Thy will be done as it is in Heaven

[for_his_glory]

What I believe right now in my life through my interpretation of the bible is this; satan was doing what the Lord created him to do when he "tempted " Adam and Eve(The Fall). I do not believe the war in heaven or satans fall from heaven was until either Jesus's death or His resurrection. During this three day period satans job became void. The Lord could no longer see or know of man's sin because of what my Savior Jesus of Nazareth did on the cross. Jesus is now the judge and prosecuter. satan could no longer stand before the Lord and accuse the saints day and night. This enraged satan and a war started and satan and a third of the angels were cast out of heaven to the earth.

I don't know how you believe about Genesis 6 but that is a separate event from satans fall from heaven.

I don't necessarily believe we can understand the creation of heaven and earth in the sense of time. I think it's arrogance of man to say it was 6 earth days and that's it. That being said I think by the time day 6 came around satan had already started his corruption of all of creation. I believe heaven was corrupted before the earth was created. I do not believe the current heaven was holy if ever for very long.

In your question you said," did Jesus cause war in heaven?" Yes, by what He did through His death, burial, and resurrection. The war was to remove satan and his curruption. So, we are praying for new earth to come where satan will not be which is the Father's Will.

If this still does not answer your question please be patient with me. I am trying my best. As CS Lewis said, " Don't be your best but try your best."

I am a olive tree
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[for_his_glory]

Is lying a sin? Read I kings 22:19-23

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

1Ki 22:20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
1Ki 22:21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.
1Ki 22:22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

This spirit is obviously a fallen angel under Satan's rule that volunteered for this task of lying to Ahab since Ahab wanted to be deceived and God gave him what he wanted going up against Ramothgilead, which caused his death instead of victory.

This spirit is a personified spirit of prophecy, Zechariah 13:2; 1John 4:6, working through a false prophet, for even the false prophets may be governed by supernatural or spiritual forces rather than merely human reasoning. It represents the power of a lie in the mouth of someone opposed to the truth and speaking for his own end.

 

[for_his_glory]

Where does Job 1:6 fit in?

Not sure who you are asking this question to?

Where does Job 1:6 fit into what?

 

[Whatever]

What I believe right now in my life through my interpretation of the bible is this; satan was doing what the Lord created him to do when he "tempted " Adam and Eve(The Fall).

I except that in a sense. God used Satan to temp Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. But I don't believe Satan was created evil. I think that like Adam, Satan was created good but with the ability (call it free will or whatever) to become evil.

Ezekiel 28:15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.

This was talking about the Prince of Tyre. But in the several verses prior to this The description of the king of Tyre as the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty, as having been in Eden, the garden of God, as having every precious stone as a covering, as being the anointed cherub, and as having been on the holy mountain of God, taken together seem too impressive for any great ruler, even allowing for great use of hyperbole, or literary exaggeration.

As one commentator explains:
Ezekiel . . . appeared to have the situation of his day in mind with his attention riveted upon the ruler of Tyre, the embodiment of the people's pride and godlessness. But as he viewed the thoughts and ways of that monarch, he clearly discerned behind him the motivating force and personality who was impelling him in his opposition to God. In short, he saw the work and activity of Satan, whom the king of Tyre was emulating in so many ways.

Genesis says And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. (Gen 1:31)
I don't think that a lying, deceiving angel would be referred to as "very good."
Pro 12:22 Lying lips are an abomination to the LORD, . . .

 

[Whatever]

Is lying a sin? Read I kings 22:19-23

And God even approved of this Spirit doing what he said he would do.
I think lying is considered a sin when:
1. The person doing it is to avoid being caught. "No officer I was only going 55."
2. The person doing it is doing it to hurt another - like bearing false witness "So and so is a fascist."

Except in the case of # 1, Scripture seems to uphold the Jewish women who wouldn't kill sons when they were born.

Exo 1:16 and he said, "When you do the duties of a midwife for the Hebrew women, and see them on the birthstools, if it is a son, then you shall kill him; but if it is a daughter, then she shall live."
Exo 1:17 But the midwives feared God, and did not do as the king of Egypt commanded them, but saved the male children alive.
Exo 1:18 So the king of Egypt called for the midwives and said to them, "Why have you done this thing, and saved the male children alive?"
Exo 1:19 And the midwives said to Pharaoh, "Because the Hebrew women are not like the Egyptian women; for they are lively and give birth before the midwives come to them." (which was a lie)
Exo 1:20 Therefore God dealt well with the midwives, and the people multiplied and grew very mighty.

 

[Whatever]

Treason

James_2:25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

When these strange men came into their city, Rahab lied to the men who were looking for them and sent them the wrong way. The Jews killed every man, woman and child in that city. I'm pretty sure in today's language we would call that treason = The betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts.I
We would also call that Genocide is understood by most to be the gravest crime against humanity. It is defined as a mass extermination of a particular group of people.

Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

That is a false dispensational idea that is made up by misinterpretation of passages.

No it's not, there will be a millennial reign with a distinct beginning and a distinct end (Rev. 20:6-7), no one made it up.

Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison ...

 

[I am a olive tree]

I except that in a sense. God used Satan to temp Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. But I don't believe Satan was created evil. I think that like Adam, Satan was created good but with the ability (call it free will or whatever) to become evil.

Ezekiel 28:15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.

This was talking about the Prince of Tyre. But in the several verses prior to this The description of the king of Tyre as the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty, as having been in Eden, the garden of God, as having every precious stone as a covering, as being the anointed cherub, and as having been on the holy mountain of God, taken together seem too impressive for any great ruler, even allowing for great use of hyperbole, or literary exaggeration.

As one commentator explains:
Ezekiel . . . appeared to have the situation of his day in mind with his attention riveted upon the ruler of Tyre, the embodiment of the people's pride and godlessness. But as he viewed the thoughts and ways of that monarch, he clearly discerned behind him the motivating force and personality who was impelling him in his opposition to God. In short, he saw the work and activity of Satan, whom the king of Tyre was emulating in so many ways.

Genesis says And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. (Gen 1:31)
I don't think that a lying, deceiving angel would be referred to as "very good."
Pro 12:22 Lying lips are an abomination to the LORD, . . .

I agree with you. The enemy, satan was not created evil. I believe He was created to tempt and accuse man. Why would the Lord allow satan to stand before Him day and night and accuse the saints? Or, why would the Lord even put the tree of knowledge in the garden and then allow satan to tempt Eve with it?

If you were evicted from the place you lived would you be able to come back to it? The way man teaches satan had already been evicted from heaven when he tempted Eve in the garden. Then satan shows back up before the Lord in Job. This makes no sense unless satan is still doing what he was created by the Lord to do.

 

[I am a olive tree]

Treason

James_2:25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

When these strange men came into their city, Rahab lied to the men who were looking for them and sent them the wrong way. The Jews killed every man, woman and child in that city. I'm pretty sure in today's language we would call that treason = The betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts.I
We would also call that Genocide is understood by most to be the gravest crime against humanity. It is defined as a mass extermination of a particular group of people.

Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

These are good points. Sinful acts are not always sin if they are done for the right reasons, like some wars.

 

[I am a olive tree]

I am a olive tree
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[Whatever]

shall reign with Him a thousand years.

All I can say is that "thousand" is sometimes used as a unlimited amount.

Psa 50:10 For every beast of the forest is Mine, And the cattle on a thousand hills.

Psa 105:8 He remembers His covenant forever, The word which He commanded, for a thousand generations,
Does God stop remembering after a thousand generations? Seems like "forever" and "thousand" are equivalent.

 

[Bruce.Leiter]

Mat 6:10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven.

This seems to imply that God's will is always done in Heaven.

Rev 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.

Somebody could say:
"Sounds like the Prince of Peace cannot prevent war in Heaven any more than He does on Earth."

What say Y'all.

People often want to blame God for evil events, when it's really all the fault of the devil, the demons, and humans that they have rebelled against God. Why he didn't prevent the war and human rebellion from happening, he must have a very good reason, but he has not shared it with us. It's a mystery that we cannot solve, because the Bible doesn't say.

 

[Whatever]

Why he didn't prevent the war and human rebellion from happening, he must have a very good reason

A guy named Scott Christensen has written 2 books on this subject.
The first book: What about Evil?: A Defense of God's Sovereign Glory is pretty academic. it is 576 pages.
Then people asked him to make it more accessible to regular people so he wrote the shorter one.
Defeating Evil: How God Glorifies Himself in a Dark World. It is 240 pages.

Here is the link for the first book with a lot of endorsements:

What about Evil?: A Defense of God's Sovereign Glory

Reconciling the existence of God and evil is a conundrum in Christian theology, and a philosophical approach rather than a theological one dominates. Turning to the Bible's grand storyline, Scott Christensen examines how sin, evil, corruption, and death fit into the broad outlines of redemptive...

www.wtsbooks.com

Here is the link for the shorter book:

Defeating Evil: How God Glorifies Himself in a Dark World

Revised, adapted, and condensed for a broader audience, this companion edition to Scott Christensen’s lauded What about Evil? shows how sin, evil, corruption, and death fit into redemptive history. Exploring the storyline of Scripture and addressing practical concerns, Christensen shows that...

www.wtsbooks.com

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

All I can say is that "thousand" is sometimes used as a unlimited amount.

Psa 50:10 For every beast of the forest is Mine, And the cattle on a thousand hills.

Psa 105:8 He remembers His covenant forever, The word which He commanded, for a thousand generations,
Does God stop remembering after a thousand generations? Seems like "forever" and "thousand" are equivalent.

No it's not, whenever it comes down to numbers, God is precise and specific.