Yes, of course.
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There are HUNDREDS of churches believing different; CLAIMING the Bible is their source!
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Dorothy Mae
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Ok, how?
God will choose if he will lead you to Christ.
Dorothy Mae
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He doesn't work like that. “Whosoever will” is how He works? The poster needs to will.
Mungo
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But where do these others get their doctrine from?
How reliable are they?
Dorothy Mae
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The answers are fairly variable, but in general we get them, not from the Bible, but from other people. In some theologies, one can trace the history back to one man. Sometimes why he deviated from scripture can be seen. There are presentations of theological thought that have a whole history to follow.
If it was the Holy Spirit, then there are the fruits of that in the character of the man. We see, for example, Luther being a humble man seeking no political power, nor authority for himself. The opposite was true of Calvin.
Mungo
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So how do you know what the truth is?
Dorothy Mae
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Well, of course that’s a HUGE subject. And theres more than one question there. There’s:
1. How can I recognize the truth in a matter?
2. How can I know who is telling the truth (not meaning lying per se but uninformed?
3. What is my part in being able to know the truth?
Dorothy Mae
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Dorothy Mae
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For someone who designates themselves as being “the serious one,” you sure jeer a lot.
John 6:44- No one can come to me unless the Father who has sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.
Mungo
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So you can never know what the truth is?
Dorothy Mae
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I would ask you to be specific but I’m accused of being evasive. So I’ll tell you how I first came to believe there’s a God and how that’s become solid.
I was a child and I asked God to show me that He’s there if He is, I remember this like it was yesterday. I know I was prepared to alter my view if there turned out to be one. He did but over the course of many months. I’ve never seriously doubted this since despite telling Him I didn't want to walk with Him anymore for a time. I still knew He was there. He had convinced me. On this I know I think the truth.
Dorothy Mae
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He draws everyone for it's his will that “ALL repent and come to a knowledge of the truth” so there is no choosing some and not others. You can put it in bold and colored. Doesn’t change anything.
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Dorothy Mae
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We can know the truth and know we know it. Jesus promised we can know the truth. But its very expensive and not all want to pay the price.
Sure , error can happen .
Yes he did . And Jesus also quoted the from the Hebrew Bible or a translation there of .
Of course the apostles taught from the foundation Jesus had taught them using the Hebrew Bible or a translation there of .
The Apostles and Jesus certainly quoted from the Bible available to them at the time as we can see at this link .
https://bible.ca/b-canon-old-testament-quoted-by-jesus-and-apostles.htm
A small sample from link .
List of Old Testament texts quoted in the New Testament:
| Gen 1:27 | Matt 19:4 |
| Gen 5:2 | Mark 10:6 |
| Gen 2:2 | Heb 4:4 |
| Gen 2:7 | 1 Cor 15:45 |
| Gen 2:24 | Matt 19:5, Mark 10:7-8,1 Cor 6:17, Eph 5:31 |
| Gen 5:24 | Heb 11:5 |
| Gen 12:1 | Acts 7:3 |
| Gen 12:3 | Gal 3:8 |
| Gen 12:7 | Acts 7:5 |
| Gen 13:15 | Gal 3:16 |
| Gen 14:17-20 | Heb 7:1-2 |
| Gen 15:5 | Rom 4:18 |
| Gen 15:6 | Rom 4:3,9,22, Gal 3:6, Jas 2:23 |
| Gen 15:13-14 | Acts 7:6-7 |
| Gen 17:5 | Rom 4:17 |
| Gen 17:7 | Gal 3:16 |
| Gen 17:8 | Acts 7:5 |
| Gen 18:10 | Rom 9:9 |
| Gen 18:14 | Rom 9:9 |
| Gen 21:10 | Gal 4:30 |
| Gen 21:22 | Rom 9:7, Heb 11:18 |
| Gen 22:16-17 | Heb 6:13-14 |
| Gen 22:18 | Acts 3:15 |
| Gen 25:23 | Rom 9:12 |
| Gen 25:23 | Rom 9:12 |
| Gen 38:8 | Luke 20:28 |
| Gen 47:31 | Heb 11:21 |
The Bottom Line is that if you question your church and take a closer look at the scriptures, you might just discover some GLARING discrepancies.....
You're right.
Even the OT scriptures required a teaching authority. Evil men were seated on that chair plotting to murder Our Lord. Jesus taught His disciples to obey them nevertheless.
The authority to interpret scripture was necessary to preserve it's usefulness untill Our Savior arrived.
Scriptures without a teaching authority cannot do what it's intended to do.
Now it must have a teaching authority just as before for the same reason. Otherwise it fragments the faith rather than support it.
Bible alone can't pass down the faith from generation to generation.
What denomination has the Truth, then?