Topics that most churches and the forums dont like to addres

[shad]

The military.

Divorce and remarriage.

Obedience.

Widespread hypocrisy in the churches.

Trinitarians ostracizing non-trinitarians.

Churches not addressing ongoing sins.

Faithfulness to Jesus until the end.

I just listed them up randomely.

 

[NestForASparrow]

Did you write this?

Can God Be Undeniably Proved To Exist ?
by Shad » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:28 pm

I know all about the bible and the stories passed down from generation to generation etc.... But the Greeks once worshiped hundreds of different Gods truly believing in their hearts that they existed to which we now know they did not. They even wrote stories about these Gods and the wonderful or terrible things they did kinda like the christian bible does. So who is to say that the christian God is not a made up myth like the likes of Zeus, Atlas, Apollo, Hades, etc... What physical proof do we have to prove that God actually exists besides stories that can't be explained by science ?

 

[DrFrank]

WAIT! WAIT!! I have another one.

There is a very valid reason why the hell-sending sin of pornography is almost never mentioned in most churches.

A recent completely anonymous survey sent to the clergy in the world's largest exporter of pornographic material,the United States,revealed that a full forty (40%) of them are regular users of pornography. :help

DID YOU EVER WONDER WHY SEX CRIMES ARE SO POPULAR ? :verysad

 

[shad]

DID YOU EVER WONDER WHY SEX CRIMES ARE SO POPULAR ? :verysad

I dont know if you call that popular but I know many, many are in this sin and the churches don't address it. Though they do finger point at homosexuals, homosexual marriage, abortion, ect. Jesus says if we marry to a divorced person we are committing adultery. Do you know many churchgoers are remarrying unbiblically?

 

[shad]

Did you write this?

Can God Be Undeniably Proved To Exist ?
by Shad » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:28 pm

I know all about the bible and the stories passed down from generation to generation etc.... But the Greeks once worshiped hundreds of different Gods truly believing in their hearts that they existed to which we now know they did not. They even wrote stories about these Gods and the wonderful or terrible things they did kinda like the christian bible does. So who is to say that the christian God is not a made up myth like the likes of Zeus, Atlas, Apollo, Hades, etc... What physical proof do we have to prove that God actually exists besides stories that can't be explained by science ?

Where did you find this? Please post a link for me because I don't recognize it. I am not an atheist. I am a Christian. It seems that the above statement is an atheist's.

 

[Lewis]

My pastor talks about all of that and way beyond, he does not sugar coat anything. My pastor will not do the itching ears thing, at all.

 

[jasoncran]

My pastor talks about all of that and way beyond, he does not sugar coat anything. My pastor will not do the itching ears thing, at all.

neither does mine, nor any of the churches that i have went to for a few yrs.

 

[shad]

Jason and Luis,

what denomination are you?

BTW, in case of the military, they are proud of the soldiers, aren't they? Otherwise you will not attend that church, Jason?

I have joined major denominations and I can tell if you are being honest in your comments.

 

[Nick]

My pastor talks about all of that and way beyond, he does not sugar coat anything. My pastor will not do the itching ears thing, at all.

neither does mine, nor any of the churches that i have went to for a few yrs.

While my church doesn't address all of these directly, such as military, it won't shy away from questions if they're brought up. We're not for sugar-coating either. It's sad to see so many 'feel good' churches out there.

 

[Nick]

BTW, in case of the military, they are proud of the soldiers, aren't they? Otherwise you will not attend that church, Jason?

Soldiers do a good job defending the country. An outstanding job, and they deserve our respect. Sure, I definately don't agree with everything they do.

I have joined major denominations and I can tell if you are being honest in your comments.

What you must understand, is that denominations differ from country to country and probably from state to state sometimes. I'm a member of the Sydney diocese of Anglican churches, and we are low Anglican. We're quite different in some aspects from other Anglican diocese in Australia, or even the high Anglicans back in England. You can only draw from your experiences. Don't just put a blanket approach over all Baptists, for example.

