Which is right, the original Judeo-Christian authors or philosophical thought Centuries after the original writings were lost?

[Hopeful 2]

You have every right to disagree, but our right to disagree doesn't change Truth. My nephew says "God is fake" that doesn't make it true, Truth is Truth no matter what!

WHO put on flesh ?
The Word, who was with God and was God put on flesh.
If the Word was merely that which had been spoken, it would not be "God".

 

[My Rock]

WHO put on flesh ?
The Word, who was with God and was God put on flesh.
If the Word was merely that which had been spoken, it would not be "God".

In John 1:1, the Word (Logos) is presented as both “with God” and “was God,” emphasizing God’s self-expression and His divine will and purpose. From a Oneness perspective, the Word is not a distinct person but the very mind, plan, and self-expression of God Himself. This Word was not a “who” until it was embodied, or put on flesh, as John 1:14 describes: “And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.” Luke 1:35, "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing (The Word - Self Expressive and Eternal) which shall be (Not always was) born (This is when The Word became a "Who") of thee shall be called the Son of God."

When we look at this term, “Word,” it’s essential to consider it as the articulation of God’s own being, inseparable from Him. This Word is God’s own power and wisdom expressed, coming forth directly from Him. It’s the same concept we see in Genesis 1:3, where God speaks creation into existence. That Word is His command and will in action—not a separate individual, but God Himself in the act of creating.

When John says the Word “was God,” it means that this Word has always been intrinsic to God, like one’s mind or thoughts. In the incarnation, this Word became flesh as Jesus Christ, the “only begotten of the Father” (John 1:14). Here, the Word took on personal identity and became a “who” as Jesus. But before the incarnation, there was no separate “who” apart from God Himself.

This understanding aligns with how the Bible consistently presents God as singular and indivisible. When the Word “became flesh,” it was God’s own self-manifestation as a human being—not a distinct person but the one God making Himself known in a way humanity could see, touch, and follow. Thus, Jesus is fully God manifest in flesh (Colossians 2:9), revealing God’s love and plan directly to humanity.

 

[Hopeful 2]

In John 1:1, the Word (Logos) is presented as both “with God” and “was God,” emphasizing God’s self-expression and His divine will and purpose. From a Oneness perspective, the Word is not a distinct person

I do not agree.
The Word was both with God and at the same time, was God.

but the very mind, plan, and self-expression of God Himself. This Word was not a “who” until it was embodied, or put on flesh, as John 1:14 describes: “And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.” Luke 1:35, "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing (The Word - Self Expressive and Eternal) which shall be (Not always was) born (This is when The Word became a "Who") of thee shall be called the Son of God."

When we look at this term, “Word,” it’s essential to consider it as the articulation of God’s own being, inseparable from Him. This Word is God’s own power and wisdom expressed, coming forth directly from Him. It’s the same concept we see in Genesis 1:3, where God speaks creation into existence. That Word is His command and will in action—not a separate individual, but God Himself in the act of creating.

When John says the Word “was God,” it means that this Word has always been intrinsic to God, like one’s mind or thoughts. In the incarnation, this Word became flesh as Jesus Christ, the “only begotten of the Father” (John 1:14). Here, the Word took on personal identity and became a “who” as Jesus. But before the incarnation, there was no separate “who” apart from God Himself.

This understanding aligns with how the Bible consistently presents God as singular and indivisible. When the Word “became flesh,” it was God’s own self-manifestation as a human being—not a distinct person but the one God making Himself known in a way humanity could see, touch, and follow. Thus, Jesus is fully God manifest in flesh (Colossians 2:9), revealing God’s love and plan directly to humanity.

 

[My Rock]

I do not agree.
The Word was both with God and at the same time, was God.

That is exactly what I said when quoting John 1:1, why do you disagree? What else do you think John 1:1 says? Well it was God's Word, which was within Him and belonged to Him. It wasn't someone else's Word was it?

 

[Hopeful 2]

That is exactly what I said when quoting John 1:1, why do you disagree? What else do you think John 1:1 says? Well it was God's Word, which was within Him and belonged to Him. It wasn't someone else's Word was it?

You are still missing what I am saying.
The Word, for lack of any other way to describe Him, was a being.
He was with God and was God.
God and the Word were the "our" of..."And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:..."
The Word was not that which was spoken by God.