except Muslims."

Further, the Muhammad said

"There can be no more than one deen co-existing in the Arabian Peninsula" (that is, Hijaz and Najd).

hmmmmmm

Read more here:
http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/xstnc-7.html

:o

TheStudent said:
show me these two hadiths with their chain of narration. these sound VERY unathentic. lets see what your worth gary.

Gary_Bee said:
You wanted a source? Sure, here is a Muslim one...
http://www.islamic-state.org/saudi/peninsula.shtml

:-?

TheStudent said:
this is honestly the first time i had come across those two. wether they are truly authentic i will have to further investigate.

Well at least you admit that you are learning! But remember that if YOU reject these hadith then you go against your Sahih Muslim (Sahih = authentic) which then puts all so-called "authentic" Hadith at risk and you also go against fatwa which recognise these Hadith.

fatwa said:
From http://www.fatwa-online.com

The rule concerning employment of foreign non-Muslims in Muslim lands, especially in the Arabian Peninsula
Published on Thursday 3 August 2000

Question: Is it permissible to import foreign labors who are non-Muslims?

Response: No doubt the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) ordered for the expulsion of the polytheists from the Arabian Peninsula. He said: ((I will surely expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula so that I leave (there) none but Muslims)). The hadeeth indicates that the guidance of the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) is that the Arabian Peninsula should remain with only Muslim inhabitants, due to the danger posed by the presence of Christians and other disbelievers.

So now you can claim that other Muslims lied... or fabricated these hadith. We know Muslims lie. Muhammad lied. He allowed his followers to lie. His followers today lie for their religion.

Can you see the mess you get into?

You now even want to deny a fatwa! (fatwa=ruling)

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Can you see why we trust Jesus' words? He said: "By their fruits you will know them." You are proving that the fruits of Muhammad are rotten. The lies and deceit started with Muhammad. They continue today.

:-?
 
Gary_Bee said:
Some Jews became Muslims... yes, I remember a few cases. Muhammad and his men killed the men, raped their women and took the women as part of their plunder. The women were forced to become Muslims... they had few options as their men had already been murdered!

:o

TheStudent said:
you say 'their men had been killed' and 'their women were taken'. is this really true gary?

You want proof. Then when I give you proof from your own Islamic sources (the "authentic" Hadith) you reject those hadith!....

Here is the proof again:

Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4364: -click here-

It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn Umar that the Jews of Banu Nadir and Banu Quraizi fought against the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) who expelled Banu Nadir, and allowed Quraiza to stay on, and granted favour to them until they too fought against him. Then he killed their men, and distributed their women, children and properties among the Muslims, except that some of them had joined the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) who granted them security. They embraced Islam. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) turned out all the Jews of Medlina. Banu Qainuqa' (the tribe of 'Abdullah b. Salim) and the Jews of Banu Haritha and every other Jew who was in Medina.

This "messenger of allah" is a thief, rapist and murderer.

:o

Jesus said that we would be able to expose false prophets "by their fruits"... the fruits of Muhammad (T.H.U.G.) are rotten!

:-?
 
... a few more days from the "Religion of peace"...

5/8/05 Afghanistan Kabul A suicide bomber in a café kills two civilians and injures six in a horrific blast.

5/7/05 Iraq Baghdad Suicidal Sunnis target a civilian convoy at a busy intersection. Twenty-two are killed in the blast and dozens lay injured in the circle of mutilated bodies.

5/7/05 Yeman Sanaa Five solider are injured when Yemeni fundamentalists throw a grenade at them from a passing car.

5/7/05 Lebanon Jounieh Twenty-eight people injured by a bomb set in a commercial district of a Christian town.

5/6/05 Iraq Tikrit A suicidal religious extremist blows his car up next to a minivan taking Iraqi police to work, killing seven and injuring eight.

5/6/05 Iraq Baghdad Assyrian Christians are thought to be among the fourteen, bound corpses of torture victims found in a city garbage dump.

5/6/05 Iraq Suwayra Sixteen Iraqis shopping at a marketplace are murdered by a Fedayeen, who wades into the crowd before detonating explosives strapped to his body. At least thirty-six are injured.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

It takes a long time to load.... over 2000 religiously motivated and fatal Islamic terrorist attacks recorded, incidents/murders by the "Religion of Peace" since 9/11

:evil: <----- the "spirit" of Muhammad lives on.

.
 
TheStudent said:
the rule concerning any hadiths is to see if they contradict the Quran. if they do then they are to be discarded. remember, the best Hadith is the Quran.


This seems to assume that an authentic hadith couldn't contradict the Quran. This may be the assumption of Muslims, but you can hardly suggest that non-Muslims should follow that 'rule'.
 
