The Temple of His Body.

[Chopper]

Your first reply was: "Free my friend. I have looked closely at each of kc1's theological statements with an open spiritual mind and I see truth in each one. Perhaps not exactly how he phrased them, but truth never the less. I'm an avid student of Revelation and that's where you will find nuggets of truth."

No attempt to answer there. Your second reply was: "Free. We all end up with preconceptions as to our own interpretations of the Book of Revelation. I might believe in a pre-trib rapture as the Church at Philadelphia promises and you might not. Therefore a certain statement concerning that would color your acceptance of a truth stated, where I would accept it.

Prophesy is a big one. I might accept a truth that someone states where as you might believe the prophesy speaks to something entirely different based on preconceptions."

Ok, I suppose that sort of answers the preconceptions part but it didn't tell what you found to be true.


Not textbook, no. A preconception is: "an idea or opinion that someone has before learning about or experiencing something directly" (Merriam-Webster). As it is the opposite of "known facts," I don't think that was the word you were looking for. Preconceptions, properly defined, does work somewhat but we must also consider "biases". Both are based on what one thinks or believes are the facts--one out of ignorance, one out of knowledge--but those "facts" may not be facts at all, they could be error.


Revelation 5 has nothing to do with Jesus being in the grave for three days. It says the Lamb was slain, yes, but there is simply no way to draw a conclusion about three days and then three thousand years. That is going far beyond what the text says. Then we have the very plain and clear teaching from John 2 that Jesus was speaking of his body when he said "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." Full stop. And to top it off, as I have shown, Peter was most definitely not making some sort of mathematical equation where one day is literally equal to one thousand years. It is a simile, a figure of speech, to make the very clear point that God's timing is not our timing, as the context indicates.

Apart from Scripture being quoted, I see no truth. It is just someone trying to force connections on Scripture where there are none. As has been said, we are not to add to Scripture. We ought never make it say more than it does and we ought never make it say less.


It is not "preconceived dogma of a different explanation," it is simply biblically wrong.

Ok Free, have it you're way. It clearly is a matter, it appears to me, of my seeing Truth where you don't. Perhaps some day you will. I see no positive brotherly fellowship in keeping this debate going any further because this discussion is in the shadows of debate.

 

[kc1]

The fullness of the Church of God is also represented in (Heb. 12: 22-23)

‘But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect’,

Can someone explain what the terms mean: ‘church of the firstborn’, ‘an innumerable company of angels’,’ the general assembly’ and ’the spirits of just men made perfect’?

 

[JAG ..]

I like what James Ryle had to say . . . .

James Ryle,
"Sooner or later the last word will be spoken. All debate will cease, and arguments
will come to an end. Somebody somehow in someway will be able to sum it all up
and put everything and everyone in their place. That somebody is Jesus.

Until then we are surrounded by a hurricane of opinions, ideas, suggestions,
postulations, pontifications, exaggerations, exclamations, theories, concepts,
notions, imaginations, vanities, snippets, and a host of other verbal squalls
that wreck lives and strew debris across the landscape.

The wind blows faster and faster, the swirl moves more and more quickly — gathering
speed and force. The vortex of the man-made Blow Cloud sucks virtually everything
and everyone into it spin. Soon it will reach such velocity that one will hardly be able
to put a clear thought on the table for discussion.

BOOM! That’s when a trumpet blast will call the whole thing to a screeching halt and
we will find ourselves dizzy with nonsense as we stand before the Lord. He will look
us over, and His gaze will humble us one and all.

And then He will speak — and what He says goes. He will have the final word on
everything and everyone. It would be a good idea to become friends with Him now,
don’t you think?"

This is exactly how I feel my friend.

Regarding what I bolded red in the quote block up there:

The good news is:
All of that conglomeration of confusion is only true in Thread World, it is not true
in Real World.

The Internet is not Real World. Rather the Internet is somewhat of a Fantasy World.
After well over a decade of reading threads across the Internet, one comes to realize
the Internet has significant elements of the weird and the fantastic that haunt threads.

Why so? Because Internet-Digital World-Thread World is a magnet that attracts significant
numbers of people that could not possibly get a hearing for their unorthodox crazy weirdo
ideas and beliefs anywhere else but on the Internet. Back in Real World they would be
totally ignored or treated much worse. And they know this.

