Topics that most churches and the forums dont like to addres

[Mysteryman]

According to what shad ? When you make a blank statement like this, that has no biblical reference to support your comments, I am left speechless myself.

Jesus says to love your enemy. You are making it complicated just like trinitarians are making Jesus is Son of God making it complicated.

You dont love your enemy by killing them. The military kills your enemies.

All Christians are Jesus' soldiers because we are fighting against satan on a daily basis. But Jesus' followers are not physical soldiers because the military involves killing our enemies.

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Hi shad

Sadly, you are looking at this from a physical point of view. The Word tells us, that our enemy is spiritual, not physical. You continue to argue with others here, that they can not join the military and our nations physical enemies who are trying to kill us physically.

Try and understand shad, that our enemies are not physical - For we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but against principlaities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

[shad]

Hi shad

Sadly, you are looking at this from a physical point of view. The Word tells us, that our enemy is spiritual, not physical. You continue to argue with others here, that they can not join the military and our nations physical enemies who are trying to kill us physically.

Try and understand shad, that our enemies are not physical - For we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but against principlaities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

You are sill not answering my question. Are you saying that it is ok to kill for your country or people who are attacking you?

 

[shad]

Ever Sunday we talk about the military and our government. My pastor, and everyone in my church, is very proud of our soldiers and we never forget them in anything that we do. The pastor is very biblical in his preaching about soldiers.

I was a member of AOG too and I know they are very patriotic. It is so sad. It is unbiblical according to Jesus. You are twisting around the Bible.

No one in my church is divorced, actually. I can say that confidently, as my church is all of 30 people.

The church I attended was in chaos, the pastor did not know their members' disobedience.

Shoot, we were talking about how we need to obey the Word of God in every aspect of our lives just last Sunday!

They cherry pick what they obey.

I have personally talked to the pastor about this, however it has never come up in a sermon. I feel it has never been brought up in a sermon because my church, despite being AOG, is very much about the local flock, and there is little or no hypocrisy in my church.

Either you are lying or you dont know your members.

Well, I don't get this one. We are Pentecostal. We believe in the Trinity, why would we be anything but defensive of our beliefs in a Trinity? In fact, this is a very biased point here, Shad, because you are forcing that the Trinity is wrong. So, yes, I supposed we would be the ostracizing, just as we ostracize the pagan religions...

Ok, you will have to answer to God about this.

Churches not addressing ongoing sins.
Every day.

They dont know what kind of sin they are committing. You don't know killing your enemy is sin against Jesus because Jesus says to love your enemy.

Faithfulness to Jesus until the end.
Everyday

You dont know what sins are so you cannot be obedient to Him.

 

[shad]

Do the math… The family is already saved.

You cannot judge who will be saved. It is Jesus who judges, friend. We don't know who is saved until Jesus judges us.

Jesus' followers have hope for salvation.

 

[Pard]

I was a member of AOG too and I know they are very patriotic. It is so sad. It is unbiblical according to Jesus. You are twisting around the Bible.

Is it now? To what extent? There is nothing wrong with loving your country, so long as it doesn't surpass the love for God.

The church I attended was in chaos, the pastor did not know their members' disobedience

Well, that's to bad. Let's hope you are not generalizing all churches based on your experience.

They cherry pick what they obey.

Who are you to tell me what my church is or isn't saying? Maybe you should stop cherry picking yourself. Just because you have had a bad experience with a church doesn't mean we all do.

Either you are lying or you dont know your members.

You know what I can say for sure? You sure do not know anyone who attends my church, so shad... maybe you should stop accusing me and others, for that matter.

Ok, you will have to answer to God about this.

So will you. Luckily, God is pretty understanding of people who cannot fathom how complex and awesome He is, so don't worry shad, you ought to be fine.

They dont know what kind of sin they are committing. You don't know killing your enemy is sin against Jesus because Jesus says to love your enemy.

Shoot, I killed someone?

You dont know what sins are so you cannot be obedient to Him.

And do you know your sin? What makes you so much better than anyone else? Either you are better thant he rest of us, or you also do not know your sin. In this case... we are all screwed, aren't we? Because we have to confess our sin (the ones you just said we don't know) to get on to Heaven...

 

[shad]

I was a member of AOG too and I know they are very patriotic. It is so sad. It is unbiblical according to Jesus. You are twisting around the Bible.

Is it now? To what extent? There is nothing wrong with loving your country, so long as it doesn't surpass the love for God.

Your obedience for your country surpasses your obedience to Jesus.

Who are you to tell me what my church is or isn't saying? Maybe you should stop cherry picking yourself. Just because you have had a bad experience with a church doesn't mean we all do.

You disobey Jesus' commandment by approving the military.

You know what I can say for sure? You sure do not know anyone who attends my church, so shad... maybe you should stop accusing me and others, for that matter.

One thing is for sure, you disobey Jesus commandment of "love your enemy"

So will you. Luckily, God is pretty understanding of people who cannot fathom how complex and awesome He is, so don't worry shad, you ought to be fine.

God and Jesus' identity are not complex. You guys are making it complex.

They dont know what kind of sin they are committing. You don't know killing your enemy is sin against Jesus because Jesus says to love your enemy.
Shoot, I killed someone?

You are helping to kill your enemy. You are sharing their guilt.

And do you know your sin? What makes you so much better than anyone else? Either you are better thant he rest of us, or you also do not know your sin. In this case... we are all screwed, aren't we? Because we have to confess our sin (the ones you just said we don't know) to get on to Heaven...

Your sins are obvious. I am only spreading my convictions.

 

[Pard]

Maybe you should focus on the giant stick in your eye and stop focusing on the pebble in everyone else's eye...

I'm not going to continue this with you. I have watched you "debate" people before. You choose to attack them, and not the topic at hand. You nit-pick and you gave ridiculous rebuttles which have nothing to do with the topic at hand. You only ever win your "debates" because you continue to say the same thing, over and over and people simple have better things to do than entertain you.

You speak as if you have met me, and you have never met me, nor do I imagine you ever will. Unless you actually know someone you really need to keep quiet about things you have no clue about.

I will be the adult here and step back, because as I said before, you choose to be the child in this situation, as I have seen.

 

[shad]

I'm not going to continue this with you.

I agree, you will not take heed of Jesus' word.

take care.

 

[jasoncran]

I'm not going to continue this with you.

I agree, you will not take heed of Jesus' word.

take care.

shad this was uncalled for. :mad

therefore i will lock this thread and a warning may follow.