Three person God identified in the Bible?

[Featherbop]

[quote="Darck Marck":f80d0]The term "three person God" isn't mentioned anywhere in the Bible to my knowledge either. I'm not sure what exactly you are searching for, or if you just like to argue.

I am not looking for the term "three person God" to be explicitly stated in Scripture. I just want ONE Scripture where this three person God is even mentioned without asking me to imagine something into the text which is not there. Where is this Three person God mentioned in the Bible? I can't seem to find a single mention of this God.

God is mentioned thousands of times in the Bible. Show me ONE single verse that identifies God as a three person being.[/quote:f80d0]

You claim not to be searching for the term "three person God" in the Bible, yet you want to find where the Bible mentions this three person God. Therefore, I can only conclude you are looking explicitly for the term "three person God." Otherwise, you would comprehend the Biblical implications of the trinity of God.

 

[Adams son]

[quote="Adams son":9be93][quote="Darck Marck":9be93]The term "three person God" isn't mentioned anywhere in the Bible to my knowledge either. I'm not sure what exactly you are searching for, or if you just like to argue.

I am not looking for the term "three person God" to be explicitly stated in Scripture. I just want ONE Scripture where this three person God is even mentioned without asking me to imagine something into the text which is not there. Where is this Three person God mentioned in the Bible? I can't seem to find a single mention of this God.

God is mentioned thousands of times in the Bible. Show me ONE single verse that identifies God as a three person being.[/quote:9be93]

You claim not to be searching for the term "three person God" in the Bible, yet you want to find where the Bible mentions this three person God. Therefore, I can only conclude you are looking explicitly for the term "three person God." Otherwise, you would comprehend the Biblical implications of the trinity of God.[/quote:9be93]

Well I am not sure how you draw such conclusions. It seems to me that you should be able to point to a place in Scripture that identifies this three person God. The words "three person God" do not need to appear there okay? Just point to one place, just one place, where this three person God is identified in the Bible. Else why would anyone believe this three person God even exists?

 

[Featherbop]

Well I am not sure how you draw such conclusions.

From your posts.

It seems to me that you should be able to point to a place in Scripture that identifies this three person God.

Ok, help me understand what you want.

What exactly does need to be mentioned in the Bible to make you see the implications of this "three person God".

Be precise and to the point, please.

The words "three person God" do not need to appear there okay?

You say that, but I don't think you mean it.

Just point to one place, just one place, where this three person God is identified in the Bible.

Here again, you say the term 'TPG' doesn't need to be stated in the Bible, but you want a passage that identifys a 'TPG'.

Else why would anyone believe this three person God even exists?

They have no trouble comprehending obvious implications.....


Marck

 

[Nocturnal_Principal_X]

Lets be civil people...things are getting a little to hot in here.

 

[Adams son]

Well I am not sure how you draw such conclusions.

From your posts.

[quote:f121c]It seems to me that you should be able to point to a place in Scripture that identifies this three person God.

Ok, help me understand what you want.

What exactly does need to be mentioned in the Bible to make you see the implications of this "three person God".

Be precise and to the point, please.

The words "three person God" do not need to appear there okay?

You say that, but I don't think you mean it.

Just point to one place, just one place, where this three person God is identified in the Bible.

Here again, you say the term 'TPG' doesn't need to be stated in the Bible, but you want a passage that identifys a 'TPG'.

Else why would anyone believe this three person God even exists?

They have no trouble comprehending obvious implications.....


Marck[/quote:f121c]

Okay let me go REaaaaaaal slow k?

Is God hiding somewhere in your Bible and is God hard to find in your Bible?

Or is the Bible a book that is supposed to reveal God to men?

Point to any place in the Bible which refers to a three person God? Anywhere. Somewhere this three person God must be mentioned in the Bible. Where?

Or are you saying this three person God is simply not mentioned in the Bible?

Let me even make it easier for you:

1. Do you insist a three person God exists?

2. Where can I find this three person God mentioned in the Bible?

 

[greyfeather]

Thre persons God identified in the Bible

Adams son,

I have looked myself for what you are trying to find. I find things confusing as to this topic, there are places in the Bible which state things that make it seem that Jesus and God are seperate. These are some that confuse me.

Jhon 5
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.

Jhon 8
17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

These seem to say God and Jesus are Father and Son but not one . I just can not fully understand the trinity because of alot of other places where it states God is the Father of Jesus.

 

[Adams son]

Re: Thre persons God identified in the Bible

Adams son,

I have looked myself for what you are trying to find. I find things confusing as to this topic, there are places in the Bible which state things that make it seem that Jesus and God are seperate. These are some that confuse me.

Jhon 5
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.

Jhon 8
17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

These seem to say God and Jesus are Father and Son but not one . I just can not fully understand the trinity because of alot of other places where it states God is the Father of Jesus.

