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THE TRINITY DOCTRINE-Is it Biblical?

WalterandDebbie

WalterandDebbie

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THE TRINITY DOCTRINE --
Is It Biblical?

The TRINITY doctrine claims that God is a monolithic
"Three-in-One" Godhead composed of three Personalites,
the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Where did this doctrine
come from? Is it Biblical? Why is the word "Trinity"
NOT ONCE found in the Scriptures? If God is a "Trinity,"
then which one is really the "Father" of Christ -- the Father?
or the Holy Spirit which begot Him? (Matt.1:18, 20.) Its
high time we take a careful look at this strange but well-
nigh universal doctrine among Catholics and Protestants!
Your own salvation could very well be at stake!!!

William F. Dankenbring
Mark 7:1-16.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+7:1-16&version=NKJV

http://www.triumphpro.com/trinity-disproved.htm
 
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WalterandDebbie said:
THE TRINITY DOCTRINE --
Is It Biblical?

The TRINITY doctrine claims that God is a monolithic
"Three-in-One" Godhead composed of three Personalites,
the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Where did this doctrine
come from? Is it Biblical? Why is the word "Trinity"
NOT ONCE found in the Scriptures? If God is a "Trinity,"
then which one is really the "Father" of Christ -- the Father?
or the Holy Spirit which begot Him? (Matt.1:18, 20.) Its
high time we take a careful look at this strange but well-
nigh universal doctrine among Catholics and Protestants!
Your own salvation could very well be at stake!!!

William F. Dankenbring
Mark 7:1-16.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark 7:1-16&version=NKJV

http://www.triumphpro.com/trinity-disproved.htm
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Being a teacher I can promise you that it is biblically correct. The Nave's Topical is a reasonably priced resource that will never out live it's usefulness and soft copies are downloadable all over the web. The scriptures begins teaching the Triune Godhead in the first chapter of Genesis when it reads "let us."

Angel (holy trinity)

 
I"m 54. I automatically assume that anyone more than ten years younger than me is a moron, and anyone ten years or more older than I cannot be wrong on anything. :)
 
I suppose Godhead is described in nature.
Romans 1:19
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Jesus demonstrates the father he sees (just as the moon reflects light.

eddif
 
Pizza said:
I"m 54. I automatically assume that anyone more than ten years younger than me is a moron, and anyone ten years or more older than I cannot be wrong on anything. :)
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By that standard, I guess he's right then, must we bow or just you?:thud
 
WalterandDebbie said:
THE TRINITY DOCTRINE --
Is It Biblical?

The TRINITY doctrine claims that God is a monolithic
"Three-in-One" Godhead composed of three Personalites,
the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Where did this doctrine
come from? Is it Biblical? Why is the word "Trinity"
NOT ONCE found in the Scriptures? If God is a "Trinity,"
then which one is really the "Father" of Christ -- the Father?
or the Holy Spirit which begot Him? (Matt.1:18, 20.) Its
high time we take a careful look at this strange but well-
nigh universal doctrine among Catholics and Protestants!
Your own salvation could very well be at stake!!!

William F. Dankenbring
Mark 7:1-16.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark 7:1-16&version=NKJV

http://www.triumphpro.com/trinity-disproved.htm
Click to expand...
Matthew 3:16-17;
"As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased".
Father, Son, Holy Spirit, the three together are one.
 
I John 5:8
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Help a Mississippi feller see the reality of this three strand cord.

eddif
 
The topic of the Trinity has always been a very actively debated issue and this forum is not for debate. Besides, all participants here are members :shrug

Moved to "Apologetics & Theology"
 
Rick W said:
The topic of the Trinity has always been a very actively debated issue and this forum is not for debate. Besides, all participants here are members :shrug

Moved to "Apologetics & Theology"
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Thank you for the above statement, being mention before.
 
eddif said:
I John 5:8
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. Help a Mississippi feller see the reality of this three strand cord.
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A "Mississippi feller" can probably grasp this sooner than many others.

