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The Trinity

Randy said:
What part of Jesus descended from above was in that human body if not His own spirit?
What I know -The Son who was, His spirit, was in that body.
"Father into your hands I commit My spirit"

If Jesus had a human spirit and a human body what part of HIM was God?

One God the Father FROM whom ALL things come and for whom we live.

The Father created, His Deity, all things BY/THROUGH/FOR His Son just as HE spoke to us in these last days by His Son.

The Father poured out HIS Spirit in Jesus's name.

Jesus and the Father are one as HE taught not as you believe. The Father in Him and He in us.

The Deity that dwells IN Christ is the Fathers who as Jesus testifies is the only "true" God and Paul wrote one God the Father.

The Father is Deity in Himself as opposed to Deity dwelling in Him and the only true God.
This is not a possible answer -True God from true God. Its God from true God. Its the Fathers Deity always.

His First begotten -Its the Fathers Deity. Jesus spirit, as His first begotten, is not deity in Himself. Jesus's spirit is not human either.
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form.

Jesus inherited all things from His God and Father. The Father from whom all things come did not receive anything from any other being.

It's the church of the firstborn from the beginning.

From your perspective why the need?
Hebrews 1:6
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Jesus was God (the Son) who became flesh.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:1,14


“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8


If you choose to deny this then that’s on you.
 
JLB said:
Jesus was God (the Son) who became flesh.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:1,14


“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8


If you choose to deny this then that’s on you.
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And the Father is the only "true" God.
The Deity in the Firstborn remains the Fathers.

As you believe True God from true God the Father.
As I believe the begotten God from the true unbegotten God.
The only like to like begotten Son of the Father, His spirit-not deity, with the gifting of all the fullness of the Fathers Deity living in Him. God's firstborn. A child of His Father and God. He is one with the Father as HE taught not as you believe. Since He is one with the Father in regard to the fullness of the one deity of God how could He NOT be all that the Father is? God was the Logos.

God was indeed the Logos and the Logos was with the Father in the beginning.

I agree in part.
Begotten of the Father alone before all things but not made.

We will have to agree to disagree.
I hold to the testimony. I prefer truth as given from above.
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

I believe this about the Son.
The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

As I have stated.
Is Jesus God?
He never dies
Yes, He is all that the Father is.
No, He has always been the Son.

Peace
 
Randy said:
And the Father is the only "true" God.
The Deity in the Firstborn remains the Fathers.

As you believe True God from true God the Father.
As I believe the begotten God from the true unbegotten God.
The only like to like begotten Son of the Father, His spirit-not deity, with the gifting of all the fullness of the Fathers Deity living in Him. God's firstborn. A child of His Father and God. He is one with the Father as HE taught not as you believe. Since He is one with the Father in regard to the fullness of the one deity of God how could He NOT be all that the Father is? God was the Logos.

God was indeed the Logos and the Logos was with the Father in the beginning.

I agree in part.
Begotten of the Father alone before all things but not made.

We will have to agree to disagree.
I hold to the testimony. I prefer truth as given from above.
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

I believe this about the Son.
The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

As I have stated.
Is Jesus God?
He never dies
Yes, He is all that the Father is.
No, He has always been the Son.

Peace
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Jesus was God (the Son) who became flesh.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:1,14


“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8

The scriptures teach us Jesus is God. You either believe that or not.

Jesus says He is Almighty God.

Do you believe Jesus is Almighty God?
 
JLB said:
Jesus was God (the Son) who became flesh.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:1,14


“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Revelation 1:8

The scriptures teach us Jesus is God. You either believe that or not.

Jesus says He is Almighty God.

Do you believe Jesus is Almighty God?
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This is true
God was the Logos
This is true
The person of the Father is the only "true" God

I have given you the understanding I received from above how both those statements are true but you can't accept it. Those fine as I have no need to convince you.

Jesus is the first begotten of the Father, His spirit. "In" Him was pleased to dwell all the fullness of the Deity of the only true God the Father. In that unity He is the radiance of the Fathers glory and the imprint of the Fathers very being and one with the Father as He taught not as you believe.

One God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ-the Fathers Son from the beginning and the Fathers Christ who has received the Sovereign authority of God the Father forever. The throne of God and of the lamb. Jesus inherited all things from His God and Father He is not coeternal, but He is all that the Father is.

We will agree to disagree

Peace
 
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