The serpent could not directly deceive Adam

[childeye]

So I think that if Eve had the knowledge of sin and death, good and evil, before Adam did, sin would have entered the world through her.

I see. But it also was pointed out, that the sin passed down is only recognized through the male lineage, so sin is not passed down through the female. It appears the male seed is predominant over the female genome. Otherwise Jesus being born of a mother who was a daughter of Adam, would still inherit sin. But since he was conceived of the Holy Spirit he was without sin. Good and evil = Light and the absence of Light.

 

[JohnDB]

I see. But it also was pointed out, that the sin passed down is only recognized through the male lineage, so sin is not passed down through the female. It appears the male seed is predominant over the female genome. Otherwise Jesus being born of a mother who was a daughter of Adam, would still inherit sin. But since he was conceived of the Holy Spirit he was without sin. Good and evil = Light and the absence of Light.

Unless a child is of a daughter of Abraham it isn't Jewish.

 

[childeye]

Everything reproduces after its own seed...
But the Seed of the woman was promised.
Galatians 3:16(NIV)

There is one Truth that can live in every person, but many lies that can exist in one person.

 

[JohnDB]

There is one Truth that can live in every man, but many lies that can exist in one man.

Now I'm lost.
Can you clarify this?
I don't think that you are being intentionally ugly...but it's going to read that way to some. So a clarification is needed.

 

[childeye]

Unless a child is of a daughter of Abraham it isn't Jewish.

For the sake of the chosen people bringing forth the anointed one, this is quite relevant. But for the sake of salvation to the world, it is not. Matthew 3:9.

 

[childeye]

Now I'm lost.
Can you clarify this?
I don't think that you are being intentionally ugly...but it's going to read that way to some. So a clarification is needed.

It's a comment on a spiritual matter. There is a single spiritual seed, not seeds, promised by God. It is the Christ. Hence there is One Truth that can live in every man. But there are many lies that can live in one person through carnal sin passed down unto all flesh. It is this seed that is the Spirit of Christ (the Word made flesh) that consumes the lies that manifest sin passed down in the flesh, even as it develops in one's heart. Hence there is enmity between her seed and the serpents seed, the spiritual seed and the carnal seed.

 

[Cygnus]

Well one thing's clear....it would not be useful as an analogy to illustrate Christ and his bride. That much we know.

I think the innocent animal that was killed to cover Adam and Eves nakedness was analogous to Christ.

 

[Cygnus]

But "what if" did not happen. Don't confuse or distract from what God teaches us. It takes away from the sound word of God and the seriousness of the consequences of disobedience and treats the word of God as a novel.

But I like the what if.
The bible says sin and death entered because of one man. Sometimes looking at a what if helps understand the what happened.

 

[Cygnus]

I think,
Nothing would have happened. Eve's eyes were not opened to the knowledge of good and evil until after Adam ate, too. She would not have known good and evil.
The sin nature passes to the children from their father, not their mother.
Jesus was born without the sin nature because God was His father.

Eve would not have to have been judged for her disobedience?

 

[Deborah13]

Eve would not have to have been judged for her disobedience?

I don't know.

 

[Cygnus]

I don't know.

In one of your previous post you said..."The sin nature passes to the children from their father, not their mother."...
If you are correct then their children would not have had a sin nature.

I think Eve would have been judged for her disobedience....and Jesus would have still come to save just Eve.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I think the innocent animal that was killed to cover Adam and Eves nakedness was analogous to Christ.

No question about it.

 

[Deborah13]

In one of your previous post you said..."The sin nature passes to the children from their father, not their mother."...
If you are correct then their children would not have had a sin nature.

???
Every child, except Jesus, had/has a natural father that passes on that nature to them, whether it be a son or a daughter.

I give you CARM...
https://carm.org/why-wasnt-jesus-born-original-sin

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes, just as Christ joined his bride in the condemnation of her sin.

This is interesting Jethro.
It's said when learning about A and E that Eve was the one who had to be tempted because God had not spoken to her directly, and so this made it easier for satan to convince her.

It's also said that Adam could have chosen NOT to eat the forbidden fruit and the sin nature would NOT have entered into man, since the Edenic Covenant was made between God and Adam, and the understanding was that ADAM was not to eat of the fruit. The covenant was not made between God and Eve and so Eve could not break it.

Eve was not malleable as Classik describes her. Adam could have been strong and not eaten of the fruit. After all, the man should be the head of the household, and this was God's first family.
But, as you stated, he chose to be one with his partner and supported her at that moment.

The pyysical, what we can see and touch, is many times more real to us than God, who cannot be seen.
God was not present when Adam took the apple, but Eve was. She must have been more real to him at that moment.

it is accepted theology that Adam was responsible for sin entering into the world, and not Eve.

BUT, we shouldn't play the blame game.
God asked Adam why he ate: Adam blamed Eve, and Eve blamed the serpent. We have a difficult time accepting responsibility for our sin.

Wondering

 

[Douglas Summers]

But I like the what if.
The bible says sin and death entered because of one man. Sometimes looking at a what if helps understand the what happened.

?

 

[Cygnus]

???
Every child, except Jesus, had/has a natural father that passes on that nature to them, whether it be a son or a daughter.

I give you CARM...
https://carm.org/why-wasnt-jesus-born-original-sin

The comment was based upon the "what if" thought about Adam and Eve...