Also test what comes from the pulpits in evangelical churches. Well, that's what it's like in my part of the world. We should expect the secular education to be just that - secular. God's message is not in the classroom.
Oz
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Also test what comes from the pulpits in evangelical churches. Well, that's what it's like in my part of the world. We should expect the secular education to be just that - secular. God's message is not in the classroom.
Oz
That's nice in your country but not always possible in mine. Try doing that in Indonesia, the Central African Republic, Somalia, China or Iran.
th1b.taylor
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The Progressive Left, Democrats or they go by a dozen other names giving credit to one another, but they are conniving to remove that right from the Christians in America right now. They continually screech that our children do not receive an adequate education. But when the Standard Tests are given the Christian Schooled and the Home Schooled compose almost all of the top five percent... sort of makes the claim ring hollow. But they will succeed before too long.
Sinthesis
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I know of plenty of false teachings throughout today's churches. Some are important, some are not. Warnings in scripture are meant in context. They are not necessarily about us, but always for us as examples. I am not grieved about today's world because I can appreciate how bad it has been in the past, and I perceive God working in mysterious ways with and through Christ's Body to make the world better. Read 1st Kings chapter 19 to see how easy it is to grieve over things not going the way you believe is best, even though God is still at work, and expects you to do your part.
Please provide a link that confirms this research.
One can't expect two hours or less at home compared to 7 or more to have an influence as effective as homeschooling or a Christian private school.bad friends corrupt good manners.
Since when was any false teaching unimportant? Who decides which is important and which is unimportant false teaching?
See this evidence of 'Benny Hinn and necromancy (speaking to the dead)'. Is this important or unimportant false teaching.
Gal 1:8 (ESV), 'But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed'.
We know how 2 Peter 2:1-3 (ESV) warns us about false prophets and false teachers: 'But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep'.
False teachers of any kind bring in destructive heresies to the church. No church leader with respect for Scripture will allow any false teaching - that contradicts Scripture - to be tolerated in the church.
When will there be an increase of false teaching? We are warned in 1 Tim 4:1-2 (ESV), 'Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared'.
I am constantly aware of the possibility of false teaching coming from the pulpit and especially from the Internet. We have to constantly be aware of those who 'secretly bring in destructive heresies'. There is no such thing as a false teaching that is not important. We have to alert believers to these destructive heresies.
Oz
Yes, we do have to be alert to the false teaching that is sown by liberal theological institutions of academia. However, I'm just as concerned about the false teaching that comes in local churches and here on the Internet.
I've mentioned examples such as Open Theism, but there are more:
- Promoters of annihilationism;
- Advocates of soul sleep (SDA);
- Those who deny hell (like Rob Bell);
- The prosperity 'gospel' (Prosperity Gospel has gone Viral);
That's not the issue I raised. You might be able to provide and pay for a good Christian school in your community. For many Christians in my community, there is only one Christian school and it's so expensive that many parents couldn't think of paying for it.
As for home-schooling, that's a lot of hard work and it needs a strong motivation before one begins to pursue it.
Oz
GodsGrace
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Hi Ozspen,
Are you not in the U.S.? I cannot speak to other countries, but in the U.S. God is trampled underfoot.
Things were going a lot better here when the Pledge of Allegiance (to the U.S.) was recited every morning before school began- and I think a prayer was said too; cannot remember that as well.
I can even agree that schools are secular and maybe God should not be taught there or even mentioned there,
but things were a lot better when you COULD mention God! I believe this would be one of the items on Douglas' list of things that have changed for the worse.
Not to speak of our universities. Kids have been failed and reprimanded because they insisted on their rights to be in favor of creationism, and thusly, God. We all must know someone this has happened to and we hear about it on the news all the time (in conservative outlets).
So I'd say that not teaching religion would be okay, but trampling God underfoot is not okay. Do we Christians not have the equal right to believe without being ridiculed and/or scolded? Do only secularists/atheists have the right NOT to believe?
Wondering
GodsGrace
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AMEN!
GodsGrace
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I'm sorry Oz. Hadn't seen this post. Have to get used to this.
Yes. A christian education is very expensive. And not available to all.
But I refer to my other post to you. A secular education would be okay if only God weren't so trampled!
Another way God is trampled is by not teaching respect for authority, teachers dress like students - you can hardly tell the difference - insisting on good manners, decent language.
Gosh. I'm starting to feel very old and will end it here!
Wondering
In my county,more don't attend public schools then they do we have four religious high schools.it's doable .I know parents who make together only 40k a year and homeschool. They scrimp and save do provide. One of them Is a coworker.
Do you have the time working two jobs to educate and assume by going to church twice a week and maybe a bible study here or there at home that your churched raised kids will stay in christ? Now son after 8 hours of school .sit down and read up on apologetics by r Zachariah learn the evolution is false.that takes just as much dedication.
Jethro Bodine
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When?
When it involves matters of conscience.
For example, clean/unclean foods, holy days--Romans 14.
Douglas Summers
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True Reba, But before those in education changed the curriculum had to be either anti-Christian or those who were taught by one of the six churches in Christ's revelation that never overcame by the blood of Christ. Their teachings were by those who usurped Christ authority, settled down where Satan's throne is (this world system). Those who were rich with material goods and did not think they needed Christ. (a social club church) and those who forgot the love of Christ for mankind. (Matt. 13: 8-22).
from my point of view...
I dont believe man can over come Christ's authority.. Man can not our do God. ..
Mat_28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
i dont believe 'they' are usurping authority I believe more that we fail to use His authority.
2Ch_7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
I dont believe man can over come Christ's authority.. Man can not our do God. ..
Mat_28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
i dont believe 'they' are usurping authority I believe more that we fail to use His authority.
2Ch_7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Douglas Summers
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I read many books, but none have really inspired me in teaching other than those who expound on doctrine and purpose. (Rom. 8: 28-29).
About my point of the president saying he was a Christian. If people who look up to the president think he is a Christian, and they have not had called teachers to teach them, then they think being a Christian is to follow after those who make great claims. (Matt. 12: 43-45) Self reformation. Christ is in all the Scriptures. OT and NT.
Douglas Summers
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Not overcome Christ authority, but usurped His authority. Set their self up as taking the place of Christ as thou they are speaking for Christ. Look at the Churches that have been lead to believe contrary to Scripture, because they claim they speak for Christ. (Many shall come in my name and deceive many . (Matt. 24: 4-5; 11-12)