But it is best to keep 1 John 5:7 & 8 together, since the first verse points to three heavenly Witnesses, and the second verse points to three witnesses on earth. In fact, it is best to keep the whole context together, and in verse 7 we have the Trinity, which is not only "biblical" but foundational to Christianity, because this is "the witness of GOD":
6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Verse 7 has been removed from all the modern Bibles, but it has ample support internally (grammatical considerations) as well as externally (historical testimony). See The Divine Inspiration of the Bible by Louis Gaussen (Kregel, 1971, pp 191-193).
 
Revelation 21:23
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

The New Jerusalem (coming down) has no need of the information hidden in the created earth, but the reality of Father/ Son/ Spirit are now understood.
Greater light - Father
Lesser light - Son
Light - Spirit (glory)

The need of shadows (types) eventually fall away, but without a new birth the physical shadows still speak.
Romans 1:19-20

After the coming of Jesus we can speak of both.

Heaven has the realities, and earth the shadows.
Water carries:
Nutrients in liquid water or frozen sleet and snow
Can be vapor
Other ?

Blood carries:
Nutrients
Oxygen
Solution for illness
Other ?

Air currents carry:
Oxygen
Nitrogen (nutrients)
Other ?

Jesus supplies:
Bread of life
Healing
Sends Holy Spirit
Eternal life
Etc.

Please excuse the book of Job prompted symbolism. I need all the help I can get.

eddif
 
Malachi said:
But it is best to keep 1 John 5:7 & 8 together, since the first verse points to three heavenly Witnesses, and the second verse points to three witnesses on earth. In fact, it is best to keep the whole context together, and in verse 7 we have the Trinity, which is not only "biblical" but foundational to Christianity, because this is "the witness of GOD":
6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Verse 7 has been removed from all the modern Bibles, but it has ample support internally (grammatical considerations) as well as externally (historical testimony). See The Divine Inspiration of the Bible by Louis Gaussen (Kregel, 1971, pp 191-193).
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It is likely a late addition to the text and shouldn't be in there. It is just too obvious a statement in support of the Trinity.
 
WalterandDebbie said:
THE TRINITY DOCTRINE --
Is It Biblical?

The TRINITY doctrine claims that God is a monolithic
"Three-in-One" Godhead composed of three Personalites,
the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Where did this doctrine
come from? Is it Biblical? Why is the word "Trinity"
NOT ONCE found in the Scriptures? If God is a "Trinity,"
then which one is really the "Father" of Christ -- the Father?
or the Holy Spirit which begot Him? (Matt.1:18, 20.) Its
high time we take a careful look at this strange but well-
nigh universal doctrine among Catholics and Protestants!
Your own salvation could very well be at stake!!!

William F. Dankenbring
Mark 7:1-16.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark 7:1-16&version=NKJV

http://www.triumphpro.com/trinity-disproved.htm
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What is the point you are trying to make? You need to explain your posts so that people know what it is you are saying.
 
Isaiah 9:6;

"For to us a child is born, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace".

So in this verse we have;
Everlasting Father = God the Father
Prince of Peace = Jesus
Wonderful Counselor = Holy Spirit
Mighty God = all of them

Jesus is called all of them.
 
You're going to run into what the celestial church has encountered almost since its inception. Debate on the origin of "triniy" or a "triune" God.
My advice, don't go by what people argue from their understanding if they happen to push that God is three fold, which is polytheism and unbiblical.
Go by what God himself tells you in his own words.
Anyone who tells you God is three entities, or powers, or spirits, is promoting a pagan ideology. .

"Yahweh, He is God; there is no other besides Him." Deuteronomy 4:35
"Yahweh, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other." Deuteronomy 4:39

Why is this? Because after you die the debate on forums is irrelevant. You'll have to answer to God for what you held as true and believed. And after he told you how it is in his own inspired words. Letting other peoples words lead you from his truth isn't wise. It's opinion. And opinion can lead to sin. And after all, that's what Jesus was sent to save us from in the first place.
What does God say of himself?
That is all that matters.
God bless.