But here in Digital World, Pure Ignorance is respected and can get a hearing. And Pure
Ignorance can repeatedly get a hearing in thread after thread after thread all across
the Internet as long as they keep the Terms Of Service on the various forums. And
there are hundreds on the Internet that have learned how to "push the envelope"
just far enough to where they escape getting banned from the various forums -- while
lingering on for decades publishing their Pure Ignorance forward year after year in
thread after thread. These are the ones that create what is bolded red up there in
the quote block.

Thank God Pure Ignorance is denied a hearing in Real World. Back in Real World they
would be told to "sit down and shut up" and if they did not comply they would immediately
be shown the door. But inside Digital World Pure Ignorance can not only survive, it can thrive
too. My family and I attend a large church -- $10,000,000 infrastructure plus a huge World Missions
outreach. Show up at my Christian Church with crazy weirdo ideas and you will immediately be shown
the door. Real World does not tolerate Pure Ignorance and Weirdo-ness -- there is more important
work to do, for example, carrying out the Lord Jesus' Great Commission and supporting organizations
like the Gideons International and building a large growing Church Youth Program and building a
large growing vibrant Music Program.

Nothing in the bolded red conglomeration of confusion has ever occurred within my Christian Church.
And it does not ever occur in any of the other churches in my area that I am acquainted with. In order
to find the mad-house confusion described in the bolded red up there --- one has to enter Thread World or
visit Washington D.C. and see and hear the politicians "eat each other alive" with insults and threats
and often times what appears to be pure hate.

 

[Nathan]

The truth is known by those who it is given too. The internet world is no different than the real world. Internet forum sites are just as varied as local church sites. There is really no difference apart from the lack of physical presence.

Each physical church you go to is going to say what they believe and preach is the truth, no different than here, and no different than in times past - including Christ's.

People know the truth when they hear/read it - regardless where it's spoken/written. It all comes down to if the person is willling to believe it or deny it.

 

[Chopper]

Hello my friend kc1. Your question is about the following Scripture from the Word of God....

Hebrews 12:22 "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel."

We who are Christians; all who are under the new dispensation. The design is to “contrast” the Christian dispensation with the Jewish system of religion, and to show that its excellencies and advantages were far superior to the religion of their fathers. Mt. Sion is where Moses dictated Israel's Commands, Statues & Rules. These were Israel's fathers religion.

Hebrews 12:2 "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." This is where religion changes from Israel's (Mt. Sion to Mt. Zion)

Hebrews 11:14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

I'm sorry, I'll have to leave right now, things to do. I'll finish this tomorrow, Lord willing.

 

[JAG ..]

The internet world is no different than the real world. Internet forum
sites are just as varied as local church sites. There is really no
difference apart from the lack of physical presence.

I disagree.

Pure Ignorance and doctrinal heresy is respected enough in Internet forums so that
it can get a hearing repeatedly in thread after thread after thread all across
the Internet as long as they keep the Terms Of Service on the various forums. And
there are weirdos on the Internet that have learned how to "push the envelope"
just far enough to where they escape getting banned from the various forums -- while
lingering on for decades publishing their Pure Ignorance and doctrinal heresy forward
year after year in thread after thread all across the Internet. None of this would be
tolerated in any Bible believing Christian Church. They would refuse to give Pure
Ignorance and doctrinal heresy a permanent platform to speak to the Church year
after year. But Internet forums, all across Digital World, do exactly that. And this is
one big difference in Digital World and Real World.

I'm not on a crusade against Internet Forums, merely pointing out one truth about them.
What I wrote up there is the truth and everybody who is familiar with Internet Forum
threads knows that its the truth. There is a lot of other points that can be made -- but
none of those points are going to void, in any way whatsoever, the one truth I pointed
out in my post up there.

Then in another area, the area of misbehavior:
Who is there, with any significant experience in threads in forums on the Internet, that
has not witnessed thread after thread turn into ugly near-hysterical rants and had to
be closed down? When was the last time that sort of thing happened, in principle, in
any local church within your frame of reference? Answer: In all probability, never.

Conclusion: There is a huge difference in Digital World and in Real World.

 

[Nathan]

I disagree.