THE DHIMMI - JEWS AND CHRISTIANS UNDER ISLAM
-Jim Gerrish

(I have quoted most of the article, except the section about Israel)

http://www.churchisraelforum.com/the_dh ... _islam.htm



"Today we often hear Muslims in the Middle East charging Israel with unfairness and discrimination in regard to the administration of Israel's Muslim populations. At times, there may seem to be some justification for these charges. However, there is no way to fairly assess today's situation without looking back over the last 1,300 years. Then the present tables were turned and Muslims ruled exclusively in the Middle East. The little-known facts of this dark and gruesome history have been well concealed and are only now gradually being brought to light. One excellent source book has become available in English over the last few years. This epic work was written by Bat Ye'or and is entitled, The Dhimmi (this is a term reserved for Jews and Christians under Islam). This work is not just a volume of idle speculation, but reflects the painstaking presentation of nearly 200 documents verifying the condition of both Christians and Jews under the rule of Islam. There are other works, of course, but in this article we will rely heavily upon this fine and comprehensive work of Bat Ye'or.

During the first half of the seventy century AD, Islam was becoming entrenched in the desert area which we know today as Saudi Arabia. Islam's ugly side was quickly made apparent as the prophet turned against the Jews at the oasis of Khaybar, near Medina. After much destruction and bloodshed, the Jews surrendered under the terms of a treaty known as the dhimma. Subsequently, all the Jews and Christians of Arabia submitted to the Muslims under the terms of a treaty similar to the one granted at Khaybar.

It was during this early period that the concept of jihad, or holy war, began to be developed. The Muslims considered all areas controlled by Islam as the dar al-Islam, or the "territory of Islam," while all areas controlled by infidels were known as the dar al-harb, or the "abode of war." Since Muslims felt Islam was destined to control all the earth, there could be no permanent peace made with infidels.

As Islam and its holy war burst from the confines of Arabia, many peoples were forcefully confronted with it. Islam swept across the Holy Land, Syria, Egypt, and North Africa in its early years. Generally, polytheists were given the choice of conversion or death. However, Jews and Christians, or "the people of the Book" as they were known to Muslims, came under special consideration. Based upon the previous treaty at Khaybar they were called dhimmi, people who were allowed to live and even to adhere to their religions, but all this for the benefit of Islam. They were doomed to remain second-class citizens, living, it seemed, for the sole purpose of demonstrating to all, the superiority of Islam over conquered religions.

From this point on the dhimmi were always at the mercy of the Muslim rulers, and subject at all times to the whims of Muslim mobs. The dhimmi status seemed to always hang in peril. In fact, in AD 640, the status of the dhimmi was revoked throughout the whole Arabian peninsula and the remaining Jews and Christians were expelled.

Soon the dhimmi status, for what it was worth, was applied to Jews and Christians in many conquered lands of the Middle East. The dhimmi began to be more clearly defined by Muslim law and by common practice. There were several things that came to define the dhimmi status in Muslim lands.

ASPECTS OF THE DHIMMI STATUS

1. Oppressive taxation

In each conquered land, the Jews and Christians were allowed to remain and cultivate the land in exchange for the payment of a tax to the local Muslim ruler. This tax was called the Kharaj. This system was designed to remind the tenants that Islam owned the land. Their national identities and histories were blotted out and soon became virtually nonexistent. They were forbidden to possess arms and thus became totally dependent upon the occupying Muslim power. In some areas, such as Morocco, this system became so oppressive that the Jews of that area were virtual serfs even as late as 1913, and were, literally, the property of their Muslim masters.

In addition to the Kharaj tax, the dhimmi were subjected to the poll tax or Jizya. This tax had to be paid in person by each subject, and it had to be paid in a public and humiliating manner. It was common for the dhimmi to be struck on the head or on the nape of the neck as he paid the tax to demonstrate the superiority of Islam.

The dhimmi were also victimized by higher commercial and travel taxes. In addition they were often victims of extortion and blackmail at the hand of their own rulers. Often, greedy rulers required them to pay an avania, or protection money. This was simply a sum of money extorted from the Jewish or Christian communities, under the threat of persecution. This practice of having to pay for their own protection soon became the norm for dhimmi communities in Muslim lands.



2. Social and legal discrimination

Dhimmi peoples were generally excluded from holding public office; were kept from many professions and high positions; or from being elevated, in any way, over Muslims. The most degrading jobs, such as cleaning the public latrines, fell to the dhimmi. Yemenite Jews, until they immigrated to Israel in 1950, were still required to clean the public latrines and remove dead animals from the city streets.

