jgredline said:
15:27 God has decreed that all things shall be put under the feet of the Lord Jesus. Of course, in putting all things under Him, God necessarily excepted Himself. Verse 27 is rather hard to follow because it is not clear to whom each pronoun is referring. I might paraphrase it as follows: “For God has put all things under Christ’s feet. But when God says, all things are put under Christ, it is obvious that God is excluded, who put all things under Christ.†With the exception of God, all things are under the feet of Jesus Christ. Soon, He will take control of that which is twice Hisâ€â€that which was given to Him by the Father and that which was purchased by His own blood on Calvary. This is a quick answer. I will check in my greek bible and see what it tells me.
OK - thanks. This is what I don't understand about the way you have reasoned this. If God is excluded, who has put everything under Christ's feet and if Christ is God (by the estimation of some) how is this possible? The way I see it, either Paul did not understand the true nature and relationship between Jesus and his father (who is God) or this mysterious trinity theory which everyone seems to have difficulty explaining, is false.
I'm going to add something here though for your understanding of my position. I've known the Lord for a number of years. From the point of being born again, I attended a variety of fellowships, churches and Christian organisations. Each of them, as I recall, had belief in the trinity and because as a young Christian I accepted what I was ‘spoon fed’ I ate it because it was given to me by those who I believed, knew the truth. They were ‘christians’ after all.
As time went by I held various positions of ‘servanthood’ in these groups. At a particular time through various circumstances I was challenged by the Lord in terms what it meant to ‘know’ Him and as a result God placed within me what I can only describe as a ‘passion for truth.’ I experienced soon afterwards the beginning of the shaking of the foundation of everything I stood on. Everything had to be demolished until only the cornerstone which is Christ remained. And now I know that there is nothing that I am, nothing I can do, nothing I can be without Him, who is my righteousness. When man understands that there is no rightousness apart from the righteousness afforded him by God, which comes by the gift of faith in His only begotten son, then he will know that his salvation does not hinge on ‘correct’ adherence to a doctrine.
Now you may believe and say that acceptance of this trinity is a pre-requisite to salvation. Fair enough – go for it. But while those who make this claim, who, standing on their own self-righteousness say that none may go in (to the kingdom of God) unless they believe it – many are entering the kingdom ahead of them. And why do these also persecute those who have already entered the kingdom of God by saying they have no part in it unless they accept a creed, thereby denying the righteousness they have in Christ. Because they are in effect persecuting Christ WHO IS our righteousness.