Pure Ignorance and doctrinal heresy is respected enough in Internet forums so that
it can get a hearing repeatedly in thread after thread after thread all across
the Internet as long as they keep the Terms Of Service on the various forums. And
there are weirdos on the Internet that have learned how to "push the envelope"
just far enough to where they escape getting banned from the various forums -- while
lingering on for decades publishing their Pure Ignorance and doctrinal heresy forward
year after year in thread after thread all across the Internet. None of this would be
tolerated in any Bible believing Christian Church. They would refuse to give Pure
Ignorance and doctrinal heresy a permanent platform to speak to the Church year
after year. But Internet forums, all across Digital World, do exactly that. And this is
one big difference in Digital World and Real World.

I'm not on a crusade against Internet Forums, merely pointing out one truth about them.
What I wrote up there is the truth and everybody who is familiar with Internet Forum
threads knows that its the truth. There is a lot of other points that can be made -- but
none of those points are going to void, in any way whatsoever, the one truth I pointed
out in my post up there.

Then in another area, the area of misbehavior:
Who is there, with any significant experience in threads in forums on the Internet, that
has not witnessed thread after thread turn into ugly near-hysterical rants and had to
be closed down? When was the last time that sort of thing happened, in principle, in
any local church within your frame of reference? Answer: In all probability, never.

Conclusion: There is a huge difference in Digital World and in Real World.

One nice thing about the internet forums is at least you have a record of what is said, and can go back to see what people are talking about.

Case in point, you pulled part of what I said out and thought it meant one thing - when in reality I was talking about something totally different.

Of course there are HUGE differences in the internet vs real world. But, to your point, I agree to an extent - and that is ignorance is slightly encouraged in the local church(most want you to listen not talk) and heresy is just as rampant, except you do not hear it as much because you have one guy that talks most of the time.

The nice thing about internet forums, that you don't get in the local church, is that it drives you to actually think - instead of being told what to think.

 

[kc1]

Hello my friend kc1. Your question is about the following Scripture from the Word of God....

Hebrews 12:22 "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel."

We who are Christians; all who are under the new dispensation. The design is to “contrast” the Christian dispensation with the Jewish system of religion, and to show that its excellencies and advantages were far superior to the religion of their fathers. Mt. Sion is where Moses dictated Israel's Commands, Statues & Rules. These were Israel's fathers religion.

Hebrews 12:2 "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." This is where religion changes from Israel's (Mt. Sion to Mt. Zion)

Hebrews 11:14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

I'm sorry, I'll have to leave right now, things to do. I'll finish this tomorrow, Lord willing.

Hello, Chopper.
Perhaps the Apostle Paul thought the same as you. But the prophets did not always understand what they were talking about. What does the Author of Scripture tell us? What do these terms mean: ‘church of the firstborn’, ‘an innumerable company of angels’,’ the general assembly’ and ’the spirits of just men made perfect’? Why is this event mentioned in the past tense?

 

[Chopper]

I disagree.

Pure Ignorance and doctrinal heresy is respected enough in Internet forums so that
it can get a hearing repeatedly in thread after thread after thread all across
the Internet as long as they keep the Terms Of Service on the various forums. And
there are weirdos on the Internet that have learned how to "push the envelope"
just far enough to where they escape getting banned from the various forums -- while
lingering on for decades publishing their Pure Ignorance and doctrinal heresy forward
year after year in thread after thread all across the Internet. None of this would be
tolerated in any Bible believing Christian Church. They would refuse to give Pure
Ignorance and doctrinal heresy a permanent platform to speak to the Church year
after year. But Internet forums, all across Digital World, do exactly that. And this is
one big difference in Digital World and Real World.

I'm not on a crusade against Internet Forums, merely pointing out one truth about them.
What I wrote up there is the truth and everybody who is familiar with Internet Forum
threads knows that its the truth. There is a lot of other points that can be made -- but
none of those points are going to void, in any way whatsoever, the one truth I pointed
out in my post up there.

Then in another area, the area of misbehavior:
Who is there, with any significant experience in threads in forums on the Internet, that
has not witnessed thread after thread turn into ugly near-hysterical rants and had to
be closed down? When was the last time that sort of thing happened, in principle, in
any local church within your frame of reference? Answer: In all probability, never.

Conclusion: There is a huge difference in Digital World and in Real World.

