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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
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Unrepentant sin
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elijah23
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Nobody dies.
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elijah23
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Repentance means the Lord brings to yoru attention a sin that you are committing, and you stop committing that sin with the intention of never committing that sin again.
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elijah23
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It there more than one way to look at repentance?
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elijah23
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Don’t we all pass on to the resurrection?
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elijah23
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I try not to.
Live is very beautiful when you succeed in resisting temptation.
Life is very ugly when you don’t.
If we have been born again, we have passed from death unto life. Sins we commit after we're saved do not take away our salvation. They do affect our fellowship and walk. Repentance takes place at salvation. Confessing our sins relates to fellowship with God.
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elijah23
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You go to the Pit for a while when you fail to resist temptation.
faithtransforms
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I know this is a pretty unpopular opinion, but all the sins of all humanity, of all who've ever been born and all who will ever be born, were placed on Jesus at the Cross. Every sin you have ever committed or ever WILL commit in the future has already been paid for. The reason 1 John 1:9 says that God is faithful and JUST to forgive our sins when we confess them is that He would be UNJUST if He held something against us that has already been paid for!!! He is NOT keeping score!!! If you die immediately after sinning, you are still forgiven, period. And I know it is popularly taught that God is faithful and just to forgive us when we REPENT of sin, but that is totally unscriptural. The Word says He is faithful and just to forgive us when we CONFESS our sin, big difference. Repentence means you have made the 180-degree turn from that sin and it is out of your life entirely. But it doesn't always work that way. Take for instance you're addicted to porn. You are doing your best but still give in 3 or 4 times a week. EVERY TIME you give in, no matter how often you do and how long you struggle with it, you are forgiven THE MOMENT you confess it to God. That's what the scripture says, I didn't write it. That doesn't mean you can go ahead and live in sin just b/c all your sins are forgiven past, present and future. On the contrary, in Romans Paul says "How can we who DIED to sin live any longer in it?" We must understand the GRACE of God to be freed from sin. Most people think you have to bawl and squal and beg for forgiveness and feel bad about it for X amount of days in order to get right with God. It's simply untrue and totally contrary to scripture. You were made righteous the moment you were born again and that is your positional standing, it is NOT conditional. Yes, conviction and godly sorrow are very appropriate, but condemnation is NOT. We have passed from death unto life and will NOT see condemnation ever again (John 5:24). Conviction will draw you closer to God, whereas condemnation makes you want to hide from God. That is how you know the difference. If you are feeling condemned, cast those imaginations out IMMEDIATELY. Its actually an insult to the Cross of our Lord to allow satan to keep you in condemnation when the Word declares we are FREE from it and that there is NO CONDEMNATION IN CHRIST JESUS. The 2nd part of that verse (Romans 8:1) which says there is no condemnation "to those who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit" is not even part of the original text. It was added by translators, as anyone who uses the KJV or NKJV will see b/c it is italicized. There's no condemnation in Christ PERIOD. Everyone quotes Romans 6:14 that sin no longer has dominion over us, but they fail to quote the rest of the verse which tells us why. The reason sin has no more dominion over us is b/c we are not under LAW but under GRACE!! Understanding the super-abundance of God's Grace that has abounded toward us in Christ Jesus does NOT encourage us to sin!! Paul said it was the LAW that aroused the desire for sin!!! Not b/c it was unholy but b/c it was weak through the flesh. But Grace is NOT!! Truly understanding and RECEIVING the gift of GRACE that God has so freely bestowed upon us will so overwhelm our hearts with His exceedingly great love for us that sin begins to lose it's power entirely!! Don't blame me...THAT'S WHAT THE BOOK SAYS!!!!
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Alabaster
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NO ONE goes to the Pit for A WHILE. That is a Universalist belief that the sinner suffers for a while in the Lake of Fire and is eventually let out to be with the righteous in the Kingdom.
Let me say this: NEVER is sin allowed in the Kingdom, and especially after it has been dealt with once and for all.
The Lake of Fire is not a refining fire as you most likely believe. It is a fire of punishment and eternal torment.
Revelation 14:11 NLT
The smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever, and they will have no relief day or night, for they have worshiped the beast and his statue and have accepted the mark of his name.
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faithtransforms
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hmm....
you are interesting
I don't feel this way, but I see where you're coming from
thanks bud
thx bud, i do at least TRY to be interesting lol : ) when you say you don't feel the same way, may i ask why? are there certain scriptures that u feel contradict it? i don't ask to debate, i'm just soooo passionate about this subject b/c so many of God's precious children, for whose righteousness He paid the price of His ONLY SON, are living under horrible bondage to condemnation not knowing that it is GRACE that sets us free from sin. condemning ourselves for our sins all day long will NOT lead us to repentence. romans 1 clearly states that it is God's GOODNESS that leads us to repentence, nothing else!! i felt like a piece of dirt for YEARS over my sin and never even got CLOSE to repentence!! it wasn't until i started understanding God's incredible mercy & grace toward me that i got any victory at all!!!
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elijah23
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When I commit a sin, the Lord disciplines me, for my own good. When he is finished disciplining me, he forgives me. When I am being disciplined, I say I am in the “Pit.”
faithtransforms
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EXACTLY!3
awww alabaster, you're so good to me!! so much applause lately!! : ) just kidding, lol, i'm just glad someone agrees with my understanding on this b/c i'm so SICK of God's children living in condemnation when He gave us HIS ONLY SON JESUS CHRIST, who was MARRED MORE THAN ANY MAN, BEATEN to the point that He did not even look HUMAN, for the precise purpose of keeping us OUT of condemnation and fear, and to purchase the righteousness that gives us the incredible privilege of having an intimate, loving relationship with our Heavenly Father. i struggled with this for years, thinking i was going to end up in hell just b/c i had a problem with cigarettes!! as if the Blood of Jesus Christ was inadequate to save me!! it CRUSHES me that so many of God's people are living with the same thing. i used to think Grace preaching was going to encourage people to sin too, until the Holy Spirit hit me upside the head with the 2nd part of Romans 6:14. i'd read it a thousand times and never even realized what it was saying. LEGALISM is what keeps us in bondage to sin, GRACE is what makes us free!! Hallelujah!!! Praise His Holy Name!! Words cannot even begin to EXPRESS the unsearchable riches of His Goodness!! How Great Is Our God!!!
faithtransforms
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no honey, i'm not a universalist at all!!! i loathe the thought!! what makes you say that? all of humanity's sins have been paid for, but if we don't accept and receive the Gift of Grace that was purchased for us through Jesus Christ, we're headed for everlasting destruction!! i'm just saying that once you are saved, you don't have to beat yourself up over every little sin you commit as if God somehow loves you or forgives you any less!! EVERYONE should experience godly sorrow over sin, but that's entirely DIFFERENT from condemnation!! anyone who is truly born again desires to live upright before God, but it's His GRACE that gives us the power to do that!! nothing else!!!