In the courtroom, the evidence of a dhimmi could never be accepted in testimony against a Muslim. Thus it was often necessary for the dhimmi to hire Muslim "witnesses" for his court appearance. The dhimmi was not allowed to raise a hand against his Muslim masters, even if raised in self defense. Such a thoughtless act would often result in the death penalty. In many Muslim lands, Jews were routinely beaten and abused in the streets. They could only beg for mercy and attempt to flee their persecutors. They did not dare defend themselves.

To further clarify their inferior status, the dhimmi were required to wear special clothing. The type of clothing varied from country to country, but always it seemed to be designed to make Jews and Christians appear inferior and foolish. In many countries the Jews were even required to go barefoot. They were also required to walk to the left of the Muslims. They were almost universally forbidden to ride horses, and even when riding donkeys, they were required to dismount upon meeting a Muslim.

Jews and Christians were often confined to special quarters, and these areas were usually shut up after dark. They were not allowed to enter certain streets of Muslim cities. This practice continued in Persia, Yemen, and North Africa until the nineteenth century. These dhimmi ghettos were frequently the scenes of awful pogroms and persecutions by infuriated Muslim mobs. At the whim of local rulers these pitiful quarters could be confiscated and emptied on short notice. Whether they lived inside or outside of these quarters, the houses of dhimmi could never be taller or more elaborate than the houses of their Muslim neighbors.



3. Religious discrimination

In Muslim lands, the construction of new churches and synagogues was generally forbidden. The restoration of certain pre-Islamic structures was permitted so long as they were not enlarged or transformed. Dhimmi places of worship were often ransacked, burned or demolished at the whim of the Muslims. This trend has continued right up through modern times. In Saudi Arabia, the government bulldozed the last Christian church in the kingdom in 1987. It was a unique 12th century structure found near the Yemen border.

Liturgical forms were strictly controlled. It was generally prohibited to ring church bells, sound shofars (ram's horns used in Jewish ceremony), publicly display crosses, icons, banners and other religious objects. Early photos taken during the middle of the nineteenth century confirm that even the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem had been stripped of both its cross and belfry.

In many Muslim lands, Jews and Christians had to bury their dead without mourning. Dhimmi graves had to be specially marked lest a Muslim should accidentally pray over the grave of an infidel. The cemeteries of dhimmi were not respected since they were considered as being from the realm of hell. Commonly they were desecrated or even destroyed completely, as occurred in Jerusalem during Jordanian rule (1948-1967). At that time the Jordanian army used Jewish gravestones from the Mount of Olives to line their latrines.

The dhimmi had to take great care to show respect to Muslim holy places. In North Africa, if Jews and Christians entered a mosque it was considered a capital offense. It was not even permitted for them to look into a mosque when passing by. Any such accusation, whether true or false, could cost the dhimmi his life. This was especially the case in all charges of blasphemy. The dhimmi communities were religiously harassed and sometimes forced to convert. For instance, in Yemen, it was required that every Jewish orphan child be converted to Islam.

Of course, marriage or sexual relations between dhimmi and Muslim women called for the death sentence, although Muslim men could marry a dhimmi woman. To the Muslim, there was something about the dhimmi that was unclean and impure. This concept affected all Muslim relations with dhimmi peoples.

THE DHIMMI CONCEPTS AND MODERN-DAY JIHAD

Muslim concepts concerning the dhimmi may seem primitive and grossly discriminatory to the modern mind. However, these concepts are still very much alive in Muslim thinking, and are particularly evident in current ideas of jihad. The Islamic idea of world dominion has changed very little since the days of Muhammad. Involved in the Islamic concept is the complete military, religious and political domination of conquered peoples (which should ultimately include the whole world); Arabization of these peoples and nations; the absolute claim to their lands; the suppression of their historical, religious, and political traditions; and the extinguishing of their cultural and social aspirations.

It is unthinkable for Muslims that conquered peoples should rise up and throw off the yoke of Islam or that land once in the domain of Islam should ever be lost to that domain. According to Islamic thinking, once a region has been conquered for Islam, it is always Islamic and must be re-conquered from the infidel, regardless of the passage of time"
 
... a few more days with the "Religion of Peace"...

5/11/05 India Srinigar The Al-Nasreen terrorist group claims responsibility for a powerful car bombing at a busy intersection.

5/11/05 Iraq Baghdad Three separate Jihad attacks leave four dead and fourteen injured.

5/11/05 Iraq Tikrit A suicide car bomber swerves his vehicle into a crowd of people on a sidewalk. At least Twenty-seven are killed in the explosion.