Well before you try to understand a three person God let's first establish that this God actually exists.

Nobody is disputing that Jesus and the Father are two separate persons. What we need to find here is where this three person God is identified in the Bible? I can't seem to find this God anywhere in the Bible.

 

[Free]

As Judy pointed out above, 2 COr. 13:14. I would also add Matt. 28:19:

"'Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,'"

But I am quite certain that you have anticipated this very verse and have a ready reply.

 

[Adams son]

As Judy pointed out above, 2 COr. 13:14. I would also add Matt. 28:19:

"'Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,'"

But I am quite certain that you have anticipated this very verse and have a ready reply.

Well let's see. Hmmmm.... Yes God seems to be one of the persons mentioned in these verses. However he seems to be a single person and the Father of Jesus Christ.

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.

Now where is your mention of a three person God from the Bible again?

Or..... was I supposed to use my imagination there?

 

[Free]

Yes God seems to be one of the persons mentioned in these verses. However he seems to be a single person and the Father of Jesus Christ.

There are three persons mentioned, are there not? They are to baptize into the singular "name". I'm curious, if the Son and the Holy Spirit are not God, then why mention them at all? Why not baptize into the name of the Father only?

 

[Adams son]

Yes God seems to be one of the persons mentioned in these verses. However he seems to be a single person and the Father of Jesus Christ.

There are three persons mentioned, are there not?

No but that is not relevant to the point anyway. If you want to say there are three persons mentioned please do so but it won't make any difference. It seems you want everyone to imagine these three persons are a three person God when God is already one of the persons mentioned. Why do you do such things?

They are to baptize into the singular "name".

And what do you suppose "name" means at Matthew 28:19? A name like "Bob" or "Joe" such as "YVVH?"

I'm curious, if the Son and the Holy Spirit are not God, then why mention them at all? Why not baptize into the name of the Father only?

Read Matthew 28:18 and Acts 2:36 for starters.

And it is through Jesus we have access to God because it is through him we have our sins forgiven and can have peace with God and enjoy the fullness of God through the Spirit when he raises us up with him.

Read 1 Timothy 2:5 for more help. Jesus mediates between us and God through the Holy Spirit.

 

[Free]

No but that is not relevant to the point anyway.

Yes, it is.

It seems you want everyone to imagine these three persons are a three person God when God is already one of the persons mentioned.

No imagining required. It seems you want everyone to imagine that God is already one of the persons mentioned. Why do you do such things?

So if the Holy Spirit is a person, who is he?

And what do you suppose "name" means at Matthew 28:19? A name like "Bob" or "Joe" such as "YVVH?"

"The name...is the expression of the sum total of the divine Being: not his designation as God or Lord, but the formula in which all his attributes and characteristics are summed up. It is equivalent to his person. The finite mind can deal with him only through his name; but his name is of no avail detached from his nature." (M. R. Vincent)

Let's grant for a moment that you are right in what you stated earlier, that "God is already one of the persons mentioned". If this is the case, then Jesus tells us to baptize into the singular "name" of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. If the Father is the only one who is God, then how could two persons who are not God, share the same name with God?

What do you suppose "name" means? Who do you say that Christ is?

 

[Adams son]

No but that is not relevant to the point anyway.

Yes, it is.

Well if you say so. I have noticed you are the authority on all matters.

It seems you want everyone to imagine these three persons are a three person God when God is already one of the persons mentioned.

No imagining required. It seems you want everyone to imagine that God is already one of the persons mentioned. Why do you do such things?

Do you actually have anything substantial to say?

So if the Holy Spirit is a person, who is he?

The Holy Spirit is a person but is not a third distinct person from the Father and Jesus. The Spirit of God is God the Father because God is spirit and Holy Spirit is what our Holy God is. The HS is the presence of God the Father here on earth.

ms son"]And what do you suppose "name" means at Matthew 28:19? A name like "Bob" or "Joe" such as "YVVH?"

"The name...is the expression of the sum total of the divine Being: not his designation as God or Lord, but the formula in which all his attributes and characteristics are summed up. It is equivalent to his person. The finite mind can deal with him only through his name; but his name is of no avail detached from his nature." (M. R. Vincent)

LOL. Okay I get it. It means whatever is necessary to mean for the sake of Trinitarian theology.

And um, should not your quote say, "It is eqiuivalent to his personS"? Hmmmm?

No Free, the word "NAME" in Matthew 28:19 is an inference to the authority of God and of Jesus his Son and this authority is made possible by the HS. God gave Jesus all authority over heaven and earth by raising him in the power of the Spirit. So he says that all authority is given to ME and then says, "Go therefore...." You should be able to figure it out from there. Same idea at Acts 2:33,36.

