The White Horse Rider !

[Vic C.]

I don't how we got from the first seal to all this but,

After this first three and half years, they get killed by the Beast. Then after another three and half years , they come to life at the last trumpet, together with the rest of those who are part of the first resurrection.
Rev 11:11 And after the three days and a half (Second half, because they were preachingfor the first half)) the breath of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet;( first resurrection of the dead) and great fear fell upon them that beheld them.

Seven years, with two halves.The last half,will be the worst for Christians.

C, I've never read this interpretation before. It doesn't make sense. They (two witnesses)were here for a thousand two hundred and threescore days (about 3 1/2 years) and an additional 3 1/2 days dead on the street. Their dead bodies did not lay in the street for 3 1/2 years.

A thousand two hundred and threescore days, plus 3 1/2 additional days, that's it. If I did believe in a future 7 year period, the witnesses would be here for the second half of the period.

 

[Cornelius]

Vic, there is only ONE first resurrection of the dead. In order for the two witnesses to come back to life, they must be part of that resurrection. There is really no other one that the Bible speaks of. Three and a half days here , is simply three and a half years. We can see this, because Revelation is constantly speaking of this timing.

They are killed after the first three and a half years, then they are resurrected after the second three and a half and that fits Scripture perfectly.

 

[Cornelius]

A thousand two hundred and threescore days, plus 3 1/2 additional days, that's it. If I did believe in a future 7 year period, the witnesses would be here for the second half of the period.

Rev 11:3 And I will give unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
(first half)

then they get killed.

Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that cometh up out of the abyss shall make war with them, and overcome them, and kill them.

then they are in the "street" for three and a half days (three and a half years)

Rev 11:11 And after the three days and a half the breath of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them that beheld them.
(First resurrection )

There is no mention of them as doing anything again, because they do not feature in the Tribulation again as anything.They are resurrected to be part of those who come with Christ at the end.

 

[Sinthesis]

Vic, there is only ONE first resurrection of the dead. In order for the two witnesses to come back to life, they must be part of that resurrection. There is really no other one that the Bible speaks of. Three and a half days here , is simply three and a half years. We can see this, because Revelation is constantly speaking of this timing.

They are killed after the first three and a half years, then they are resurrected after the second three and a half and that fits Scripture perfectly.

If you believe the “two witnesses†are groups of believers sent out by the Man-child ministry, then it is not necessary to believe they are brought back to life by the first resurrection. What is important here is the message of the two witnesses. The individuals spreading the message can be killed off (to be with the Lord) until it seams to the world that the message was false. Yet after three and a half days (or years) the message is revived among new converts and continues to torment the unbelievers.

 

[Vic C.]

I'm trying NOT to speculate here and just want to read it for what it says first.

Vic, there is only ONE first resurrection of the dead. In order for the two witnesses to come back to life, they must be part of that resurrection. There is really no other one that the Bible speaks of. Three and a half days here , is simply three and a half years. We can see this, because Revelation is constantly speaking of this timing.

First off, this is just not true. There are at least two general resurrections spoken of in Scripture. Anyway...

There is no mention of a "first resurrection" here, so this is not one of those two general resurrections. When the Bible speaks of a first resurrection, it says so in no uncertain terms ((Rev 20:5 and Rev 20:6 for instance).


Why are we using the days=equals years formula for Rev 11:11 and not for Rev 11:3 as the Historicist would do. They are being consistent at least.

What about the people rejoicing over their dead bodies?

Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

I suppose they are also doing this for the 3 1/2 year duration? 3 1/2 years of dancing around dead bodies, while for a good portion of that period, God is pouring out His Wrath. You'd think there would be little time for dancing, heh? :D

 

[Cornelius]

I really cannot help you I guess you see what you see or not.

 

[Cornelius]

First off, this is just not true. There are at least two general resurrections spoken of in Scripture.

That is why I said "first" resurrection.

 

[Vic C.]

First off, this is just not true. There are at least two general resurrections spoken of in Scripture.

That is why I said "first" resurrection.

Duh, I just caught that. Of course, that makes sense at least. If there were another "first" it wouldn't be called "first", it would be called the second. :D

 

[Cornelius]

lol