Trinitarians - answer this

[John the Baptist]

Alot of this false unitarium teachings come from not using the ORIGINAL greek language for the translations. Here is John 1:1 in the original written language

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/ ... 478.html#1

Jesus was God , not a created son of god

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Off cuff!
I have a real past close friend that has gone astray. This subject is vital to salvation, regardless of if it be myself or another one creating another.. 'Doctrine of Christ's' Eternal Gospel, with Christ being just a created being. 2 John 1:6-11

And John himself has 'penned' much on this Doctrine! And he concludes it with "He that biddeth him God speed [is a partaker of his evil deeds.]" Which means that they themselves who do so, are separated from Christ!

Can either return? Surely, but I find that instead of doing so, they go from bad to worse! (like the one 'thread' started in bible study, on the day star) The subject becomes their theme of doctrines. It seems to be about all that my old friend wants to talk about. So, I have separated myself from him & his hobby horse 'creation'. (see Genesis 4:7's K.J. verse)

One needs to remember that it was Christ who said:
"For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders to seduce, if it were possible, [even the elect]." And I hardly think that a 'created' Christ would seduce the very elect!

--John

 

[jgredline]

Alot of this false unitarium teachings come from not using the ORIGINAL greek language for the translations. Here is John 1:1 in the original written language

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/ ... 478.html#1

Jesus was God , not a created son of god

*******
Off cuff!
I have a real past close friend that has gone astray. This subject is vital to salvation, regardless of if it be myself or another one creating another.. 'Doctrine of Christ's' Eternal Gospel, with Christ being just a created being. 2 John 1:6-11

And John himself has 'penned' much on this Doctrine! And he concludes it with "He that biddeth him God speed [is a partaker of his evil deeds.]" Which means that they themselves who do so, are separated from Christ!

Can either return? Surely, but I find that instead of doing so, they go from bad to worse! (like the one 'thread' started in bible study, on the day star) The subject becomes their theme of doctrines. It seems to be about all that my old friend wants to talk about. So, I have separated myself from him & his hobby horse 'creation'. (see Genesis 4:7's K.J. verse)

One needs to remember that it was Christ who said:
"For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders to seduce, if it were possible, [even the elect]." And I hardly think that a 'created' Christ would seduce the very elect!

--John

John
This is very much a Salvation issue. That is why I am so adament in defending the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If Jesus was a created being then the cross would mean nothing because he would neot be on the same level as God the Father. His death would be no more than the death of a Created Bull or a Created Lamb. There are about 5 or 6 false teachers on this board maybe more that have been placed here by the evil one to turn people away from the true Gospel of Jesus Christ who is a part of the triune God head.
The original greek clearly says it the way it is. Jesus is the Logos. He is the Word, he is God who came in the Flesh. The created Jesus that many people of this forum speak of is not the Jesus of the Gospels. It is another Jesus. Don't let them fool you. The scripture you quoted explains it well.
God Bless you and may the Spirit Of God indewell you and give you understanding.

 

[John the Baptist]

Alot of this false unitarium teachings come from not using the ORIGINAL greek language for the translations. Here is John 1:1 in the original written language

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/ ... 478.html#1

Jesus was God , not a created son of god

*******
Off cuff!
I have a real past close friend that has gone astray. This subject is vital to salvation, regardless of if it be myself or another one creating another.. 'Doctrine of Christ's' Eternal Gospel, with Christ being just a created being. 2 John 1:6-11

And John himself has 'penned' much on this Doctrine! And he concludes it with "He that biddeth him God speed [is a partaker of his evil deeds.]" Which means that they themselves who do so, are separated from Christ!

Can either return? Surely, but I find that instead of doing so, they go from bad to worse! (like the one 'thread' started in bible study, on the day star) The subject becomes their theme of doctrines. It seems to be about all that my old friend wants to talk about. So, I have separated myself from him & his hobby horse 'creation'. (see Genesis 4:7's K.J. verse)

One needs to remember that it was Christ who said:
"For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders to seduce, if it were possible, [even the elect]." And I hardly think that a 'created' Christ would seduce the very elect!