Let's grant for a moment that you are right in what you stated earlier, that "God is already one of the persons mentioned". If this is the case, then Jesus tells us to baptize into the singular "name" of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. If the Father is the only one who is God, then how could two persons who are not God, share the same name with God?

What do you suppose "name" means? Who do you say that Christ is?

The singular name refers to a singular authority not a singular person (or "being") Free. Jesus was given God's authority by God through the HS. He says so.

Christ is the Son of the Living God. Who do YOU say that Christ is? Something other than the appropriate answer given by Peter?

Face it Free. A three person God is not mentioned anywhere in your Bible but you want to believe a three person God exists despite this fact. It is a "see what I made" God that was fashioned by gathering up building materials from the Bible in order to create this god and then claiming this god actually exists.

 

[evanman]

[quote="Darck Marck":e0c3e]The term "three person God" isn't mentioned anywhere in the Bible to my knowledge either. I'm not sure what exactly you are searching for, or if you just like to argue.

I am not looking for the term "three person God" to be explicitly stated in Scripture. I just want ONE Scripture where this three person God is even mentioned without asking me to imagine something into the text which is not there. Where is this Three person God mentioned in the Bible? I can't seem to find a single mention of this God.

God is mentioned thousands of times in the Bible. Show me ONE single verse that identifies God as a three person being.[/quote:e0c3e]

The word "God" is not mentioned anywhere in the Book of esther. Does this mean that God is not present in the Book of Esther?

Following your argument I would have to conclude that god is nowhere to be found in the Book of Esther.

 

[Free]

Do you actually have anything substantial to say?

Hmm...I used your own words...

The Holy Spirit is a person but is not a third distinct person from the Father and Jesus. The Spirit of God is God the Father because God is spirit and Holy Spirit is what our Holy God is. The HS is the presence of God the Father here on earth.

Now that is interesting. So why all the differentiation between the Father and the Holy Spirit if they are one and the same? Why the need in Matt. 28:19 to say "the Father...and the Holy Spirit" if they are one and the same?

Rom. 8:9-11, "9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you."

Acts 16:6-7, "6 They passed through the Phrygian and Galatian region, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia; 7 and after they came to Mysia, they were trying to go into Bithynia, and the Spirit of Jesus did not permit them;"

There is much more that can be said, but I'll stop there for now and ask again: Who is the Holy Spirit?

LOL. Okay I get it. It means whatever is necessary to mean for the sake of Trinitarian theology.

And I'm sure it means whatever you say it means for the sake of your own personal theology. :-?

No Free, the word "NAME" in Matthew 28:19 is an inference to the authority of God and of Jesus his Son and this authority is made possible by the HS.

It is the same as in the Lord's Prayer: "hallowed be thy name." His authority that has been given is seen in sending them out to make disciples, baptizing them in the "name". I'm sure if you spent some time looking up "name" in a lexicon you would find that what I initially stated was correct.

God gave Jesus all authority over heaven and earth by raising him in the power of the Spirit.

Another interesting point is that Jesus said he would raise his own body. Did Jesus lie?

A three person God is not mentioned anywhere in your Bible but you want to believe a three person God exists despite this fact.

:-? Whatever Adams son. Let's all believe what you say for no reason whatsoever. The Trinity is strongly implied throughout the NT, so strongly that one has to be blind to not see it. But if you don't want to believe it, that's your choice and you'll have to deal with the consequences.

 

[Adams son]

Do you actually have anything substantial to say?

Hmm...I used your own words...

[quote="Adams son":284af]The Holy Spirit is a person but is not a third distinct person from the Father and Jesus. The Spirit of God is God the Father because God is spirit and Holy Spirit is what our Holy God is. The HS is the presence of God the Father here on earth.

Now that is interesting. So why all the differentiation between the Father and the Holy Spirit if they are one and the same? Why the need in Matt. 28:19 to say "the Father...and the Holy Spirit" if they are one and the same?

[/quote:284af]

Why all the differentiation between me and my finger if they are one and the same? God is a word that tells us WHO we are talking about. The Holy Spirit is WHAT we are talking about. Man is sinful flesh. My flesh is ME. The Holy God is Holy Spirit. That Holy Spirit is God the Father and is the stuff of the Father and now of the risen Jesus

Observe and learn:

1. Parallel Verses

When they bring you before the synagogues and the rulers and the authorities, do not worry about how or what you are to speak in your defense, or what you are to say; for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say. (Luke 12:11-12).

But beware of men, for they will hand you over to the courts and scourge you in their synagogues; nd you will even be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. "But when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. (Matthew 10:17-20).

2. Who was Jesus' father who conceived him? Was the human being Jesus conceived by his Father or was this man conceived by another person altogether called the Holy Spirit?

The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God. (Luke 1:35).

Rom. 8:9-11, "9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you."
[/quiote]

Are you sure you really want to explore this passage? It goes against you not for you. Let me put it this way.... WHO is interceding for the saints?