I have read your argument with Nathan's post. Actually I agree with Nathan. I see very little difference between the worldly forums and worldly internet communications in general. There does seem, to me, that there can be differences in Christian Forums, much like the differences in local Bible Believing Churches. I lean toward "Holiness Baptist or Pentecostal Churches" without the legalism, and those who are really legalistic. The whole "Brethren" fellowships, not only lean towards legalism, and are separated from other Brethren Fellowships because of a simple difference between buttons on shirts and pants, versus snaps.

 

[JAG ..]

One nice thing about the internet forums is at least you have a record of
what is said, and can go back to see what people are talking about.

Good point.

Case in point, you pulled part of what I said out and thought it meant one
thing - when in reality I was talking about something totally different.

/grin We the calm scholars, **disinterested, unexcitable, and determined to
communicate with each other, always allow our friends to "revise and
extend" their remarks just like they do in "the greatest deliberative body in
the world" the United States Senate.

**ie intellectually willing to follow the evidence anywhere it goes, all the while
keeping our personal biases and strong prejudices under control.

Of course there are HUGE differences in the internet vs real world.

Yes amen.

The Internet has given permanent voice to significant numbers of the clinically
insane. Please do not interpret my "clinically insane" as a hyperbole. It is not. I mean
to say that the identical same kind of people that would be locked up in insane
asylums, but have not yet been apprehended, are out here posting on the Internet.

Then there is what they call the "Dark Internet" where genuine criminals gather to
advocate a wide variety of criminal activity --- and these are not insignificant numbers
of criminals either.

Then in between the clinically insane and the criminals are the weirdos who are clearly
weirdos and who could not get a hearing anywhere in Real World. They would be
immediately shown the door and told not to come back. (Perhaps you are not familiar
with a wide range of what is being said in forums and posted as OP's across the Internet.
I can assure you that CF.net is not your typical posting forum.)

And keep in mind that my point was in response to Chopper's post up there about all
the confusion and bickering going on in the world of human "communication."

But, to your point, I agree to an extent - and that is ignorance is slightly encouraged
in the local church (most want you to listen not talk)

It can't be any other way. Without "listen and not talk" you'd have utter chaos. If the entire
church had the same "talk privileges" as the Pastor and other elected church leaders, you'd
have all the belligerent types (lets call 'em "carnal Christians") interrupting wherever they
felt "led by the Spirit" to speak out and "tell the truth." . . . lol . . . If it kept going like this, you'd
eventually have church fights ending in church splits and utter confusion.

and heresy is just as rampant, except you do not hear it as much because you have one
guy that talks most of the time.

I'll have to disagree with that. At least as applied to the type of churches we attend and are
within our frame of reference.

In fact the Internet is saturated and packed with doctrinal heresy. The Mormons are out
here, and the JW's, and every other known cult on the planet. Then we have the fringe
elements of both Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox who have clearly gone off the
deep end and are rejected by their mother church.

I recently read a thread where a poster who had racked up several hundred posts on that
forum, seriously claimed to be God. You might say, "Ah he was merely making some
points where he needed to say that to get across his ideas." No! He was dead serious
in claiming to be God. Yes that's right. He was claiming to be the one who had created
the world. And this was on a major well known Christian forum too.

The nice thing about internet forums, that you don't get in the local church, is that it drives
you to actually think - instead of being told what to think.

I disagree with that too. I don't know what kind of church you attend, but the one I attend
has a "teaching pastor" who preaches exegetical sermons, carefully taking apart the Biblical
texts and examining them in detail --- so in-depth Bible study characterizes the church my wife
and I attend.

 

[Nathan]

I disagree with that too. I don't know what kind of church you attend, but the one I attend
has a "teaching pastor" who preaches exegetical sermons, carefully taking apart the Biblical
texts and examining them in detail --- so in-depth Bible study characterizes the church my wife
and I attend.

Do you believe everything he teaches? If you disagreed with him, would he allow you to say so in front of everyone?

 

[JAG ..]

I have read your argument with Nathan's post. Actually I agree with Nathan.
I see very little difference between the worldly forums and worldly internet
communications in general.

♦ I don't think Nathan is making the point you think he is making (what I bolded red).

♦ I know that I'm not making that point, and have never made that point (what I bolded red).

♦ However I do agree with your point. I do not see any significant difference between
worldly forums and worldly Internet communications in general.