5/11/05 Iraq Hawija A Fedayeen straps explosives to his chest then wades into a group of unemployed civilians waiting to apply for government jobs. At least thirty are blown to bits, with another forty suffering injuries.

5/10/05 Iraq Baghdad Seven civilians are blasted and burned to death by Fedayeen suicide car bomber on a busy street.

5/9/05 India Chakka The Mujahideen open fire on civilians exiting a mosque, killing three and injuring an unknown number.

5/9/05 Iraq Baghdad A grisly scene as a suicidal Sunni rams his car into two police vehicles, burning the occupants to death.

5/8/05 India Kuligam-Lalpora A 12-year-old girl is killed by a bomb that also injures her father and sister.

5/8/05 Afghanistan Kabul A suicide bomber in a café kills two civilians and injures six in a horrific blast.

Can you feel the peace yet?
 
Another week of "peace" from Islam...

5/17/05 India Lohardaga Seven family members, including women are asleep in their home when militant Muslims barge in and slit the throats of four of them while beating the rest.

5/17/05 India Srinigar The Mujahideen attacks a funeral of a man they murdered, killing two additional mourners and injuring seventeen.

5/17/05 Iraq Dujail Six Iraqi truck drivers are pulled from their cabs and killed by radical Sunnis.

5/16/05 Iraq Baghdad Three blindfolded and bound bodies are found. Some were shot miltiple times.

5/16/05 Iraq Aalgaya Muslim gunmen shoot a policeman and his wife to death in their car. The attack also left their two young children badly injured.

5/16/05 Indonesia Maluku Five policemen and a civilian are killed by Islamic militants in Indonesia.

5/15/05 Thailand Narathiwat After burning down in elementary school in Yala, Muslim extremists bomb a government vehicle, killing one Thai and injuring five others.

5/15/05 Iraq Iskandariya The bodies of thirty-four people, some in handcuffs, are found dumped in three locations. Jihadis tortured and beheaded many of them.

5/15/05 Algeria Khenchela All eleven members of a water supply convoy are blown up or machine-gunned by the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat.

5/15/05 Iraq Latifiyah Three Kuwaiti TV journalists, two Iraqi assistants and their driver are forced off the road by Jihadis then forced to kneel as their throats are cut.

5/15/05 Iraq Baqubah Two suicide bombers, one in a car the other following on foot, attempt an assasination. Five innocents are blown apart - another twenty badly injured.

5/14/05 India Kalakote The Mujahideen murder a father and his three sons as they are returning from their work in a coal mine.

5/14/05 Iraq Jurf al-Sakhar Three beheaded corpses are found with signs of torture.

5/14/05 India Srinigar A businessman is gunned down by Muslim militants.

5/14/05 Iraq Baghdad Civilians are victimized by another suicidal car bomber looking for a ticket to paradise.

5/13/05 Iraq Baqubah Fedayeen suicide bomber plows into a troop transport, killing two Iraqi soldiers and one civilian.

5/13/05 India Sangdan A government teacher is dragged out of a high school class and shot to death on the sidewalk by the Mujahideen.

5/13/05 Iraq Baiji Car bomb kills five Iraqis.

5/13/05 Chechnya Ishkoi-Yurt Islamists kill two policemen in an ambush. Three others are injured.

5/12/05 India Srinigar The Mujahideen target a school with grenades, killing two women and injuring about fifty others, including eleven children.

5/12/05 Iraq Baghdad Jihad terrorists detonate a car bomb outside a market and a cinema, killing seventeen people and injuring nearly seventy, some with severe burns and internal injuries.

Can you feel the peace yet?

:angel:
 
Gary,

Maybe these Muslims just had a bad day...

Should we judge their religion based on their writings, the fact that Islamic nations are active in murder, the slave trade, harboring terrorists and supporting terrorist organizations that muder, maim and torture millions?

Just because the founder of this religion was a thief, a liar, a pedophile, a hater of Jews and Christians and that Islamic nations riot and slaughter people at the drop of a hat give us the right to think that this religion is not a religion of peace does it?

The fact that every Arab nation has taken an Oath to exterminate Israel and kill all Jews doesn't make them bad does it?

Do ya think maybe we are being a little to harsh?

Well do ya? ;-)
 
edited for flaming...


And even if We had sent down unto them angels, and the dead had spoken to them, and We had gathered all things before their very eyes, even then they would not have believed, unless Allah willed, but most of them are ignorant!
(Surah al-Anaam 6:111)

and Allahs Words are always true.
 
So allah, muhammad's god, created and willed these ignorant people?
.....hmmmmm

In Christianity, we call that influence Satan!