[quote:284af]
Acts 16:6-7, "6 They passed through the Phrygian and Galatian region, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia; 7 and after they came to Mysia, they were trying to go into Bithynia, and the Spirit of Jesus did not permit them;"

Well thank you for showing that the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Jesus are the same. Kinda hard for you now to say that the HS is one person and Jesus is another person now isn't it? thanx again.

Jesus was raised in the Spirit to be "life-giving Spirit" remember? Maybe that is why Paul says "the Lord IS the Spirit."

Catching on yet?

There is much more that can be said, but I'll stop there for now and ask again: Who is the Holy Spirit?

The Holy Spirit is not an independent WHO. The Spirit is the nature of God the Father and now of the risen Jesus. That is why we are told that when the HS comes into us that the Father and Jesus will make our home with us. Catching on yet?

LOL. Okay I get it. It means whatever is necessary to mean for the sake of Trinitarian theology.

And I'm sure it means whatever you say it means for the sake of your own personal theology. :-?
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YOur quote means whatever I want it to mean eh? Well ooookkaaay then... whatever you wanna think. Looks to me like you are just throwing around distracting banter because you cannot provide an answer to the original question. I am STILL waiting.

No Free, the word "NAME" in Matthew 28:19 is an inference to the authority of God and of Jesus his Son and this authority is made possible by the HS.

It is the same as in the Lord's Prayer: "hallowed be thy name." His authority that has been given is seen in sending them out to make disciples, baptizing them in the "name". I'm sure if you spent some time looking up "name" in a lexicon you would find that what I initially stated was correct.

LOL. Oh yeah a lexicon is gonna solve it all eh?

God gave Jesus all authority over heaven and earth by raising him in the power of the Spirit.

Another interesting point is that Jesus said he would raise his own body. Did Jesus lie?

You can't focus can you? Where is the answer to my question. How about you answer my question and show me a place where I can find a three person God in the Bible and then I will be extremely pleased to address John 2:19 for you. Or perhaps you can start a thread on John 2:19. Say there's an idea ferya. Or were you just trying to hijack this thread in order to avoid the issue at hand like you usually do?

Here is your first clue for John 2:19. In John, Jesus makes a point over and over and over, that his words were not his own. Whose were they?

A three person God is not mentioned anywhere in your Bible but you want to believe a three person God exists despite this fact.

:-? Whatever Adams son. Let's all believe what you say for no reason whatsoever. The Trinity is strongly implied throughout the NT, so strongly that one has to be blind to not see it. But if you don't want to believe it, that's your choice and you'll have to deal with the consequences.

[/quote:284af]

See what I mean? You have NO answer to the question. You want to believe a three person God is indicated in the Bible but yet you cannot find him in there anywhere. You must build this god of yours by piling up select passages to create an image of your God. Just think about how sad that is.

So where is this three person God mentioned in the Bible? Since the
Bible is about God this three person God should not be hard to find in there dontcha think? Or is your god so disingenuous that he plays games about his real identity? No, your three person god is a product of your own imagination. This god doesn't exist except in your own mind.

 

[Featherbop]

Quit contradicting yourself already, it's getting old fast.

You either must have the term "three person God" mentioned in the Bible, or you do not.

You have claimed you do not require the term "TPG" explicitly mentioned in the Bible to be convinced of the trinity of God.

But, you claim you want to see this "three person God" mentioned in the Bible.

Now, *without contradicting yourself* What do you need(Specifically) to understand the trinity of God?

 

[Adams son]

Quit contradicting yourself already, it's getting old fast.

You either must have the term "three person God" mentioned in the Bible, or you do not.

You have claimed you do not require the term "TPG" explicitly mentioned in the Bible to be convinced of the trinity of God.

But, you claim you want to see this "three person God" mentioned in the Bible.

Now, *without contradicting yourself* What do you need(Specifically) to understand the trinity of God?

Looks like you don't catch on too quick.

So let me make it even easier for you.

Here's a little story for you.

"There was an invasion Iraq. It was led by the Commander in Chief of the United States of America."

There. Now please identify the President in that little story above.

You will notice that the word "President" does not need to be there to identify the President in that story and to tell me where he is mentioned... does it?

Hopefully you will catch on now.

Now do the same thing with the three person God. Find him in the Bible. Where is he? This God must be in there somewhere.

 

[Free]

Now do the same thing with the three person God. Find him in the Bible. Where is he? This God must be in there somewhere.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

 

[Adams son]

Now do the same thing with the three person God. Find him in the Bible. Where is he? This God must be in there somewhere.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

Yes God the Father created the heavens and earth.

Now where is this three person God that you claim is hiding somewhere in your Bible?

Still can't find this elusive three person God of yours mentioned anywhere in the book.