 

[JAG ..]

Do you believe everything he teaches?

No.

Its rare that any two human beings fully agree on all
doctrinal points.

Of course, my wife & I attend an orthodox Bible believing
Baptist-type Christian Church and so we never hear anything
that we strongly disagree with.

If you disagreed with him, would he allow you to say so
in front of everyone?

"In front of everyone"!__Nathan

Of course he wouldn't. I wouldn't attend or support any local
church where the pastor and leadership allowed the members
to stand up during church services and disagree with the pastor's
sermons "in front of everyone." That would be a chaos-producing
policy and therefore absurd, and would net-result reduce the church
services to utter confusion. It'd be highly disruptive and time consuming
as well --- for the disagreeing church members to be allowed to present
their disagreements "in front of everyone."

I'm primarily interested in attending and supporting the kind of Christian
Church that pushes forward worldwide Christendom and Christendom's
Great Commission to "disciple the nations." I look at public disagreements
with the pastor of the church as unproductive kindergarten activities and
would be gone, in a flash, from any church that allowed that.

 

[Nathan]

No.

Its rare that any two human beings fully agree on all
doctrinal points.

Of course, my wife & I attend an orthodox Bible believing
Baptist-type Christian Church and so we never hear anything
that we strongly disagree with.




"In front of everyone"!__Nathan

Of course he wouldn't. I wouldn't attend or support any local
church where the pastor and leadership allowed the members
to stand up during church services and disagree with the pastor's
sermons "in front of everyone." That would be a chaos-producing
policy and therefore absurd, and would net-result reduce the church
services to utter confusion. It'd be highly disruptive and time consuming
as well --- for the disagreeing church members to be allowed to present
their disagreements "in front of everyone."

I'm primarily interested in attending and supporting the kind of Christian
Church that pushes forward worldwide Christendom and Christendom's
Great Commission to "disciple the nations." I look at public disagreements
with the pastor of the church as unproductive kindergarten activities and
would be gone, in a flash, from any church that allowed that.

Was Paul acting as a kindergartner when he opposed Peter?

There are things to do in order, and then there are things to do in truth. Modern religion, and what we deem as church 'services', are nothing but glorified Greek theatrical performances.

That being said, I disagree with a LOT of what the preacher says at the 'church' I attend. I have never gotten up and confronted him......just in case anyone was curious.

The point I was intending to get to is that we pick and choose what we are going to do based on what we like. Case in point, you would "be gone, in a flash, from any church that allowed that". Church versus internet forums, are the same thing. We pick and choose what we want, what we like.

The nice thing is, on the internet forum, you can say something without being removed from the room(unless it is just totally inappropriate), and a wide range of things can be thrown out there for discussion - unlike a local church where you follow the specific leading of a few.

 

[kc1]

Nathan and JAG.., Could you say something on the title topic?

 

[JAG ..]

Nathan and JAG.., Could you say something on the title topic?

Yes.

the Book of Revelation

Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr. is currently working on a commentary on the Book of
Revelation written from the Postmillennial perspective. This commentary is expected
to run some 800 pages and is anticipated to become a classic and also to make a
tremendous contribution to the ever-growing body of theological and eschatological
works supporting Postmillennialism and a Postmillennial interpretation of the Book
of Revelation.

 

[JAG ..]

Was Paul acting as a kindergartner when he opposed Peter?

You are seriously going to offer that as a legitimate parallel to a
disagreeable church member announcing his disagreement with the
pastor's sermon "in front of everybody"?

You are well aware that Paul and Peter were 2 of the 13 Apostles
personally called by the Lord Jesus Himself, and that they held special
office, and even special powers (both raised the dead), and they had
a special place of authority within Christendom in that both wrote, under
the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, parts of the New Testament.

You are also well aware that the Apostle Peter was doctrinally incorrect on
a major Christian doctrine, with regard to his practice, and that the Apostle
Paul was correct in correcting Peter's incorrect practice.

You knew all that before you offered that/them as a parallel example of a church
member standing up "in front of everybody" and announcing his disagreement
with the pastor's sermon. Yet you offered that anyway . . .lol . . .
Are you "pulling my leg"?

There are things to do in order, and then there are things to do in truth. Modern
religion, and what we deem as church 'services', are nothing but glorified Greek
theatrical performances.