:o :o

I find it very strange that muhammad's god requires you to murder others and blow yourself up to get to "paradise" to claim your 72 virgins!

:-?
 
Each day, the spirit that found Muhammad in the cave continues its work...

5/19/05 Iraq Baghdad Suicide bomber kills an Iraqi soldier at a checkpoint. Eight others are injured.

5/19/05 Iraq Mosul Fedayeen gunmen attack the house of a Sunni politician, killing seven people inside the home.

5/19/05 Afghanistan Zabul Taliban gunmen ambush and kill six humanitarian aid workers transporting the bodies from those killed in an attack the day before.

5/19/05 Iraq Samarrah In a brutal attack, Sunni gunmen kill a policeman and his elderly father as they are riding in a car.

5/18/05 Afghanstan Helmand A gruesome scene as an attack on a humanitarian project leaves five people dead.

5/18/05 Afghanistan Kabul Religious fundamentalists kill a 24-year-old woman in her home. She had been a pop music personality.

:o
 
PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY SERMON:

"Allah has tormented us with 'the people most hostile to the believers' - the Jews. 'Thou shalt find that the people most hostile to the believers to be the Jews and the polytheists.' Allah warned His beloved Prophet Muhammad about the Jews, who had killed their prophets, forged their Torah, and sowed corruption throughout their history.

"With the establishment of the state of Israel, the entire Islamic nation was lost, because Israel is a cancer spreading through the body of the Islamic nation, and because the Jews are a virus resembling AIDS, from which the entire world suffers.

"You will find that the Jews were behind all the civil strife in this world. The Jews are behind the suffering of the nations. "Ask Britain what it did to the Jews in the early sixth century. What did they do to the Jews? They expelled them, tortured them, and prevented them from entering Britain for more than 300 years. All this was because of what the Jews did in Britain. Ask France what it did to the Jews. They tortured them, expelled them, and burned their Talmud, because of the civil strife the Jews wanted to spark in France, in the days of Louis XIX. Ask Portugal what it did to the Jews. Ask Czarist Russia, which welcomed the Jews, who plotted to kill the Czar - so he massacred them. But don't ask Germany what it did to the Jews. It was the Jews who provoked Nazism to wage war against the entire world, when the Jews, using the Zionist movement, got other countries to wage an economic war on Germany and to boycott German merchandise. They provoked Russia, Britain, France, and Italy. This enraged the Germans toward the Jews, leading to the events of those days, which the Jews commemorate today.

"But they are committing worse deeds than those done to them in the Nazi war. Yes, perhaps some of them were killed and some burned, but they are inflating this in order to win over the media and gain the world's sympathy. The worst crimes in history were committed against the Jews, yet these crimes are no worse than what the Jews are doing in Palestine. What was done to the Jews was a crime, but isn't what the Jews are doing today in the land of Palestine not a crime?!

"Look at modern history. Where has Great Britain gone? Where has Czarist Russia gone? Where has France gone - France, which almost ruled the entire world? Where is Nazi Germany, which massacred millions and ruled the world? Where did all these superpowers go? He who made them disappear will make America disappear too, God willing. He who made Russia disappear overnight is capable of making America disappear and fall, Allah willing.

"We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule, because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout history. The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews - even the stones and trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the Prophet Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew."

(The preceding were excerpts from the official Friday sermon on Palestinian Authority TV. The speaker is Sheik Ibrahim Muderis, a paid employee of the PA. - May 13, 2005)

"a life of tranquility under our rule" ????
 
Jesus said: "By their fruits you will know them..."

5/23/05 India Kashmir In a series of overnight attacks, the Mujahideen hang a woman and shoot two other innocents to death.

5/23/05 Iraq Tal Afar Two suicidal religious extremists murder more than thirty people outside the house of a community leader with twin bombings.

5/23/05 Iraq Mahmoudiya A suicidal Sunni tries to drive his explosives-packed car into a mosque. Seven are killed and more than thirty hurt. Five killed are family members.

5/23/05 Iraq Baghdad Muslim extremists detonate a car bomb outside a Shiite restaurant, killing seven and injuring more then eighty. Many have serious injuries.

5/22/05 Iraq Baghdad Sunni radicals spray a car with automatic weapons fire, killing a top official and his driver.

5/20/05 Dagestan Makhachkala Gema’at Sharia assassinate a government official with a powerful bomb that also kills his driver and injures two children playing nearby.

5/20/05 India Moghla The Mujahideen ambush a security patrol from behind bushes, killing four Indian soldiers.

5/20/05 Iraq Baghdad Two civilians are killed by a suicide bomber. Three others are injured.

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