(Bible) Passages that say there is only one God:


LINK_)The Surprising Origins of the Trinity Doctrine
Few understand how the Trinity doctrine came to be accepted - several centuries after the Bible was completed! Yet its roots go back much farther in history.



"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John:8:32).

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WalterandDebbie said:
THE TRINITY DOCTRINE --
Is It Biblical?

The TRINITY doctrine claims that God is a monolithic
"Three-in-One" Godhead composed of three Personalites,
the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Where did this doctrine
come from? Is it Biblical? Why is the word "Trinity"
NOT ONCE found in the Scriptures? If God is a "Trinity,"
then which one is really the "Father" of Christ -- the Father?
or the Holy Spirit which begot Him? (Matt.1:18, 20.) Its
high time we take a careful look at this strange but well-
nigh universal doctrine among Catholics and Protestants!
Your own salvation could very well be at stake!!!

William F. Dankenbring
Mark 7:1-16.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark 7:1-16&version=NKJV

http://www.triumphpro.com/trinity-disproved.htm
Click to expand...
 
WalterandDebbie said:
THE TRINITY DOCTRINE --
Is It Biblical?

The TRINITY doctrine claims that God is a monolithic
"Three-in-One" Godhead composed of three Personalites,
the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Where did this doctrine
come from? Is it Biblical? Why is the word "Trinity"
NOT ONCE found in the Scriptures? If God is a "Trinity,"
then which one is really the "Father" of Christ -- the Father?
or the Holy Spirit which begot Him? (Matt.1:18, 20.) Its
high time we take a careful look at this strange but well-
nigh universal doctrine among Catholics and Protestants!
Your own salvation could very well be at stake!!!

William F. Dankenbring
Mark 7:1-16.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark 7:1-16&version=NKJV

http://www.triumphpro.com/trinity-disproved.htm
Click to expand...


The modern, three persons are one God(being) isn't Biblical. However I believe the original teaching of the Trinity is Biblical.
 
WalterandDebbie said:
THE TRINITY DOCTRINE --
Is It Biblical?

The TRINITY doctrine claims that God is a monolithic
"Three-in-One" Godhead composed of three Personalites,
the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Where did this doctrine
come from? Is it Biblical? Why is the word "Trinity"
NOT ONCE found in the Scriptures? If God is a "Trinity,"
then which one is really the "Father" of Christ -- the Father?
or the Holy Spirit which begot Him? (Matt.1:18, 20.) Its
high time we take a careful look at this strange but well-
nigh universal doctrine among Catholics and Protestants!
Your own salvation could very well be at stake!!!
Click to expand...

It is not the trinity doctrine that teaches three in one. That is what the Word of God teaches.
Here is what the Word of God teaches and is backed up by Scriptures
Jesus revealed to us that He has a Father.
Jesus is the only begotten of that Father
Jesus Himself taught that He and His Father are ONE, just as we are ONE with THEM
Jesus gave us an example of that ONEness, by telling us that a husband and wife are no longer twain but ONE flesh. Understand that simple principle and you will understand the trinity perfectly.
Jesus said He was ONE with His Father. Jesus said we can be ONE with Him.
if you would just click HERE, you would see a lot of the Scriptures which proves that Jesus is not the Father. No man has ever seen the Father, yet many have seen Jesus. click HERE for Trinity article

^i^
 
tinykitten said:
Anyone who tells you God is three entities, or powers, or spirits, is promoting a pagan ideology.
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What about "three Divine Persons"? Not entities, powers, or spirits but "Divine Persons".

Do you believe that Jesus is GOD? Do you know that He called Himself "I AM" which is the name of Almighty God? Do you know that He is "GOD manifest in the flesh" (1 Tim 3;16 KJV) and therefore He is also Immanuel (GOD with us)? Do you know that the apostle Thomas called him "My Lord, AND MY GOD"? How you you account for the Deity of Christ without the triune Godhead?

And we could produce numerous Scriptures to show that the Holy Spirit is GOD the Holy Spirit, which makes it three Divine Persons with God the Father.
 
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