I strongly disagree with that.
Perhaps you need to change denominations and locate better churches?

__________

We don't want to hijack this thread.
Maybe we can "take this up" later
in another thread.

 

[Nathan]

You are seriously going to offer that as a legitimate parallel to a
disagreeable church member announcing his disagreement with the
pastor's sermon "in front of everybody"?

You are well aware that Paul and Peter were 2 of the 13 Apostles
personally called by the Lord Jesus Himself, and that they held special
office, and even special powers (both raised the dead), and they had
a special place of authority within Christendom in that both wrote, under
the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, parts of the New Testament.

You are also well aware that the Apostle Peter was doctrinally incorrect on
a major Christian doctrine, with regard to his practice, and that the Apostle
Paul was correct in correcting Peter's incorrect practice.

You knew all that before you offered that/them as a parallel example of a church
member standing up "in front of everybody" and announcing his disagreement
with the pastor's sermon. Yet you offered that anyway . . .lol . . .
Are you "pulling my leg"?



I strongly disagree with that.
Perhaps you need to change denominations and locate better churches?

__________

We don't want to hijack this thread.
Maybe we can "take this up" later
in another thread.

Yea, I guess I was tugging a little. I for sure think that we are probably not seeing the same things.

 

[JAG ..]

Yea, I guess I was tugging a little. I for sure think that we are probably
not seeing the same things.

It was nice chatting with you. We'll chat again sometime, hopefully.
Meanwhile God bless . . . and be sure to watch out for that lunatic fringe
out there roaming around on the Worldwide Web

Later . . .

 

[Chopper]

Hello, Chopper.
Perhaps the Apostle Paul thought the same as you. But the prophets did not always understand what they were talking about. What does the Author of Scripture tell us? What do these terms mean: ‘church of the firstborn’, ‘an innumerable company of angels’,’ the general assembly’ and ’the spirits of just men made perfect’? Why is this event mentioned in the past tense?

Hello my Russian Brother & very good friend. If you'll notice my last statement on the post in question, I said that I would finish my reply the next day. I'm terribly sorry that I didn't get back to you, so sorry. I couldn't explain Hebrews 12:22 - 24 as well as my favorite Theologian Professor of the Greek language, Dr. Kenneth Wuest. This is how he interpreted those verses....

Hebrews 12:22-24

"Instead of returning to Mount Sinai, the readers are urged to continue their approach to Mount Sion, the spiritual mountain and city where God dwells and reigns. Paul in Gal_4:19-31 contrasts the First Testament with the New Testament by speaking of Sinai and the Jerusalem which is above. The writer here defines what he means by Mount Sion in the words "even unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem." The angels are introduced here because they are the usual accompaniment of God’s glory and ministers of His will. The words "general assembly" are the translation of paneguris, "a festal gathering of the whole people to celebrate public games or other solemnities" (classical meaning). Here it refers to a festal gathering of the holy angels, and to the saints of God, living and dead. The word "church" is the translation of ekklesia which means "a called-out body of people, an assembly." The words "spirits of just men made perfect" refer to the saints in heaven. The festal character of this great company is set in sharp contrast to the sombre, terrible appearance of Sinai. Thus, does the writer warn his readers not to go back to the First Testament, to Sinai, and judgment, and exhorts them to go on to the New Testament and join this vast multitude composing this festal gathering.
But best of all, the readers, if they place their faith in Messiah as High Priest, come to Jesus, the mediator of the New Testament. They come also to the blood of sprinkling, Jesus’ blood, which speaks better things than the blood of the sacrificial animal which Abel offered. It is not Abel’s own blood which is compared here with Jesus’ blood, for the historical background and the analysis of the book show that the purpose of the writer is to prove that Jesus’ blood of the New Testament is better than and takes the place of the animal blood shed under the First Testament. Our exegesis of this verse, therefore, is in line with the analysis of the letter. Again, the writer confronts his readers with the superiority of Jesus’ blood as over against that of the Levitical sacrifices.
Translation: But ye have come to Mount Sion, even to the city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable multitude of angels, to a festal gathering, and to the assembly of the first born who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men who have been made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of the new testament, and to the blood which speaks better things than that of Abel."

I hope this helps.

Love You,
Chopper