The White Horse Rider !

[Cornelius]

OK, I am well aware that there are two opposite views of who he is. People fight to be right :gah but need not do so, because the Bible is not clear about it. We only really have types and shadows to look at , if we are trying to figure out who he is.

I personally believe he is the man child, or "first fruits" mentioned in Rev 12 and John 16.

 

[Vic C.]

Osgiliath beat you to it.

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[Osgiliath]

Sorry. Didn't think anyone was going to do it, so I did :D. Maybe you can delete this double with your super evil moderating powers so we don't get all mixed up.

 

[Vic C.]

Super, yes. Evil? Nothing evil about it. :amen

 

[Cornelius]

What does the “white horse†represent?

As the mind of man uses his body as a beast of burden to do his work, so the horse is harnessed as
a beast of burden to do his work. The horse represents the body or beast.(Ps.147:10) He delighteth not in the strength of the horse: He taketh no pleasure in the legs of a man. This verse could well fit the other horse riders in revelation six, but to ride a white horse symbolizes completely harnessing the strength of your body and mind to do righteous work. The horse carries the rider like the “legs of a man†carry the Man-child. Overcomers ride white horses because their body submits to the
spiritual man who submits to the Holy Spirit.

 

[Cornelius]

Never mind I will just copy/paste to the other thread !

 

[Benoni]

The beast is mans carnal nature. A horse is symbolic of power in might; in Bible days warriors rode horses. White is the color of purity.

 

[Cornelius]

That is in agreement with my post

We have moved this discussion over to the Seals thread in the Bible Prophecy section.

 

[Osgiliath]

Originally posted by Benoni
The beast is mans carnal nature. A horse is symbolic of power in might; in Bible days warriors rode horses. White is the color of purity.

That's a catchy analysis Benoni (almost as "cute" as "Baby Steps" :D), but there is a bit more to Revelation than the psychology man's inner war (though that is part of it). Paul addressed the subject of living in the Spirit exhaustively, yet he was very specific when separating the struggles of the inner man with the events surrounding the Advent of Christ (1 Thessalonians 4; 1 Corinthians 15; 2 Thessalonians 2; etc.).

Ayyyy Benny Benoni ayyy.... (I'm from New York, so I'm saying your name like someone from da Bronx :D). This thread is being transferred over to the Seven Seals thread. So let’s continue over there.

 

[NIGHTMARE]

The rider of the white horse is satan/antichrist<<<<

So lets not play games and forbid whomever tells others that there is danger from this rider,,,this is the most dangerous dude that as ever lived so lets see what really going on.....

Rev. 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Yes,,,,, at first clance this looks like Christ,,, but what did Christ say?????

Matt. 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

SO I think we better check this dude out,,,,,The word "bow" in the Greek is (toxon)--and means an archer's bow,,,, "bow" - 5115 toxon (tox'-on); from the base of 5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric): KJV-- bow.....This means imitation,,,,this dudes a fake but lets keep looking.....

Well if someones holding a bow,,,,thats not what you need to be worried about,,,its the arrows that come forth,,,,The word bow comes from "toxin" which means poision.....Also the Greek word for poision of a arrow is "toxikon".....So we see this rider has poision arrows,,,,,not sounding like Christ.....Hey poision,, that reminds me

(Revelation 8:11
And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

wormood is a poision.....

Also while I was writting this I found out that in the Hebrew bow is "qesheth" and has a root meaning,,,that means trap or can mean a snare,,,,,I wonder how many christians are going to get suckered in by this dude with no real authority claiming to be Christ......Probably the ones who tell you this aint satan........

 

[Benoni]

Again the Old Testament establishes the fact that events have often been represented by different colored horses. This is seen in Zechariah 1:8-11, and 6:2-7, where four colored horses are said to be "The four spirits (or, winds) of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth." Sent by God to accomplish their specific purpose. So it is not strange that we see the symbol used again in the opening of the seals.

The horse has long been a symbol of strength and fearlessness. "He paws in the valley, and rejoices in his strength: he goes on to meet the armed men. He mocks at fear, and is not afraid; neither turns he back from the sword." (Job 39:21-22).

Again we read, "The horse is prepared against the day of battle." (Proverbs 21:31).

