Bible Study Thousand Year Reign

[t4r4ntul4]

So, to the Lord a thousand years is as a day and a day is like a thousand years when interpreting Bible prophesy. So does that mean that the thousand year reign of Christ could be interpreted as one day?

 

[Eugene]

Hi and I won't attempt to pronounce that user name, but to me the thousand years refer to the Lord's Day, or the Day of the Lord. Many places in scripture we also read "In that day"; also a reference to that time.

Welcome to CF.net in Jesus' name.

 

[t4r4ntul4]

Thanks!

So, you think it might actually be a day? That seems like a pretty short period of time...

 

[t4r4ntul4]

1000 years contains 1000 x 365 = 365000 days. Multiply that by 1000 would be 365,000,000 years.

But we know it can't be that, because, as you say, it is referred to as the "Day of the Lord", which means it can't be 365000 days, it has to be one of the Lord's days only. Which would be a thousand years, tops. (Which would actually be 365000 days, but it is irrelevant in terms of prophesy.)

So, when the Bible talks about the thousand year reign, it must be literal in this case.

Hopefully soon! ;)

 

[Eugene]

Thanks!

So, you think it might actually be a day? That seems like a pretty short period of time...

Not quite. I believe it begins with the Lord taking His own throne in heaven (Revelation 4:2), and lasts for a thousand years which has become known as the millennium, but it begins with tribulation as usurping nations are put down. I hope I've said that right.

 

[t4r4ntul4]

Can't wait!

 

[JCitoL]

So, to the Lord a thousand years is as a day and a day is like a thousand years when interpreting Bible prophesy. So does that mean that the thousand year reign of Christ could be interpreted as one day?

the meaning of 2 Peter 3:8 is that the true God can stretch one day to thousands of years so that to make clear all occurred things during that time, and He can see everything which happened for thousands of years at a glance as if there was just a day - because He is omnipotent and omniscient, but the reign of Christ in this world will really last thousands of years, because God wants to show the paradisiac side of this world, for He made it in order to be a paradise, not a hell

Blessings

 

[Sinthesis]

The millennium is for all intents and purposes to a christian an eternal reign. If Christ is your King now, then when in the future would He ever cease to be? Your promised eternal life could only end if you were to rebel against Him and follow after some other ruler.

 

[Eugene]

So, to the Lord a thousand years is as a day and a day is like a thousand years when interpreting Bible prophesy. So does that mean that the thousand year reign of Christ could be interpreted as one day?

the meaning of 2 Peter 3:8 is that the true God can stretch one day to thousands of years so that to make clear all occurred things during that time, and He can see everything which happened for thousands of years at a glance as if there was just a day - because He is omnipotent and omniscient, but the reign of Christ in this world will really last thousands of years, because God wants to show the paradisiac side of this world, for He made it in order to be a paradise, not a hell

Blessings

Near an unending thousand year reign of Jesus?

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him (Jesus), then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (Our Father) that put all things under him , that God may be all in all.

And there are other references to a literal thousand years of Christ's reign.

Revelation 20:3 . . . till the thousand years should be fulfilled:
Revelation 20:4 . . . they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Revelation 20:5 . . . until the thousand years were finished.
Revelation 20:6 . . . and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, . . .

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

So, to the Lord a thousand years is as a day and a day is like a thousand years when interpreting Bible prophesy. So does that mean that the thousand year reign of Christ could be interpreted as one day?

What reign is the OP referring to? Nowhere in scripture that I am aware of mentions a 1000 year reign of Jesus, the Christ. The only place 1000 years is even link with a reign is in Rev. 20 and that only mentions martyred saints reigning WITH Jesus. It says NOTHING of the duration or onset of Jesus' reign.

Eugene

...... to me the thousand years refer to the Lord's Day, or the Day of the Lord. Many places in scripture we also read "In that day"; also a reference to that time.

The subject of 'The Lord's Day' in scripture is an interesting one that has been debated by believers for centuries. Most references in scripture seem to refer to times of God releasing His anger/vengence/judgment and is quite frightening and apocalyptic. John in writing the Revelation refered to being "in the spirit on the Lord's Day" and described many things that were quite dreadful. I always wondered why so many churches and beleivers to look at the Lord's Day as either the 7th day sabbath or the 1st day of the week.

 

[Eugene]

I always wondered why so many churches and beleivers to look at the Lord's Day as either the 7th day sabbath or the 1st day of the week.

Me too. Presently even though Christ has been given all power and authority (Matthew 28:16-18), He has yet to take it and is seated in His Father's throne (Revelation 3:21) as our advocate (1 John 2:1). . . But now we see not yet all things put under him (Hebrews 2:8). What then is Jesus doing? Revelation 2:1 says John saw Him walking among the candlesticks (Churches). In Revelation 4:2 things come to a head quickly when Jesus receives His own throne, and the things John is told will be hereafter from that time in Revelation 4:1.

 

[cgl1023]

So, to the Lord a thousand years is as a day and a day is like a thousand years when interpreting Bible prophesy. So does that mean that the thousand year reign of Christ could be interpreted as one day?

You couldn't rule out an interpretation like yours but it really needs a context.

