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The Tower of "Babel"

Is this story a literal account, a parable, metaphorical, allegorical, or perhaps simply an etiology (a story, whether it is fact or fiction, that simple explains the origin of something)?

Multiple cultures throughout the ancient world had a "Tower of Babel" story, though the time period, name and location differed by culture. Some of those cultures claim that their tower was over [~600 feet] high, while others claim to measure more than [~5 miles] high.

My view is that it is simply an etiology. No one really knew why there were different languages, so a story evolved to explain the phenomenon.

Opinions?

Very literal...........

Genesis 11:6 "And the Lord said. Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

That thing "which they have imagined to do", is "Babel". Remember, the Hebrew word for the word "Babel", is "confusion". They turned the ways of God into confusion, and followed their own imaginations. They discarded the covenants and laws that God had given to Noah and his generations.
God is now going to teach them a little humility, and try to turn them back to Himself.

Genesis 11:7 "Go to, let Us go down, and confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."

In the term, "Go to, let us go down" when used in other passages in the Hebrew text [18:21, Exodus 3:8], is always used in Judgment. It is used in contrast to man's commitment, or in verse four; "Go to, let us go up". It is God and the angels that performed this act of judgment. This was an miracle, for all people of the earth were as one family, and of the same language. However, their unity will be divided by their languages.

Genesis 11:8 "So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build a city."

This word "scattered" is the used in Isaiah 8:9, and the reason for the scattering was to preserve the revelation contained in the Zodiac and the constellation. The signs in the heavens are the plan of God; and the promise of God to man of a coming Messiah. Remember, it was God's band of angels that did the scattering, and God planted the confusion through their languages.

People are always influenced by the supernatural form and activity, and in the futuristic sense, all peoples of the earth will again be committed to supernatural powers, and those powers will be the powers Satan will be given by God, when he comes to earth as the Antichrist. Mankind will be looking for a man to rise from the human masses, and not the supernatural form of Satan, coming as the Antichrist. Satan will come pretending to be the Messiah, and he will have lies, wonders and deception of a great magnitude.

Genesis 11:9 "Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."

Keep in mind that this event is called "Babel", and in the Hebrew it means "confusion". It was through the confusion of languages, that God scattered the peoples of the earth. It was also the substituting of God's plan and covenants for their own man made devices, and religious form, which is called Babylon, or Confusion. It is God's way of cutting off communication between families.

There is another parallel between Genesis and Revelation, and this is brought out in Mark 13, and Acts 2. This parallel is in the way that the Holy Spirit of God caused the people of all languages of the earth to understand in the same tongue [language]. When the Spirit filled people spoke, there was no need of an interpreter, and there was no confusion in understanding in anyone's mind. Peter told us in Acts 2:14-21 that this is what the prophet Joel spoke of [in Joel 2:28-32], and Peter said that this will also happen in the last days.

The time is coming when all the peoples of the world will hear the words of the Holy Spirit spoken through God's elect, and they will understand even in the dialect of the area they were born. This time will come shortly.


Verse 9 tells us that God did this,so how you can say otherwise is beyond me!!!!!
 
In reference to post #80, if anyone is looking for a scientific research paper on genetics that disproves "Out of Africa" (which is a 19th century racist theory), here is it.

Re-Examining the "Out of Africa" Theory and the Origin of Europeoids (Caucasoids) in Light of DNA Genealogy (Download the PDF if you want to read all. You can also ignore the ybp unit (years before present) because, genetics cannot give any timeline.)

FYI, genetics had advanced so much in the last decade that much of the earlier theories must be re-examined.
 
Jasher 9:35 “And the Lord smote the three divisions that were there, and he punished them according to their works and designs; those who said, We will ascend to heaven and serve our gods, became like apes and elephants; and those who said, We will smite the heaven with arrows, the Lord killed them, one man through the hand of his neighbor; and the third division of those who said, We will ascend to heaven and fight against him, the Lord scattered them throughout the earth.

(Note: book of Jasher is found among dead sea scrolls, thus authentic. If the verse says, they became like apes and elephants, is it possible that event did really happen and the people worshiped them as gods?)

Do you believe every word of every scroll that is found among the Dead Sea Scrolls?

Furthermore, can you provide a link that clarifies that the Book of Jasher(including Jasher "9:35") was even found among the Dead Sea Scrolls?
 
Oops.. that wasn't Jasher but a different explanation was given to show differences in dead sea scrolls to prove Jasher was indeed true.

http://www.wnae.org/jasherrevealed.htm
Yes, the Bible refers to the Book of Jasher. The book from which you extracted your passage about apes and elephants isn't the same book. I find it hilarious that you get your "history" from such an idiotic forgery. Keep 'em comin'.
 
Yes, the Bible refers to the Book of Jasher. The book from which you extracted your passage about apes and elephants isn't the same book. I find it hilarious that you get your "history" from such an idiotic forgery. Keep 'em comin'.

There are three versions of Book of Jasher but only one is real. I believe the other two which are forgery are nearly out of circulation today.
 
There are three versions of Book of Jasher but only one is real. I believe the other two which are forgery are nearly out of circulation today.
Yeah, you can classify Jasher 9:35 in the "Forgery" section.
 
Yeah, you can classify Jasher 9:35 in the "Forgery" section.

Let me know how it is forgery. Just because it doesn't have earlier manuscripts doesn't make it forgery. If that is the case, textus receptus will also fall into the same category which will put KJV as a translated forgery.
 
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