Revelation is the most Spiritual Book in the Bible and if you want to know its meaning look to God's Word not what you asssume it means.

 

[Benoni]

I have compared you, O my love, to a company of horses in Pharaoh's chariots." (Song of Solomon 1:9).

History records that every one of Pharaoh's horses was a thoroughbred. There were no mixed stock, they were pure. No intermingling of other natures, characteristics, weaknesses-- pure bred stock. And such is the qualification of those who will follow Him on white horses. Pure as He is pure, holy as He is holy, with no mixture of self or the world in them-- born again, spirit, soul, and body.

"Behold a white horse: and He that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto Him: and He went forth conquering, and to conquer."

The color "white" bespeaks of light, illumination, purity, holiness. The color reveals what He is doing TO you, or producing IN you. As important as the color is, do not let it distract you from remembering Who it is that is riding this horse, and the purpose of His riding, for He is riding it with a view toward REDEMPTION. The scroll is a scroll of redemption, and that which is now unsealed is furthering that work in you.

 

[Benoni]

I agree. Also the overcomer... BUT there are two types of people in the Book of Revelation. Those who overcome and thouse who do not.

OK, I am well aware that there are two opposite views of who he is. People fight to be right :gah but need not do so, because the Bible is not clear about it. We only really have types and shadows to look at , if we are trying to figure out who he is.

I personally believe he is the man child, or "first fruits" mentioned in Rev 12 and John 16.

 

[Benoni]

Notice there is a distinction between the great multitudes BEFORE the throne (Rev. 7:9) in comparison to the overcomer who Christ will grant to sit with me on my throne (Rev. 3:21) .

Rev. 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Rev. 3: 21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

"I saw the heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. - And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean." (Revelation 19:11, 14).

It is essential that first He RIDES IN YOU, before you ride WITH Him. The time will come when the overcomer shares His throne-- and the time comes when a vast company follows Him upon white horses, but that is when He has finished His in workings of grace, and they have become partakers of His divine nature, conformed to His image, to be ONE IN HIM. Christ must RIDE TO VICTORY IN US before we ever ride in His triumphal train.

 

[Vic C.]

Also while I was writting this I found out that in the Hebrew bow is "qesheth" and has a root meaning,,,that means trap or can mean a snare,,,,,I wonder how many christians are going to get suckered in by this dude with no real authority claiming to be Christ......Probably the ones who tell you this aint satan........

Ok, calm down. The same word, qesheth, is used in Genesis 9:13, 14 and 16. :yes

 

[NIGHTMARE]

Also while I was writting this I found out that in the Hebrew bow is "qesheth" and has a root meaning,,,that means trap or can mean a snare,,,,,I wonder how many christians are going to get suckered in by this dude with no real authority claiming to be Christ......Probably the ones who tell you this aint satan........

Ok, calm down. The same word, qesheth, is used in Genesis 9:13, 14 and 16. :yes

For someone that really studys Gods word this is not a delima....

The rider is coming to conquer,,,,now if this is not christ then there is a problem,,,,,,unless you dont mind someone coming to coquer you....But see pal I mind being coquered by anyone,,,,unless its Christ.......and this aint Christ.....and I left more proving that this is not Christ then "gesheth" ..

Funny how when people want to prove you wrong and cant how they just throw out there they really doesnt have anything edifying in it.......All one needs to do is compare the two riders we got one whos freakin awesome and another who just looks like he wants to be awesome,,,,,well since you see this rider with the bow as no threat then by all means let him conquer you ,,,he wont be conquering me....... :naughty

 

[Benoni]

Amen. Satan or the anti christ has no power unless you want to give it to them as many seem so prone.

Satan is nothing but a tool in God's hand. The anti Christ just means anti anointing.

Far too much power is given to God's enemys; God is God over all things including Satan and the anti christ. If you read so many of these post Revelation is a negative doom and gloom book; it is not it is a Positive Book

Also while I was writting this I found out that in the Hebrew bow is "qesheth" and has a root meaning,,,that means trap or can mean a snare,,,,,I wonder how many christians are going to get suckered in by this dude with no real authority claiming to be Christ......Probably the ones who tell you this aint satan........

Ok, calm down. The same word, qesheth, is used in Genesis 9:13, 14 and 16. :yes

For someone that really studys Gods word this is not a delima....