 

[JCitoL]

Near an unending thousand year reign of Jesus? 1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him (Jesus), then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (Our Father) that put all things under him , that God may be all in all. And there are other references to a literal thousand years of Christ's reign. Revelation 20:3 . . . till the thousand years should be fulfilled: Revelation 20:4 . . . they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Revelation 20:5 . . . until the thousand years were finished. Revelation 20:6 . . . and shall reign with him a thousand years. Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, . . .

the truth is that there will be thousands of years paradise in this world, but God only knows how many thousands of years exactly - it may somehow be even till the end of the eternity

Blessings

 

[Eugene]

till the end of the eternity

Perfect example of an oxymoron. Sorry.

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

The thousand year reign sounds like the stuff of fairy tale and fantasy. There are hardly ANY details listed about it ANYWHERE in scripture. Again Revelation 20 is the only place that but vaguely references the 1000 years. The Bible never ties the 1000 year period when the martyred saints are said to reign with Jesus to a period of tribulation, nor does it say where the location will be. Will these saint be reigning from the Earth, the Heavenly Realm, or somewhere else, or is are the language symbolic; the Bible does not say.

The fact that books, movies, and doctrines have been contructed around something so vague reaks of hubris, dishonesty, and ignorance. At best such doctrines make an assumption based on very little info.

 

[Eugene]

The thousand year reign sounds like the stuff of fairy tale and fantasy. There are hardly ANY details listed about it ANYWHERE in scripture. Again Revelation 20 is the only place that but vaguely references the 1000 years. The Bible never ties the 1000 year period when the martyred saints are said to reign with Jesus to a period of tribulation, nor does it say where the location will be. Will these saint be reigning from the Earth, the Heavenly Realm, or somewhere else, or is are the language symbolic; the Bible does not say.

The fact that books, movies, and doctrines have been contructed around something so vague reaks of hubris, dishonesty, and ignorance. At best such doctrines make an assumption based on very little info.

Revelation Chapter Twenty does give us the duration of Jesus' reign, and Revelation 5:8-10 tells us of them that will reign with Him over the earth in heaven when He first takes His own throne, and Jesus' throne will be in heaven. Revelation 4:2 ". . a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on (Or over) the earth.

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

Revelation Chapter Twenty does give us the duration of Jesus' reign,

Where does Rev. 20 give the duration of Jesus' reign? It reads:

Then I saw a messenger come down from sky with a long chain in his hand [that held] the key to the abyss; 2 and he grabbed the dragon – the original snake… the Slanderer and Opposer – and chained him up for a thousand years (or thousands of years). 3 Then he threw him into the abyss… closing it and locking it up over him, so he couldn't mislead the nations anymore until the end of the thousand years. But after that, he has to be set free for a little while.
4 And I saw thrones… and those who sat down on them were the ones who had been executed with axes for testifying about Jesus and for telling about God, and who hadn't worshiped the wild animal or its image, nor had they received the mark on their foreheads and on their hands. Then they were appointed judges, and they came to life and ruled as kings with the Anointed One for a thousand years. 5 … This is the first resurrection. 6 Those who have a part in the first resurrection are blest and holy, because the second death doesn't have any power over them. For, they will be Priests of The God and the Anointed One, and they will rule along with him for the thousands of years.

The verses say NOTHING of the duration of Jesus' reign, only that the resurrected martyrs would rule WITH HIM for the thousand (or thousands of) years. Assuming that Jesus' ONLY has a 1000 year reign that is yet to begin and that that reign is on the Earth when he was quoted as saying that his kningdom was not of this world and Luke wrote in Acts 2 that Jesus was already on the throne is a bit presumptous.

and Revelation 5:8-10 tells us of them that will reign with Him over the earth in heaven when He first takes His own throne, and Jesus' throne will be in heaven. Revelation 4:2 ". . a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

The throne in Rev 4-5 was NOT Jesus' throne! The Father was seated on the throne and the lamb, Jesus, is said to have approached it to take the scroll from the Father's hand.
You also said that Rev 5:10 tells the reader that "them that will reign with Him over the earth in heaven when He first takes His own throne"..... In Heaven? Wait a minutes, let's read verse 10, it says:

You made them rulers and Priests to our God,
And they'll rule as kings on the earth.'

"When he first takes his throne......"? The verses you quoted say NOTHING about when Jesus first took or takes his throne. To imply these things adds to the text and according to the writer of the text in Rev 21:18, adding to the text is a no no.

 

[Eugene]

The throne in Rev 4-5 was NOT Jesus' throne!

Well I'll just add Who it is we're talking of sitting on that throne of Revelation 4:2, and if this isn't of help I'll withdraw. Thanks.

Revelation 4:8 . . Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

Revelation 4:11 Thou . . thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Are we not talking of Jesus here?

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, . . . all things were created by him, and for him:

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

The throne in Rev 4-5 was NOT Jesus' throne!

Well I'll just add Who it is we're talking of sitting on that throne of Revelation 4:2, and if this isn't of help I'll withdraw. Thanks.

Revelation 4:8 . . Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

Revelation 4:11 Thou . . thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Are we not talking of Jesus here?

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, . . . all things were created by him, and for him:

So it was not the Father on the throne, but rather the Son? That seems to be what your assertions suggest. Rev 4 and 5 CLEARLY place The Father of the Lord Jesus on the throne and Jesus is depicted as the lamb that approaches the throne and takes the scroll. Is Jesus the Son, the Father, or the Holy Spirit?

 

[Eugene]

Is Jesus the Son, the Father, or the Holy Spirit?

Okay I give and say uncle. Thanks anyway.