 

[jasoncran]

the christian missionary alliance is one that i attended for a while
the church of god is the one i'm with, though not a member
and i have listen to alot of the large calvary chapel church guys to know their doctrine.


and the longest i attended was the new begginings chruch and that was a non demonational one.

food for thought, the members of ceaser's household may have been guards of the ceaser and also slaves and also family.

 

[PouringRain]

My pastor talks about all of that and way beyond, he does not sugar coat anything. My pastor will not do the itching ears thing, at all.

Ditto.

Actually, almost all of the churches I have attended have not been shy about preaching on any of those things.

 

[shad]

What you must understand, is that denominations differ from country to country and probably from state to state sometimes. I'm a member of the Sydney diocese of Anglican churches, and we are low Anglican. We're quite different in some aspects from other Anglican diocese in Australia, or even the high Anglicans back in England. You can only draw from your experiences. Don't just put a blanket approach over all Baptists, for example.

Nick, I am in America and your denomination is not one of the major ones. I have joined many kinds of baptists. I am confident of my observation or I will be falsely witnessing which is major sin.

In fact, I have joined so many churches and had fellowship with them deeply. I did not fool around fellowshipping with them because I was zealous about getting to know the congregation when I was a new believer. I gave them all benefit of the doubt. All I got was disappointment after disappointment and I came to conclusion that the organization is not for my family. Since then I have peace and joy with God. I came to conclusion that they are not interested in being obedient to Jesus, and rather to their church, pastor and organization.

 

[shad]

It is expected to get this kind of replies, otherwise they would not attend their church.

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[jasoncran]

odd, my church isnt like that at all, our pastor harps on knowing the bible and to bring a bible to church.

so is another that i listen on the radio, the calvary chapel guys read the bible verse by verse and preach on that. i have listen to four different pastors three in florida, one in maine. and one in california.

 

[shad]

I guess my observation is very different from most of you because my observation stem from that if we support the military we cannot be truthful to Jesus because we are denying very essence of Jesus' teaching of "love your enemy".

"love your enemy" is utmost loving and noble teaching of Jesus that we should be proud of it instead of denying it with our action.

This is my conviction that most of us are in deep trouble because of this practice.

I already had thread about the military and I will not get into debate about it again.

 

[Vic C.]

Jason and Luis,

what denomination are you?

BTW, in case of the military, they are proud of the soldiers, aren't they? Otherwise you will not attend that church, Jason?

I have joined major denominations and I can tell if you are being honest in your comments.

Many denominations aren't dictated by a hierarchy that tells them what should be avoided.

Plus, if the great and honorable soldiers who died fighting the Brits to preserve the liberties you enjoy in the US, had that attitude, they would have never fought and you would most likely be an Anglican too.



A friend of mine once told me a joke about a man who refused to join a church because he claimed there were too many hypocrites. He was told, "Good, don't join. One less hypocrite." :D

 

[Nick]

Nick, I am in America and your denomination is not one of the major ones.

Not in America. And that's partially my point.

 

[shad]

Plus, if the great and honorable soldiers who died fighting the Brits to preserve the liberties you enjoy in the US, had that attitude, they would have never fought and you would most likely be an Anglican too.

It is sad that you don't think you have freedom unless you have the military. Jesus' followers are free anywhere. His followers don't rely on chariots and hoses to enjoy freedom in Christ.

 

[Nick]

Plus, if the great and honorable soldiers who died fighting the Brits to preserve the liberties you enjoy in the US, had that attitude, they would have never fought and you would most likely be an Anglican too.

It is sad that you don't think you have freedom unless you have the military. Jesus' followers are free anywhere. His followers don't rely on chariots and hoses to enjoy freedom in Christ.

They wanted freedom from the British monarchial rule - the freedom to rule their own country. The British only give up colonies (at least back then) via a military defeat. I'm sure the Americans would have tried diplomacy first - but that wasn't the British's strong point.