The rider is coming to conquer,,,,now if this is not christ then there is a problem,,,,,,unless you dont mind someone coming to coquer you....But see pal I mind being coquered by anyone,,,,unless its Christ.......and this aint Christ.....and I left more proving that this is not Christ then "gesheth" ..

Funny how when people want to prove you wrong and cant how they just throw out there they really doesnt have anything edifying in it.......All one needs to do is compare the two riders we got one whos freakin awesome and another who just looks like he wants to be awesome,,,,,well since you see this rider with the bow as no threat then by all means let him conquer you ,,,he wont be conquering me....... :naughty

 

[Benoni]

It is the REVELATION, the UNVEILING of Jesus Christ. It is the REVELATION and UNVEILING of the sons of God. The last book of the Bible is called, significantly, the REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST. It is interesting to note that when we come to the sixth verse of the first chapter it speaks of how HE "hath made US kings and priests unto God."

This is not a book about the power of Satan black horse or any horse, or the doom and gloom of religious teachings, this is a book about the unveiling of Jesus Lord of lord king of Kings.

As the revelation progresses with THE CHRIST always as the central figure, we next find Him standing IN THE MIDST OF THE SEVEN GOLDEN CANDLESTICKS with a special message and call to the OVERCOMERS out of these various churches.

Thus, in the unveiling of Jesus Christ, we also come to the UNVEILING OF THE OVERCOMERS - those who eat WITH HIM of the tree of life, live WITH HIM free from corruption and death, share WITH HIM a new name, rule WITH HIM over the nations, walk WITH HIM in resplendent white, dwell WITH HIM in the city and temple of God, and sit WITH HIM upon the Father's throne from whence He rules over all the vastnesses of infinity for evermore! And so, through the book, again and again, we see this many-spliendored unveiling - THE SON and the sons, THE LAMB and those with Him on Mount Zion,

THE WORD and they that are with Him who are called, and chosen and faithful. Time would fail to speak of the two witnesses, the woman clothed with the sun, the manchild caught up to the throne, the bride of the Lamb, etc.; but all are facets of this unfolding revelation of THE CHRIST and His anointed ones, His many brethren, prepared as salvation unto all the ends of the earth.

 

[Benoni]

In His great victory over the power of Satan He was a sign that pointed unerringly to another company of overcoming sons. In all the churches of Revelation there were two classes of people  those who were overcomers and those who were not. It is to the overcomers that the glorious promises are given, for they follow the Lamb whithersoever He goeth, have partaken of His mind and of His will, and thus are equipped to reign in His kingdom.

Thus to them it is said: "To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life which is in the midst of the paradise of God." Rev. 2:7. "

He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." Rev. 2:11.

"To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it." Rev. 2:17. "

He that overcometh and keepeth My works to the end, to him will I give/wnw over the nations, and he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessel of the potter shall they be broken to shivers even as I received of My Father, and I will give him the morning star." Rev. 2:26-28.

"He that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God and he shall go no more out and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God which cometh down out of heaven from my God and I will write upon him my new name." Rev. 3:12, 13.

"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with Me in My throne even as I overcame and am set down with My Father in His throne." Rev. 3:21.

"He that hath an ear let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

 

[whirlwind]

What does the “white horse†represent?

As the mind of man uses his body as a beast of burden to do his work, so the horse is harnessed as
a beast of burden to do his work. The horse represents the body or beast.(Ps.147:10) He delighteth not in the strength of the horse: He taketh no pleasure in the legs of a man. This verse could well fit the other horse riders in revelation six, but to ride a white horse symbolizes completely harnessing the strength of your body and mind to do righteous work. The horse carries the rider like the “legs of a man†carry the Man-child. Overcomers ride white horses because their body submits to the
spiritual man who submits to the Holy Spirit.

What about this for a type of the rider and white horse?

• * Exodus 15:1 Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the LORD, and spake, saying, "I will sing unto the LORD, for He that triumphed gloriously: The horse and his rider hath He thrown into the sea.

Therein we have Moses, a type of the man child, the children of Israel and "the horse and his rider" being thrown in the sea! A perfect end time scenario for when God triumphs.

Pharoah is a type for Satan. Could he be a type for...the rider on the white horse?