Topics that most churches and the forums dont like to addres

[GojuBrian]

Shad,

The things you have written here are a big reason why I've been staying away from this forum. It's a sad state of mind you have toward the military. You also want to bash on what you preceive churches do or do not want to talk about??? Based on what? Your personal experience?

Where I'm from no topic is not welcome with open honesty, we value our military, and we believe the bible is the inspired word of God,period.

 

[shad]

Shad,

and we believe the bible is the inspired word of God,period.

And I also believe the Bible is inspired word of God.

I am sorry you feel this way. You stay away from the forum because of me? I am the only one who are protesting against the military.

Free countries' Christians are living very easy Christianity. It is because we cannot handle difficult conditions. Jesus cherish His followers who persevere difficult conditions. Jesus is not for powerful countries, He is for oppressed people.

 

[Vic C.]

It's not exactly easy to worship God in many countries. Why not use the freedom you have for God? I think many of us take it for granted.

Jesus cherishes Christians who are in persecuted countries. They are the elect. Most of us in free countries are in trouble because we are living such an easy Christianity. I believe we are in such easy places because we cannot handle tough situations. God will not give us tough assignment too hard for us to handle.

What kind of flawed logic is that!

I am here because my grandfather had the sense to leave Italy at the time Mussolini was gaining strength. I have the confidence and faith to believe his leaving Italy for a better life was God's will. God gives some the ability to flee when needed and also to fight when needed as well. We should not pretend to know the will of God.

Shad, I understand your distaste for the military, but from a Biblical standpoint I don't see how it applies. I understand Jesus was talking to people that had issues with personal relationships and had a very narrow definition of a "neighbor".

If you weren't some sort of blood relative, chances are they didn't see you as a friend or neighbor. Remember the Good Samaritan parable?

Anyway, please don't be so quick to pass judgment on those whose beliefs on this subject differ from yours.

What I don't comprehend is this: those who live in the US and denounce the military and all they do to preserve your way of life are sort of biting the hand that feeds them.

Don't you think it's hypocritical to reap from that which you detest so much? Those who despise the Western way of life wish us dead but have absolutely no problems raking in the US $$$.

I should stop now before I start quoting Nicholson from the movie, A Few Good Men.

 

[shad]

Anyway, please don't be so quick to pass judgment on those whose beliefs on this subject differ from yours.

I only know that Jesus is for oppressed and poor, not for powerful and wealthy.
We are fooling ourselves believing that we are blessed by God because we are so wealthy.

 

[jasoncran]

what of the wealthy kuwaitis that were buthered in asi al salim? i have seen this place.

they were killed for no reason other then the fact they were drilling for oil. sadaam had lusted for kuwait yrs before the iraq war, the drilling problems could have been resolved peaceably.

hmm. so the rich man called the son of consolation wasnt love and used by the Lord(barnabas)?

 

[shad]

Forgive me Jason but I just dont understand what you are saying. Would you rephrase it?

thanks.

 

[jasoncran]

kuwaitis were massacred in kuwaitm that ran or owned the oil companies by the republican guard under orders from hussein at asi al salim.

two, the lord called barnabas into a ministry, the man that traveled with paul for a season was wealthy, he donated all that he had to the poor.

read the book of acts. you will see that the lord does use the rich.

 

[shad]

two, the lord called barnabas into a ministry, the man that traveled with paul for a season was wealthy, he donated all that he had to the poor.

So he was not rich after gave all to the poor. That's how Christians should be. We are boasting about our wealth saying God is blessing us, and in the mean time we have humongous debt to many countries too. Are you sure we are Christian nation?

 

[jasoncran]

read timothy. there were wealthy in that church.

theres no command to be poor shad, if so then we need not work at all then.

 

[Lewis]

Come on now, Jesus said the poor will always be with you. A likewise so will the rich. Some people are meant to be rich.

 

[shad]

read timothy. there were wealthy in that church.

theres no command to be poor shad, if so then we need not work at all then.

Jesus' followers should not be wanting more than we need. We are supposed to be salt and light of the world. If we live luxuriously like the rest of the world, we are not any better than the world.

Do you really think America is a Christian nation?

 

[jasoncran]

read timothy. there were wealthy in that church.

theres no command to be poor shad, if so then we need not work at all then.

Jesus' followers should not be wanting more than we need. We are supposed to be salt and light of the world. If we live luxuriously like the rest of the world, we are not any better than the world.

Do you really think America is a Christian nation?

it once was, but is moving fast away from that.

what other nation has the declaration of indepence that starts with this. we hold these truths self evident that all men are created equal and endowned with unalienable rights.

were is that based in. cant be anything but the christian judeo world view, thus the the bible.

so i guess working and owning this internet is a need to you. do we really need the internet, nope, i can pay all my bills the old fashioned way. i could if need be ride to work and so on

 

[jasoncran]

i know a few man that are worth a few million that love the lord and help the lost with thier money and also adopt children sponsor alcoholics to dunklin a rehab (christian for those)

then some use thier own money to do mission trips part of the year. and so on


one can have wealth and be a good steward of that gift of money, and win souls.

 

[shad]

i know a few man that are worth a few million that love the lord and help the lost with thier money and also adopt children sponsor alcoholics to dunklin a rehab (christian for those)

then some use thier own money to do mission trips part of the year. and so on


one can have wealth and be a good steward of that gift of money, and win souls.

You still not answering my question. Do you think America is a Christian nation?

 

[jasoncran]

i know a few man that are worth a few million that love the lord and help the lost with thier money and also adopt children sponsor alcoholics to dunklin a rehab (christian for those)

then some use thier own money to do mission trips part of the year. and so on


one can have wealth and be a good steward of that gift of money, and win souls.

You still not answering my question. Do you think America is a Christian nation?

i did, reread the above posts.

 

[shad]

i did, reread the above posts.

So because you know some wealthy people contributing to missionary work, America is Christian nation?

 

[jasoncran]

i did, reread the above posts.

So because you know some wealthy people contributing to missionary work, America is Christian nation?

no. i didnt imply that.

i was stating that some have wealth and use thier talents to bless the lord

if had a construction crew and team and the pastor came to me and prayed and asked me if i could build a chruch, and we prayed and the lord blessed me financially to do it. i would have to pay the workers and also be able to make ends meet.

is that evil to you?
i know some that have a landscaping business and used it to do work around my church and cut trees down

 

[shad]

no. i didnt imply that.

My question was if you believe America is a Christan nation. Why are you having such a hard time answering this simple question?]

 

[jasoncran]

double

its evil to use my own( i dont have that business but use that as example) to bless the lord?

odd.i have fixed cars for the poor and the church gave me the money to do give a few to the poor once i fixed them. is that evil as well

 

[jasoncran]

no. i didnt imply that.

My question was if you believe America is a Christan nation. Why are you having such a hard time answering this simple question?]

i said that america is drifting from the christian origins it had

maybe a quick history lesson is needed on the puritans is needed
as they didnt beleive in the massacres of the indians, they wanted to coexist with the indians in the massuchusets colony

see john winthrop on that.

they mayflower pact was a pact that was between men and the lord to share the gospel in the new world