--John

John
This is very much a Salvation issue. That is why I am so adament in defending the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If Jesus was a created being then the cross would mean nothing because he would neot be on the same level as God the Father. His death would be no more than the death of a Created Bull or a Created Lamb. There are about 5 or 6 false teachers on this board maybe more that have been placed here by the evil one to turn people away from the true Gospel of Jesus Christ who is a part of the triune God head.
The original greek clearly says it the way it is. Jesus is the Logos. He is the Word, he is God who came in the Flesh. The created Jesus that many people of this forum speak of is not the Jesus of the Gospels. It is another Jesus. Don't let them fool you. The scripture you quoted explains it well.
God Bless you and may the Spirit Of God indewell you and give you understanding.

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Hi, John here:
The Word of God in the K.J. is all the hermeneutics any sincere longing person needs, to find all Truth with! And [your post] does have this Doctrine of Christ understood correctly. 2 John 1:6-11

Only satan desires to have Christ a created being. It does not take 'much reasoning together' as God asks of us, to know that if a created being could have died for the sins of the world, then the Godhead would have taken another way out from their Grief which cost them the most that heaven could pay!
Which was Their REQUIRED PLAN and its cost for the salvation of man. Such as any created angel, or even a special created one that could feel no pain etc.

These birds here best re/read Hebrews 6:6.. if there is any hope for them??

 

[jgredline]

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/ ... 478.html#1[/url]

Jesus was God , not a created son of god

*******
Off cuff!
I have a real past close friend that has gone astray. This subject is vital to salvation, regardless of if it be myself or another one creating another.. 'Doctrine of Christ's' Eternal Gospel, with Christ being just a created being. 2 John 1:6-11

And John himself has 'penned' much on this Doctrine! And he concludes it with "He that biddeth him God speed [is a partaker of his evil deeds.]" Which means that they themselves who do so, are separated from Christ!

Can either return? Surely, but I find that instead of doing so, they go from bad to worse! (like the one 'thread' started in bible study, on the day star) The subject becomes their theme of doctrines. It seems to be about all that my old friend wants to talk about. So, I have separated myself from him & his hobby horse 'creation'. (see Genesis 4:7's K.J. verse)

One needs to remember that it was Christ who said:
"For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders to seduce, if it were possible, [even the elect]." And I hardly think that a 'created' Christ would seduce the very elect!

--John

John
This is very much a Salvation issue. That is why I am so adament in defending the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If Jesus was a created being then the cross would mean nothing because he would neot be on the same level as God the Father. His death would be no more than the death of a Created Bull or a Created Lamb. There are about 5 or 6 false teachers on this board maybe more that have been placed here by the evil one to turn people away from the true Gospel of Jesus Christ who is a part of the triune God head.
The original greek clearly says it the way it is. Jesus is the Logos. He is the Word, he is God who came in the Flesh. The created Jesus that many people of this forum speak of is not the Jesus of the Gospels. It is another Jesus. Don't let them fool you. The scripture you quoted explains it well.
God Bless you and may the Spirit Of God indewell you and give you understanding.

*****
Hi, John here:
The Word of God in the K.J. is all the hermeneutics any sincere longing person needs, to find all Truth with! And [your post] does have this Doctrine of Christ understood correctly. 2 John 1:6-11

Only satan desires to have Christ a created being. It does not take 'much reasoning together' as God asks of us, to know that if a created being could have died for the sins of the world, then the Godhead would have taken another way out from their Grief which cost them the most that heaven could pay!
Which was Their REQUIRED PLAN and its cost for the salvation of man. Such as any created angel, or even a special created one that could feel no pain etc.

These birds here best re/read Hebrews 6:6.. if there is any hope for them?? [/quote:6be63]


John
Your words are very encouraging. Thank you and blessing and may Gods favor fall upon you.
JG